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AIBU to think King Charles comes across as a really crap dad?

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mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:00

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

I mean really, this is just pathetic. No one is believing that KC couldn’t find a spare bed for his son. AIBU to think that as the parent KC needs to get a grip and grow up instead of just fuelling the drama?

Headshot of Prince Harry in a blue suit, white shirt, and dark green tie looking off-camera in a room with several men in suits out of focus in the background,

Buckingham Palace says Prince Harry will not stay at palace

Royal sources say the Duke of Sussex had not responded to the offer of accommodation at a Royal residence by the deadline last week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77yykl87yno

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DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 18:29

HarryKaneHarryKane · 06/07/2026 17:38

I don’t generally take much notice of the RF.
So, can any one explain to me why Harry needs/must have such a high level of security? I gather the Prince and Princess of Wales move around the country and we don’t know about it til after, likewise any other celeb or famous person… Soooo, why is Harry different?
Is it a genuine threat? Have they got an inflated idea of their own importance?
Who is the perceived security risk about - him, MM, the children?

I seriously don’t understand it?

If he just came here quietly, would anyone actually
notice, or even care?
Other folk manage to move around unseen, why not him? 🤷‍♀️

Harry does not need a high level of security- he just wants it.
He has the insane idea that Meghan will die the same way his mother did.
The paparazzi don’t exsist in the same way anymore and if Meghan doesn’t get in a car driven by a drunk & not put her seatbelt on she will be fine,

Harry &Meghan had full time MET armed police protection when they were working royals who lived here.
When they left the Royal family, their home and the UK they lost the right to that level of security.
We have reciprocal agreements with other countries that when a high ranking royal or the prime minister visit there they take their own police security with them to guard them. So when the king did his state visit to America he took his own teams with him.They are armed and protect him. Theyhave access to intelligence. And it works the other way -when Macron, or The King of Jordan or POTUS come here they bring their own armed security to protect their ‘principles’ while they are here for a short time.
So when Harry & Meghan left they knew they would not retain their PPO as there is no mechanism where we can have British Police officers , armed and protecting someone who LIVES in a different country. It wouldn’t be safe for the PPO and we cannot risk our police. It wouldn’t also be prohibitively expensive to have 4 teams of several police officers living in the USA, flying back etc. It simply cannot be done -our police officers cannot be full time police in the USA.
If Barak Obama decided he wanted to live here he would have to let go of his Secret Service detail as they would not be allowed to live here &go all over the place carrying guns.
The current arrangement is that Harry needs to give 28days notice and a review will be done of his current level of danger (have MI5/6 received any credible threats etc) to decide what level of security he needs. If he stayed at a royal residence -ie Buckingham palace - he would whilst there be protected in the same way the monarch is while there. The palace (like Windsor) has the armed military guarding it 168 hrs per week 52 weeks of the year.
Harry wants an automatic team of Met police on hand to take him round the uk wherever he wants to go guarding him. That’s not feasible though. We don’t have loads of ‘spare’ armed police hanging round waiting for Harry. He is asked to give 28days notice so they can check his current threat level. IF the threat level is deemed high he will get a team - leave would be cancelled, overtime offered,shifts altered -hence the need for 28days notice. But the Home Office (who decide who does and does not receive automatic protection) do not deem Harry at risk atm -and frankly this should pkease him. The Home office and RAVEC hardly want to have somone killed do they? So of course if it were deemed necessary Harry et al would get protection.
But that’s not good enough for Harry. He WANTS it because William has it and Harrystill thinks he is veryvery important.
IF he was truly simply bothered about being safe he wouldn’t announce his plans days or weeks in advance. He would arrive without fanfare, stay at BP -his children could use the pool and gardens as safe as houses - andgowhere he wanted to without any bother. He could bring his own team of security -unarmed - to protect him just like every other celebrity.
Lewis Hamilton -who has received awful threats - just has security. As does Tom Cruise. Prince Edward gets the tube around London -without security!! As do his children! Beatrice & Eugenie are often seen round Kensington shopping &lunching. No security.
Harry is I believe getting low on funds. His security costs an estimated $3 million a year. He wants to be declared a PPI so he gets automatic armed security provided by the country he is in -however this status is reserved for heads of state,prime ministers, presidents, foreign secretaries and the highest level diplomats (like ambassador to the United States)while theyare in that position -so once Starmer resigns he will no longer hve that status, the next PM will.
Harrywants this as itwill save him millions -but he will never get it as he isn’t important enough and no matter how much he shouts that he is andthe sausage squad tell me on twitter how important Harry & Meghan are it’s not going to happen.

That was longer that I thought it would be when i decided to reply.
Anyway, hope that explains it. 😀

LaMarschallin · 06/07/2026 18:29

icingonmycupcake · 06/07/2026 18:13

Charles is a coddled man-baby. They don't usually make great parents.

That doesn't bode well for Archie and Lili then.

KittyHigham · 06/07/2026 18:30

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:18

What does he gain from such a stunt?

Reactions like yours! But on a global scale 🙄

Poor Harry, wicked king Charles etc. etc. It keeps his name in the headlines. Just look at the number of briefings from his team and the disclosure that there is a WhatsApp group for selected journalists to get specific information passed their way.

This keeps Harry linked to being royal which he needs as he has nothing else to offer.

OhBotherSaidPoo · 06/07/2026 18:30

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:24

Racism is structural and pervasive. I’m not about to give you a human geography and cultural history essay. Go and educate yourself

PH: Hello Daddy, I'm coming to London on 7 July, wouldn't it be nice to see you.
KC: Yes, would you like to stay at Bucks Palace. If so, please let us know by X Date so the staffing arrangements can be done.
PH: No, won't be necessary thank you. Still good to see you, shall bring the kids.

Sometime later:
PH releases a press release stating he will be staying at Bucks Palace after all.
And Bucks Palace staff furiously search their emails wondering who the fuck hasn't forwarded on a very important email only to find that no such email existed.

No racism needed, just PH being PH.

HumberSquid · 06/07/2026 18:31

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 18:08

But a room was possible to make available to harry. The King surely would not have offered if it was never possible to make good on that offer. The arrangements - however extensive they were, should have been made assuming it was a “yes” from Harry from the point the offer was made. Even if he then turned it down. The Palace should have prepared for the visit they offered. And as they knew harry was over for the court case, they knew the dates, this isn’t something they couldn’t do, it’s something they didn’t do.

Come on, that's ridiculous and you must know it.

You're saying the King should have organised security staff, cleaners, caterers, drivers, furniture movers etc, all of whom will need to be paid and rostered, for a visit which might not even happen? You're saying a 41 year old man is incapable of making basic plans for a trip he knew he was making months ago? Harry is basically unemployed. Why on earth could he not respond to an invitation on time?

And you must also know that it's a little bit more than 'making a room available'. As has been explained many times already, Harry would be travelling with an entourage, who would have to get security clearance before being allowed to stay in the official residence of the King.

Harry's a grown man which children of his own. Long past time for being coddled and indulged.

If he'd stayed in Clarence House with his father then his security detail could have stayed somewhere else and picked him up in the mornings. Im pretty sure Clarence House has a) plenty of bedrooms b)adequate security.

sandalbed · 06/07/2026 18:31

OhBotherSaidPoo · 06/07/2026 18:30

PH: Hello Daddy, I'm coming to London on 7 July, wouldn't it be nice to see you.
KC: Yes, would you like to stay at Bucks Palace. If so, please let us know by X Date so the staffing arrangements can be done.
PH: No, won't be necessary thank you. Still good to see you, shall bring the kids.

Sometime later:
PH releases a press release stating he will be staying at Bucks Palace after all.
And Bucks Palace staff furiously search their emails wondering who the fuck hasn't forwarded on a very important email only to find that no such email existed.

No racism needed, just PH being PH.

Edited

I think it’s unlikely they ever actually talked to each other, the staff would have done it.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 18:32

HumberSquid · 06/07/2026 18:31

If he'd stayed in Clarence House with his father then his security detail could have stayed somewhere else and picked him up in the mornings. Im pretty sure Clarence House has a) plenty of bedrooms b)adequate security.

But that wasn't the offer. BP was. Harry refused to respond to the invite in due time. That's on him.

HarryKaneHarryKane · 06/07/2026 18:33

DaisyDooley · 06/07/2026 18:29

Harry does not need a high level of security- he just wants it.
He has the insane idea that Meghan will die the same way his mother did.
The paparazzi don’t exsist in the same way anymore and if Meghan doesn’t get in a car driven by a drunk & not put her seatbelt on she will be fine,

Harry &Meghan had full time MET armed police protection when they were working royals who lived here.
When they left the Royal family, their home and the UK they lost the right to that level of security.
We have reciprocal agreements with other countries that when a high ranking royal or the prime minister visit there they take their own police security with them to guard them. So when the king did his state visit to America he took his own teams with him.They are armed and protect him. Theyhave access to intelligence. And it works the other way -when Macron, or The King of Jordan or POTUS come here they bring their own armed security to protect their ‘principles’ while they are here for a short time.
So when Harry & Meghan left they knew they would not retain their PPO as there is no mechanism where we can have British Police officers , armed and protecting someone who LIVES in a different country. It wouldn’t be safe for the PPO and we cannot risk our police. It wouldn’t also be prohibitively expensive to have 4 teams of several police officers living in the USA, flying back etc. It simply cannot be done -our police officers cannot be full time police in the USA.
If Barak Obama decided he wanted to live here he would have to let go of his Secret Service detail as they would not be allowed to live here &go all over the place carrying guns.
The current arrangement is that Harry needs to give 28days notice and a review will be done of his current level of danger (have MI5/6 received any credible threats etc) to decide what level of security he needs. If he stayed at a royal residence -ie Buckingham palace - he would whilst there be protected in the same way the monarch is while there. The palace (like Windsor) has the armed military guarding it 168 hrs per week 52 weeks of the year.
Harry wants an automatic team of Met police on hand to take him round the uk wherever he wants to go guarding him. That’s not feasible though. We don’t have loads of ‘spare’ armed police hanging round waiting for Harry. He is asked to give 28days notice so they can check his current threat level. IF the threat level is deemed high he will get a team - leave would be cancelled, overtime offered,shifts altered -hence the need for 28days notice. But the Home Office (who decide who does and does not receive automatic protection) do not deem Harry at risk atm -and frankly this should pkease him. The Home office and RAVEC hardly want to have somone killed do they? So of course if it were deemed necessary Harry et al would get protection.
But that’s not good enough for Harry. He WANTS it because William has it and Harrystill thinks he is veryvery important.
IF he was truly simply bothered about being safe he wouldn’t announce his plans days or weeks in advance. He would arrive without fanfare, stay at BP -his children could use the pool and gardens as safe as houses - andgowhere he wanted to without any bother. He could bring his own team of security -unarmed - to protect him just like every other celebrity.
Lewis Hamilton -who has received awful threats - just has security. As does Tom Cruise. Prince Edward gets the tube around London -without security!! As do his children! Beatrice & Eugenie are often seen round Kensington shopping &lunching. No security.
Harry is I believe getting low on funds. His security costs an estimated $3 million a year. He wants to be declared a PPI so he gets automatic armed security provided by the country he is in -however this status is reserved for heads of state,prime ministers, presidents, foreign secretaries and the highest level diplomats (like ambassador to the United States)while theyare in that position -so once Starmer resigns he will no longer hve that status, the next PM will.
Harrywants this as itwill save him millions -but he will never get it as he isn’t important enough and no matter how much he shouts that he is andthe sausage squad tell me on twitter how important Harry & Meghan are it’s not going to happen.

That was longer that I thought it would be when i decided to reply.
Anyway, hope that explains it. 😀

What an excellent reply! Thank you!
Are you a person with insider knowledge..?
Ive learnt so much stuff that I never knew just in your answer😄👍

PropertyD · 06/07/2026 18:33

FenellaFeldman · 06/07/2026 18:08

So desperate that he's not done so since 2022?
Harry has no job, plenty of time and plenty of money. He's also 30 odd years younger and in better health.
Maybe he should have got a plane to take Archie and Lilibet to see Grandpa?

Harry and Megan are grifters and always create drama. Megan in particular is poisonous.

Tableforjoan · 06/07/2026 18:33

It’s like when someone doesn’t rsvp to your party / wedding and then still expected to just rock up and be catered to. There is a date to respond by for a reason. Even for a prince.

Zonder · 06/07/2026 18:35

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:18

What does he gain from such a stunt?

Sympathy. It worked on you.

Passingthrough123 · 06/07/2026 18:35

HumberSquid · 06/07/2026 18:31

If he'd stayed in Clarence House with his father then his security detail could have stayed somewhere else and picked him up in the mornings. Im pretty sure Clarence House has a) plenty of bedrooms b)adequate security.

Why on earth would Harry want to stay under the same roof as Camilla though? He made it very clear in Spare how awful he thinks she is and how she briefed against him in the press to further her own agenda. He described her dangerous and a villain, didn't he?

Advocodo · 06/07/2026 18:37

I think KC was probably a distant father as was his father I feel.

IAmATorturedPoet · 06/07/2026 18:37

I feel some sympathy for Charles, he has had to watch his son behave like a manipulative, angry and entitled person for quite some time now and in full view of the public.
This accommodation drama is just another example of that.

He Is a 41 year old man, it’s really not a good look to be carrying on like this and it can’t be good for his health.

Sereine · 06/07/2026 18:37

eosmum · 06/07/2026 16:20

Well he's a shite dad in general, and nothing would keep me away from my meeting my grandchild, and how many times has he met Harry's two. No matter what I would bend over backwards to make it happen.

Try thinking about it for a minute.

You may not have noticed, but at the age of 77 King Charles has rather a big job which keeps him pretty fully occupied in the UK. Even when he has breaks, he can't just hop on a plane to go and see his grandchildren as it involves massive planning - plus, if he did, history demonstrates that there is no guarantee that Harry won't throw a hissy fit and stop him seeing them. Harry has always been free to bring the famly here, he chooses not to because of his obsession with security.

The Royal Family also has to bear in mind that H&M are storing up each and every interaction they have with the RF with a view to selling a highly embellished and sel-pitying version to the highest bidder.

CoffeeCantata · 06/07/2026 18:37

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 16:16

he is perpetuating the drama though

KC is the most 'undrama-llama-ish' person I can think of.

Do you think he wanted this, or wants it now? He's dying of cancer, he's 77 and he's got a demanding public role.

Harry, with his book, his defamatory interviews, his slanders and libels against this father and his family is the source of the horrible drama which has caused misery to lots of people.

Harry is one over-grown spoiled brat.

AgnesMcDoo · 06/07/2026 18:37

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:18

What does he gain from such a stunt?

Threads like this making out that Charles is the bad guy

Sympathy from folk like you

Publicity

Sales and profits

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 06/07/2026 18:38

They could maybe have offered Andy’s old gaff at Windsor!

Weeellokthen · 06/07/2026 18:38

Nah, Harry is just a spoiled wee man boy 🙄

Owl55 · 06/07/2026 18:38

The late Queen gave Frogmore Cottege to Harry and Meghan as a wedding present , why is he not allowed to stay there if he’s the legal owner? Plus security is tight on the Windsor estate .

Newname26 · 06/07/2026 18:39

LividSun · 06/07/2026 16:37

He's not a good dad.

I read Harry's book. Nobody so much as hugged him the day his mother died. Fuck the stiff upper lip. Awful.

Do you honestly believe that? I think that poor me, sob story.

Keeping in mind both Grandparents were at Balmoral, his Dad was there too, Princess Ann was probably there too (Peter and Zara were both at Balmoral) plus whatever staff were there.

It reported that Charles woke William first and together they woke Harry.
I don't buy that nobody hugged the boys.

sandalbed · 06/07/2026 18:39

I feel some sympathy for Charles, he has had to watch his son behave like a manipulative, angry and entitled person for quite some time now and in full view of the public.

But the above behaviour wouldn’t be new, it’s all very Royal. Andrews situation & behaviour would have prepped hime somewhat, no?

HelenaWilson · 06/07/2026 18:40

If he'd stayed in Clarence House with his father....

Except that his father isn't currently at Clarence House. He's in Scotland. Which Harry would know if he troubled to enquire. And when the King and Queen aren't there, staff possibly aren't there either, or any necessary work is done, so it might not be available to visitors.

IcedPurple · 06/07/2026 18:41

Owl55 · 06/07/2026 18:38

The late Queen gave Frogmore Cottege to Harry and Meghan as a wedding present , why is he not allowed to stay there if he’s the legal owner? Plus security is tight on the Windsor estate .

Harry was granted a short term lease of Frogmore, not ownership so he is not the legal owner.

He and his wife chose to move abroad after less than a year living there, so when the lease expired it was not renewed.

jeffgoldblum · 06/07/2026 18:41

mintleavesandthyme · 06/07/2026 18:16

I think there’s a lot of racism in this too.

Harry is white!

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