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Update: I told my family about my relationship with my sister's ex

367 replies

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

AIBU to pursue a future with my sister's ex-husband? | Mumsnet

I have gone back and forth about posting this because I know people will have strong opinions, but I genuinely don't know whether I've completely lost...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

OP posts:
Zanatdy · Yesterday 13:51

Glad you’ve got it out in the open OP. In hindsight telling her earlier would have been better, but you can’t go back. Hopefully it doesn’t affect your relationship with your sister.

Devilsmommy · Yesterday 13:54

I read your first thread but didn't comment. I'm glad it's worked out for you ☺️

laurini · Yesterday 13:58

You've done the right thing and it must have been really difficult. Well done and, honestly, good luck to you.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · Yesterday 13:59

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should

This is all you need to focus on.

I hope you both continue to be happy! ❤️

Silverbirchleaf · Yesterday 14:01

Difficult discussion to have but well done on the honesty. Now it’s out in the open, things Coukd be a little rocky with everyone coming to terms with it, but you did the right thing.

DameOfThrones · Yesterday 14:01

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update.

Oh

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 14:01

The story that changed so much we almost got whiplash …

TheClocksFast · Yesterday 14:03

Good luck. I hope it all works out for you both 😃

Notquitetheplan · Yesterday 14:06

Good for you. Life is messy, we roll with it.
Hope it all works out x

MissFancyDay · Yesterday 14:07

Good luck Op, life can be complicated and messy. Yes you should have told her earlier but you all have to move on now being sensitive to each others feelings. I hope it works out.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 14:10

It’s 7 years since the divorce - when I first saw this thread, I thought 7 months! Yes, it’s ok and it’s out in the open now.

TheBrunswick · Yesterday 14:11

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 14:01

The story that changed so much we almost got whiplash …

Nasty.

basiically · Yesterday 14:12

TheBrunswick · Yesterday 14:11

Nasty.

But true.

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 14:13

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 14:10

It’s 7 years since the divorce - when I first saw this thread, I thought 7 months! Yes, it’s ok and it’s out in the open now.

It’s 7 years ?

OP posts:
TheThirteenthFairy · Yesterday 14:15

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Nearly50omg · Yesterday 14:20

I don’t understand why your sister and parents are so upset personally 🤷‍♀️ it’s been over 7 years since the divorce so how long is it since they separated? 8-9? Your sister is married and happy and expecting a baby and the normal reaction would be initially shock but then acceptance and wanting her sister to also have all the things she does! As a sister that’s what I would want for my sister

your parents weren’t married to the bloke so
why would they be so upset and dramatic over it too?

letshavetea · Yesterday 14:22

I’m pleased it’s worked out for you. You’ve done nothing wrong in my opinion. It was seven years fgs!! Your sister doesn’t want home! I hope you’ll be very happy.
Re the children you might both want, you’re only 36, even if you wait a year (and why should you just because of what people might think) you’ve got a reasonable chance.
Re Christmas - I can see that you’d possibly take things slowly this year, but in future invite everyone to you and put a marker in the sand of it being the new perfectly normal (and regain some control for yourself).
i hope you’ll keep us updated.

letshavetea · Yesterday 14:22

Him

blenny23 · Yesterday 14:28

Plumzingy1 · Yesterday 13:48

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5550068-aibu-to-pursue-a-future-with-my-sisters-ex-husband

I honestly didn't expect my last thread to get as much attention as it did. I deleted the account but then thought to update. I read most of the responses, even the ones telling me I was an awful sister and those saying they'd never speak to me again if I were their sibling. Equally, I read the replies from people who thought life isn't always black and white and that happiness is complicated.
A lot of people said I needed to stop worrying about hypothetical reactions and actually tell my family. Quite a few also said that if I genuinely saw a future with him then keeping him hidden indefinitely wasn't fair on anyone, including him.
Well, I've done it.

I spoke to my sister, I went to her house and we had a proper conversation. I was absolutely terrified. I barely slept the night before because I had convinced myself this would be the end of our relationship as sisters.

I told her everything. I didn't try to minimise it or soften it. I was honest about the timeline because I knew it would be far worse if she later found out we'd actually been together for over a year after I'd implied it was something much more recent.

She was upset. Really upset and there were some long silences where neither of us knew what to say.The first thing she asked was whether there had been any overlap. I told her absolutely not. Their marriage had been over for 7 years before anything happened between us.She then asked whether I'd secretly had feelings for him while they were married or whether anything had ever happened before. Again, the answer was no. I did not even see him after the divorce when we met again last year by chance at the same event I genuinely thought we'd have a catch-up and that would be that.

She asked why we'd kept it secret for so long. The honest answer is that after we slept together we both assumed it had been a mistake that would go nowhere. After he messages me to see if I'd gotten home safe, we talked and we both agreed we had fun the night before. Then feelings developed, and every month that passed made it feel like a bigger and bigger conversation to have. She said she wished I'd told her sooner.I couldn't really argue with that because she's right.Then she asked me if I was actually happy with him I told her yes.

She was quiet for a while before saying they probably should never have got married because they simply weren't compatible. Looking back, she thinks they stayed together longer than they should have trying to make something work that never really did.She said she wants me to be happy. She isn't happy about the situation, and she's understandably hurt, but she wants me to be happy. She also said she just needs time to get used to it.
After that I spoke to my parents because I wanted them to hear it from me.
A lot of people on my last thread were convinced they'd disown me.
That honestly never crossed my mind. They're my parents. Why would they disown me? They might be disappointed by choices I've made but disappointment isn't the same as cutting your child out of your life forever. I found it quite odd how many people assumed that would be the automatic outcome.Both were shocked. But they also both said they want me to be happy. They know this isn't an ideal situation and they know people will have opinions, but they also know we're two adults who have found ourselves in a relationship.
I'm still invited to Christmas. Before anyone asks, no, I won't be taking him. I think that would be completely inappropriate this year and far too much to expect of everyone else. Maybe in a couple of years things will look different, maybe they won't, but I'm certainly not trying to force everyone into one happy blended family overnight.

One thing I do want to address is the comments about children because there seemed to be a lot of assumptions.

I'm 36. We've only been together just over a year and we're nowhere near the stage of trying for children. If our relationship progresses to marriage and we eventually decide we want to build a family together, I'll probably be around 40. I've already accepted that I may never have biological children and, genuinely, I'm okay with that. Knowing myself, I don't think I'd want to start trying at that point.

People also seemed to think I was being very blasé about adoption. I'm not. I've fostered children and, through that, I've had advice about the adoption process. I know it's lengthy, thorough and far from guaranteed. I only mentioned it because it's something I've always been open to if I wasn't able to have biological children. I'm not assuming it would simply happen.I appreciate people can only comment on what I write, but I can't possibly include every detail of my life, every conversation and every thought process in one Mumsnet post.

Nothing has magically been fixed. My sister isn't suddenly thrilled about this, and I don't expect her to be. There will probably be awkward moments for a long time yet.

I'm also not trying to convince anyone that ours is some once-in-a-lifetime, sacred love story that excuses everything else.What I am saying is much simpler than that.I love him.I'm happy.He makes me very happy.For the first time in my life I can genuinely see a future with someone.

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should. I know plenty of people will disagree with that, and that's their right. Equally, I know some people will never think what we've done is acceptable.

I'm not looking for universal approval because I know I'm never going to get it.
I just wanted to update those who told me to stop hiding and have the difficult conversations.I did.Now we'll see where life takes us.

I had my first child at 39 and have just found out I’m pregnant again (which a much wanted baby) at 42. There’s still time.

moderndilemma · Yesterday 14:34

Well done for being honest. At last.

But don't expect everything to be smooth. Your dsis and family's shocked reaction seems to be 'we only want you to be happy'. But their delayed anger may come into play later, not least at you having deceived them for a year.

tbh, it all reads a bit too happy-ever-after at the moment.

My friend divorced and many years later married her BIL. Very short term it was accepted but the long-term consequence has been a very fractured family. Be prepared for that.

You repeatedly say that their relationship has been over for 7 years. Mine has been over for 30 years. I'd still struggle if my dsis and ex got together.

SwatTheTwit · Yesterday 14:37

Back when they were about 18-20, my ex and his brother went on holidays with their respective girlfriends. At some point there was a falling out, his brother got with my ex’s girlfriend and they remained together the rest of their lives. A very happy marriage, even.

Sometimes it happens.

suburberphobe · Yesterday 14:49

Life is too fucking short to walk away from someone you love simply because other people think you should.

I agree OP. Always follow your heart. You can't live life by other people's opinions.

PantheraTigris · Yesterday 14:50

It must feel great to have this weight lifted off your shoulders, keeping secrets can become quite overwhelming.
I've learned that happiness is sometimes hard to come by, so grab it while you can!
Hope it all works out for you, your partner and your family.

BMW58 · Yesterday 14:52

Thanks for the update - and the best of luck to all concerned.

I expect you feel immense relief now its all.out in the open.

Boreded · Yesterday 14:55

I’m pleased for you. I thought it would all work itself out.

at the end of the day it isn’t great is it…but there was a good time gap, and it’s a real relationship not like a few shags. Nobody would begrudge their sister a relationship with a man that she cares about, and especially at 36 when you are at an age where you know who you are and what you want.

Good on your sister though, I’m sure it will be weird at times, but it’ll all work out in the end: