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Pubs open til 5am, children encouraged to miss school by the England manager.

541 replies

canthavetoomanylights · 02/07/2026 21:35

Surely this is going too far. I wouldn’t agree with it if it was the final.

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DimwittedSkater · 02/07/2026 22:58

Kids should go to bed at 9 and get up at 5 to watch the match, if parents can record it. That way, they get eight hours in bed and still get to watch the match. Sorted!

NeverLookInTheMirror · 02/07/2026 22:59

It must be so exhausting to live your life constantly down on anything which might possibly cause someone else to have a good time. However do people get through life having to whinge and complain constantly about things they don’t have to do.

You do know they haven’t passed a law making it obligatory yes?

It really is very simple. Don’t go to the pub, and send the kids to school if you’re not interested. Job done. It’s not that hard.

As for the head teacher posturing about doctors notes and banning children from end of year parties and such, he’ll never be able to make that one fly. Banning a genuinely sick child from an end of year party would almost certainly be against the law.

Even in employment law you only require a doctor’s note after 7 days so he has no right to make such claims and has only succeeded in making himself look like the self important twat he clearly is.

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/07/2026 23:01

likelysuspect · 02/07/2026 22:54

The point is if the child is ill, the school seem to say taht they wont accept the parents word. Thats not on and possibly illegal.

You are correct. They cannot demand a doctors note for just one day off. GPs generally do not write doctors notes for kids having time off school as they are intended for employment purposes, not as a way for a school to demand evidence as to why a child did not attend school for one day.
So good luck to the school in getting sick notes from every child who is off “sick” on Monday.

idontknowhowtodreamyourdreams · 02/07/2026 23:01

People, including parents, can make their own decisions on this one! I won’t be up and watching it purely because I don’t wanna feel shite the next day. My kids won’t either, but I don’t really mind what other people do.

I would if it were the final!

Am a bit sad to be missing it but I will cope.

I hope they win, we could do with a bit of joy!

Delphiniumandlupins · 02/07/2026 23:03

musicandmen · 02/07/2026 22:54

When it was Scotland. My 10 year old went to bed, got up for the game and then went back to bed

Also, our pub had normal closing time then reopened for ticket holders only for the Scottish games.

LittleGreenShoots · 02/07/2026 23:03

Thankfully my 9 year old was content to wander in every 20 minutes to ask the score of the last game. He won't be any more interested in Monday morning's game than a cursory 'how did they do?' when he wakes up 😂

PombearsAreLife · 02/07/2026 23:03

Floppyearedlab · 02/07/2026 21:54

At our school we have been told doctors notes will be required for the day after the match for ‘illness’. Any flouting and the child will not be allowed to take part in the end of term party or the organised school trip.

Edited

This is unlawful, and I would be quick to bring this to their attention. It’s maddening that schools think they have the authority to threaten things like this with no legal basis. Even just to have parents ring to ask for a doctors note to be inevitably refused is a waste NHS time and resources.

tillyandmilly · 02/07/2026 23:04

I don’t get the frenzy! It’s football - its not even the final - personally can’t wait until it’s over - now Wimbledon is on far more interesting!

JudgeJ · 02/07/2026 23:05

MandemChickenShop · 02/07/2026 21:49

pubs open until 5am on a Sunday night, Monday morning is wild.

England manager telling kids to watch the match is good fun, it's the end of term, summer hols, one late fun night staying up will create a memory

Exactly, the schools will be running down by now, doing a lot of the fun things they've not been able to schedule. The Mayor of New York told children that he had made a new law when there was a big sporting thing on, there would be no bedtimes.

cluckinell2 · 02/07/2026 23:07

Who cares? Those who want to do it will do it, those who want to go to bed will go to bed. If the kids are tired the next day that’s on the parents. Personally I think this sort of thing makes for good childhood memories. The novelty of being up at that time of night, maybe going to bed then waking up for it etc will be exciting and memorable for kids. Obviously each school will have their own policies. I’ve seen some offering to show the game on replay in schools the next morning although I can’t see that working because at least one kid will know the score and ruin it for everyone.

I can’t get worked up either way to be honest. But I won’t be watching live, and I doubt even my football mad teen will stay up until that time either.

Ionlymakejokestodistractmyself · 02/07/2026 23:07

PermanentlyExhaustedPigeonZZZ · 02/07/2026 22:28

I still don't understand why kids don't watch it at 6.30am before school rather than the middle of the night live.

It would have to be more like 5am, to allow time to get ready, get to school, and the potential of eg extra time and penalties.

whatcanthematterbe81 · 02/07/2026 23:08

I don’t agree nor disagree. I just can’t imagine my kids being able to stay up that long. Thank god 😂

icingonmycupcake · 02/07/2026 23:09

Great!

Unless they lose. Then you've got a load of drunken, pissed off men in pubs ... until 5am. What could go wrong? 😬

itsanamething · 02/07/2026 23:11

About 15 years ago walking my children to school I could hear the roar of a football match and children cheering. The Head Teacher had the England match playing in the hall. All the children loved it.

I remember my own French teacher had Wimbledon playing on the radio decades ago!

whatcanthematterbe81 · 02/07/2026 23:12

JudgeJ · 02/07/2026 23:05

Exactly, the schools will be running down by now, doing a lot of the fun things they've not been able to schedule. The Mayor of New York told children that he had made a new law when there was a big sporting thing on, there would be no bedtimes.

I’m not anti staying up for this, but there’s still two weeks left and at my school, next week is still full on curriculum as normal. Next week is fun fun fun. I don’t care, but just saying, I don’t think the light touch teaching starts until the last week of term (in my schools anyway)

Flyingintotheunknown · 02/07/2026 23:12

There’s no way I’d be allowing my kids to stay up to watch the game, however I wouldn’t judge other parents for allowing their kids to do so. Each to their own as far as I’m concerned.

And I think schools should back off with their Drs note for one day off policy that they are unable to legally implement anyway.

DrCoconut · 02/07/2026 23:14

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 02/07/2026 21:42

Bridget Phillipson has said its for parents to decide if their children watch the match and how to manage that but that they ARE expected to attend school the next day.
Seems reasonable.

After the relentless banging on about attendance and fining people for things like illness and bereavement she is in no position to say that missing school is OK. I think she would have unrest on her hands if she effectively said that football is more important than a family funeral or resting if you are unwell.

Elfbeth · 02/07/2026 23:16

Two very distinct issues. Kids missing one day of school at the end of term because of a World Cup game is no big deal in my opinion and should be at the discretion of parents. These are the type of one off memories that make up childhood.
Pubs staying open is a very different thing and there is no need for it. It encourages binge drinking and all the problems that leads to

whatcanthematterbe81 · 02/07/2026 23:16

DimwittedSkater · 02/07/2026 22:58

Kids should go to bed at 9 and get up at 5 to watch the match, if parents can record it. That way, they get eight hours in bed and still get to watch the match. Sorted!

If it’s not live then what’s the point? Either watch or don’t watch, but watching it hours after everyone else seems pointless

court18 · 02/07/2026 23:16

Are there any kids still doing any work at school as mine seemed to stop weeks ago….

WimbyAce · 02/07/2026 23:17

Not sure whether my daughter is hoping to watch it yet (11) but she has delayed sports day the next day so not really a biggie if she is tired. Other half has been watching matches all hours anyway. I won't be watching (I love my sleep!)

junebirthdaygirl · 02/07/2026 23:17

I am from lreland. I am totally confused. Surely it's the parents business if the kids watch a match or not. I am a teacher but it's not my place to tell the parents what they can do in their own homes. For goodness sake it's one night. I sincerely wish lreland were there and then we could have some mighty fun here.

likelysuspect · 02/07/2026 23:17

I would keep mine off on purpose even if they hadnt watched the match if they went to that school the poster talks about above re the GP note

I would phone them in sick and watch them squirm when I threaten to take them to court.

DDivaStar · 02/07/2026 23:19

My daughters secondary school is taking roll at 10am, school will be open as usual for those wanting to attend earlier.

They also have impromptu non uniform day and raffle for those that attend.

I think they're desperate for kids to come in !

EdgyUmberCrab · 02/07/2026 23:19

its just football. Honestly the hype around it is bizarre, I just don’t get it.