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AIBU to think a 9-year-old boy can use the ladies with mum?

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aliceyyyy2654 · 02/07/2026 12:47

An AIBU on behalf of a friend who told me this story today.

my friend was out with her two children (DS aged 9 and DD aged 6). She took both with her into the ladies loo in her shopping centre. When she was done and the kids were washing their hands an old lady came up and told her it was unacceptable for a ‘young man’ to be in the women’s toilets as he was not a girl. This kid is 9!!

She was rather upset and embarrassed and hurried out and her son asked her why she was being shouted at.

When she told me this story I told her to ignore it and to continue taking her young children into the women’s with her when their dad isn’t present.

AIBU to think that a 9 year old boy should be able to go into the women’s with his mum as it is much safer than going into the men’s alone?

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TCsApply · 02/07/2026 23:15

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:13

I suppose the question comes, where do you draw the line? I've navigated this with my son and it was never actually a problem. I went to pools with family changing rooms and used those. Shopping centres always had disabled hole in the wall options if I couldn't be sure about the male toilet (which weren't exclusively for disability, they were for anyone, just bigger for accessibility). If there was no choice, I made sure anyone inside was well aware they had an adult right outside who was aware and watching. If family friendly options aren't available, they need to be requested or campaigned for.

Until they’re available parents need to do what they think is best.

I did all the above and thought it wasn’t a problem. Turns out it was.

lotsofadminrubbish · 02/07/2026 23:15

HaveCreditWillShop · 02/07/2026 23:07

You picked the wrong woman to say this to. My male cousin was raped as a child in the toilets at the White Rose Centre. So please do not talk to me about statistics.

Bloody hell white rose in Leeds? That’s is just horrendous 😩😩😩😩 wow that is just terrible.

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:16

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:13

I suppose the question comes, where do you draw the line? I've navigated this with my son and it was never actually a problem. I went to pools with family changing rooms and used those. Shopping centres always had disabled hole in the wall options if I couldn't be sure about the male toilet (which weren't exclusively for disability, they were for anyone, just bigger for accessibility). If there was no choice, I made sure anyone inside was well aware they had an adult right outside who was aware and watching. If family friendly options aren't available, they need to be requested or campaigned for.

I drew the line once my sons hit double figures. 9 is still too young for me.

Well done you for navigating it,
aren’t you clever 👏 .

My 12 year old had a very sketchy encounter at the theatre. Male and female toilets only. He got out of there sharpish.

TCsApply · 02/07/2026 23:17

relaxitsok · 02/07/2026 23:14

I’m so sorry to hear of those whose relatives have experienced sexual assault. I can see why you don’t want to talk about statistics and feel anxious.

It’s not about feeling anxious. It’s about keeping children safe and parents acting on their instincts and carrying out safeguarding as they see fit.

HaveCreditWillShop · 02/07/2026 23:17

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:11

Sorry to hear about this. Sounds awful. 😢

When my son was 12 a male next to him made a very inappropriate comment to my son which I don’t want to type out on here. This was 4 years ago. It made him feel sick.

God poor kid. Hope he’s ok. What the hell is wrong with men? This happened back in the 90’s. They never caught the man that did it.

HaveCreditWillShop · 02/07/2026 23:19

lotsofadminrubbish · 02/07/2026 23:15

Bloody hell white rose in Leeds? That’s is just horrendous 😩😩😩😩 wow that is just terrible.

It was in the 90’s but yes. It’s never left me. I’m worried about outing my cousin so may have to go back and delete post where I mention which shopping centre.

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:19

TCsApply · 02/07/2026 23:15

Until they’re available parents need to do what they think is best.

I did all the above and thought it wasn’t a problem. Turns out it was.

I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not sure parents doing what they think is best should be a free for all though. I mean, if I think it's best my 16 year old son comes in with me, is that okay? There has to be a line drawn somewhere. A 9 year old in a cubicled bathroom doesn't bother me but I don't feel comfortable in unisex bathrooms. There needs to be provision made for families to avoid these kind of situations. There were options for me with sons years ago, so I'm surprised it hasn't just got better.

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:19

HaveCreditWillShop · 02/07/2026 23:17

God poor kid. Hope he’s ok. What the hell is wrong with men? This happened back in the 90’s. They never caught the man that did it.

He’s fine now, but absolutely insists on taking his younger brother in to the toilet whenever possible (his younger brother is 10). I know there has to be a line, but 9 isn’t it. Sorry to hear he didn’t get caught 😢 .

TCsApply · 02/07/2026 23:20

lotsofadminrubbish · 02/07/2026 23:15

Bloody hell white rose in Leeds? That’s is just horrendous 😩😩😩😩 wow that is just terrible.

It happened to my son in a bus station with me stood outside. I’ve no idea where the flashing he experienced happened but one thing I do know, he won’t be alone. I lived in a blissful bubble unaware
for quite some time.

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:20

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:16

I drew the line once my sons hit double figures. 9 is still too young for me.

Well done you for navigating it,
aren’t you clever 👏 .

My 12 year old had a very sketchy encounter at the theatre. Male and female toilets only. He got out of there sharpish.

So your son was equipped to navigate it then?

Newsflash: You dont' have to be in a bathroom to have sketchy encounters. I'm sure this is something all women are aware of and have encountered.

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:20

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:19

I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not sure parents doing what they think is best should be a free for all though. I mean, if I think it's best my 16 year old son comes in with me, is that okay? There has to be a line drawn somewhere. A 9 year old in a cubicled bathroom doesn't bother me but I don't feel comfortable in unisex bathrooms. There needs to be provision made for families to avoid these kind of situations. There were options for me with sons years ago, so I'm surprised it hasn't just got better.

Safeguarding 9 year olds isn’t a free for all.

Literally no one has said it’s okay for 16 year olds?

Unbelievable.

TCsApply · 02/07/2026 23:21

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:19

I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not sure parents doing what they think is best should be a free for all though. I mean, if I think it's best my 16 year old son comes in with me, is that okay? There has to be a line drawn somewhere. A 9 year old in a cubicled bathroom doesn't bother me but I don't feel comfortable in unisex bathrooms. There needs to be provision made for families to avoid these kind of situations. There were options for me with sons years ago, so I'm surprised it hasn't just got better.

Well there isn’t so parents will do what they need to do.

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:23

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:20

So your son was equipped to navigate it then?

Newsflash: You dont' have to be in a bathroom to have sketchy encounters. I'm sure this is something all women are aware of and have encountered.

He was equipped at TWELVE
he wasn’t NINE ???

Newsflash - of COURSE you can have sketchy encounters anywhere, I mean how thick can you be. Seriously.

Zero empathy for children.

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:24

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:20

Safeguarding 9 year olds isn’t a free for all.

Literally no one has said it’s okay for 16 year olds?

Unbelievable.

As has been said, parents need to do what they feel they need to do. So that can be applied to any age.

To be fair, anyone with a parent isn't going to bother me in the bathroom. I'd assume an older child with a parent in the bathroom had some sort of good reason for it (parental anxiety of much older children not being one of them).

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I hope you don't pass your anxiety onto your child.

Discodance1988 · 02/07/2026 23:33

I have 3 sons, my eldest is nearly an adult so he obviously uses the mens bathroom. My other son's are 8 and 2, and let me say this very clearly. My 8 year old will continue to come into the ladies bathroom with me UNTIL I am comfortable he will be safe in the mens bathroom. My son's safety is more of a priority to me than any other woman's feelings.

I am not going to allow my son's to become preyed upon by creepy men just to satisfy another woman's comfort.

I don't care who takes an issue with that.

BurnoutBee · 02/07/2026 23:36

TeaAndMadeiraCake · 02/07/2026 23:29

I hope you don't pass your anxiety onto your child.

What by taking him in to the toilet with me at age 9? Lmao 🤣 don’t be daft. Its called basic care and supervision.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 03/07/2026 07:03

callmeLoretta1 · 02/07/2026 21:33

Yes, disregarding the safeguarding of little girls is hugely telling. And I'd call the police and do everything I could to make sure it wouldn't happen again.

Call the police? What for? What crime is being committed? I'd love to listen to that conversation. Quick, get the police here. A 9;year old boy is using the ladies toilet with his mum and sibling.
What are you expecting the police to do? Or are you just trying to make them laugh?

StillgotmyiPod · 03/07/2026 07:06

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 03/07/2026 07:03

Call the police? What for? What crime is being committed? I'd love to listen to that conversation. Quick, get the police here. A 9;year old boy is using the ladies toilet with his mum and sibling.
What are you expecting the police to do? Or are you just trying to make them laugh?

That poster is extremely misinformed about the law as they have demonstrated multiple times on this thread.

Justonemorething82 · 03/07/2026 07:10

relaxitsok · 02/07/2026 23:14

I’m so sorry to hear of those whose relatives have experienced sexual assault. I can see why you don’t want to talk about statistics and feel anxious.

How incredibly patronising. Again.

Sherararara · 03/07/2026 07:21

Fifthtimelucky · 02/07/2026 23:01

I would expect my 9 year old daughter to wait in the queue for the ladies, as I would do.

It’s different because my 9 year old daughter would not be familiar with seeing penises, and I imagine would be very uncomfortable in a gents loo, surrounded by boys and men with their penises out.

A 9 year boy would be familiar with his own penis, and presumably used to seeing those of other boys (eg in school loos).

As an aside, my father told me that when he was a boy he once went into the ladies loo. He was surprised to see women in there because he thought the sign on the door said “laddies”!

You have an odd view on what happens in the men’s. You do know men don’t walk around the men’s loos showing their penis to everyone right? That no one sees another man’s penis at all unless they were to stand next to a urinal and stare at which point they would be kicked out and you would need to be taught some basic etiquette.

Purpleturtle45 · 03/07/2026 07:23

Absolutely fine, clearly a woman is at less risk of a 9 year old boy with him Mum than a 9 year old boy in the male toilets.

TCsApply · 03/07/2026 07:32

Justonemorething82 · 03/07/2026 07:10

How incredibly patronising. Again.

I know! Anxiety is the last thing be I feel. Rage yes and a determination that the safeguarding of children be a priority but anxiety no. Families and sufferers of abuse aren’t anxious little beings to be patronised. Most have had to endured more than many and have needed a huge amount of strength and resilience to do so.

BirdLandedonmyHead · 03/07/2026 07:39

What abput the boys that go out withput an adult? Maybe not 9... but 10,11, 12... should tbey also go in the womens? Or even not leave the house at all unaccompained.

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