Welfarisation has made people utterly entitled and unable to take responsibility for themselves and their families.

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I grew up in a working class family. The values I was taught were that you stood on your own two feet and it was no one else's job to do what you could do for yourself.

If you were hurt, you were expected to get up and go and clean yourself up - and stop whining about it unless it was actually serious. If you were ill, you went to bed and if you were lucky some magic lucozade appeared.

If you were sad, then you were sad. If life was unfair then that was just how life was and you needed to deal with it.

You never ever sought charity or took benefits when you were able to work or put up with less. You lived to your own means, not to what you saw on TV or at school - and if you wanted that lifestyle it was up to you to get it.

Today everyone has the expectation that someone must help them, that they are obliged to help them - even before they have made any attempt to actually do the work of helping themselves. They expect luxuries like holidays, pets, new clothes and treats when they do nothing to earn this.

I think self sufficiency is a value that needs to return to our society.

Could you provide your source for this?

I tried. They won’t cover any of my existing conditions.

Hence why I said, they SHOULD give it in vouchers, I am aware it doesn’t exist. If they did maybe the welfare bill would come down somewhat and people wouldn’t be claiming they can’t afford food while puffing on a cigarette.
Im talking generally before you tell me you don’t smoke

Oh, it would have paid out, the industry he is in has great employer provider health insurance with minimal copays. You cannot get insurance in the UK that covers anything related to his disability.

Google it …

I take it you would rather I didn’t, as it would show that your claim is incorrect.

I really don't mind if my taxes enable people with disabilities whose earning power is affected to have the occasional day or meal out or even, God save us, a modest holiday. I don't expect to live at the lowest possible subsistence level and I don't see why a disabled person should have to, especially when subsistence comes with all the additional challenges of disability that I don't have to worry about.

I grew up in a household that claimed benefits
Most of our neighbours did and without fail every single one of them smoked
Which you’d probably approve of because it’s shortened their life a bit, oh to be fair they’re still going strong at 70 even with the fags
Less benefits to pay out, I guess
Unlike these healthy buggers just watching Netflix and unable to afford food so they can’t even get the obesity disease

GPs do home visits.

what do you mean about district nurses???

You seriously believe that every country give out the same brother do here?!? Why do you think people are flooding over here?
You think people in Cambodia and Russia are drawing benefits?!? Or the DRC? Even most “civilised” countries don’t have the welfare state that we do.

I don’t smoke or drink.

Some days I use ready meals when I can’t cook - I use the pip to pay for that.

in actual fact, I don’t separate my budget like that, because the pip doesn’t cover all my additional costs, and it just all goes into my bank account.

Who is this random brother? People aren’t flooding to the UK, so thats something else that also isn’t factual. Disability benefits are available in Russia by the way, I’m not sure about the other two examples you gave.

Do you think if they’re giving out brothers I could swap mine?

They must be, and I bet you can.

Well, you can swap babies in a lot of public toilets 😆

As we say in Scotland "Above yer tongue ye dareny speak". In other words, you don't know what's round the corner in your own life.........

I can make money stretch further by using community pantries to help keep the food shop cost down but it is cash only. If I was given food vouchers, it would actually be more expensive. Not to mention how expensive it would be to change the system to a voucher system.

If people are determined enough to receive cash, they will simply sell vouchers instead which is an issue in America with their food voucher system.

Are you sure?

I don't separate my son's DLA either. It just goes into the bank account like anything else would.