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AIBU to refuse weekly lifts to a neighbour's hospital appointments?

674 replies

IGotDreams · Yesterday 10:40

We have lived in our house for 4 years and know the neighbours to say hello to, taken a parcel in for them occasionally, we chat sometimes but we don’t know them well. We are friendly but not friends. We are busy with work, kids and general life.

One of the neighbours has asked if we can take her to a hospital appointment once every week for the next 4 weeks. One of their adult children can apparently bring her home.

Technically we could do it if we moved things around without too much difficulty, but as we don’t know her well, we said no. She looked shocked when we said we couldn’t help and she walked away without saying goodbye.

I mentioned it to my parents in passing last week and they said I should have said I’d help but I explained we are busy and she can make other arrangements. When I spoke to my parents last night, they asked me if I had changed my mind and was going to help the neighbour out. I said no and that we hadn’t even thought/spoke about it since as we are busy. My mum said I should be willing to help people more. I disagreed. We are busy and have enough going on with our own family and friends and that the neighbours aren’t my responsibility. In my neighbours situation, I wouldn’t ask for help from neighbours who we hardly know.

Would you have helped? I won’t be changing my mind and helping but wondered if people would generally be more helpful than me. I did say to my parents that they could help my neighbours out if they wanted to but apparently it isn’t there place to. They said they would do it for their own neighbours if asked.

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Gatekeeper · Yesterday 12:17

HarshbutTrue2 · Yesterday 11:34

Karma

there is no such thing

JustGiveMeTheNoodles · Yesterday 12:17

IGotDreams · Yesterday 12:05

To whoever said I made up the hospital being an hour away, I didn’t, but to be clear, even if the hospital was 20 minutes away, my answer would still have been no.

Whats the point on this post then

You clearly believe yanbu

Pilgrimlady · Yesterday 12:17

Actually, reading my own post back, you should say no or you'll end up like I did!

Darkmodelarry · Yesterday 12:18

Being a nice neighbour to me means - taking in parcels, helping someone out with a handful of tea bags or a cup of sugar when they ran out unexpectedly, popping in to feed the cat on the odd weekend - little things that make life sweeter.

NOT rearranging my life to do a 2 hour journey for 4 weeks for someone I don’t know who has children who do not want to rearrange their lives!

i will help where I can but there is helping and helping.

I feel for this op - it is not something she wants to do so why should she feel obligated?

obviously a lot of people on mumsnet have halos as it seems they will do anything for anyone - I just don’t believe it!

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 12:18

SpiritofaPanda · Yesterday 12:17

Easy to say when you don’t drive so would never have to face this situation.

I can drive now.

PetulaGordeno · Yesterday 12:18

I need help when my other half is away and have three brilliant neighbours.
Help as in only in an absolute emergency. They know my situation (which I’d rather not go into) and have been really kind.
However, I would never dream of asking for lifts in that way from someone who hardly knew me, and had no idea what was wrong.
The 4 weeks could be four months and a two hour round trip could be 3 at busy times.
At the end of the day this is something which needs addressing with her own family, GP and hospital.
I am very grateful that I have neighbours who will help in an emergency but I can count on one hand the number of times I have asked for help in decades.

RanchRat · Yesterday 12:18

I did this once for a new neighbour and she turned out to be a massive cunt.

GinaandGin · Yesterday 12:19

IGotDreams · Yesterday 11:56

But I didn’t want to do any, so why would I say that?

We have to work, we have children, pets and responsibilities to others. I don’t want to take something else on so I said no.

I agree with this
Don't lesd people on woth false hope and fake promises to appear nice
And then make up an excuse at the last minute
It's disingenuous

PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 12:19

@IGotDreams you could offer but charge for fuel but they pay upfront ?

PyongyangKipperbang · Yesterday 12:20

Isnt it amazing how many people will definitely help someone when they are not being asked to....?

Carandache18 · Yesterday 12:21

It's because you WFH and it really doesn't count as work for so many people. So do I, and have for 30 years. All through the dcs school days I was the useful parent and default setting, and I did it. I did my lovely nextdoor neighbours hospital trips and care and much more until she died as her own family were 'busy'. But when someone moved their elderly mother in to her house and came round and said to me 'we heard how good you were to L' I said no. He also looked shocked and marched off muttering.

nomas · Yesterday 12:21

Mapletree1985 · Yesterday 12:12

I would have helped because it's only for a month and what goes around comes around. Cast your bread upon the waters and all that. Hopefully you or your children will never be in the position where you need help from a relative stranger, since right now you're one of the many creating a society where nobody can be arsed to go out of their way to help someone unless there's something in it for them..

I have had extraordinary help from strangers and I still think of them to this day. I wish them well whenever I think of them.

I have also helped strangers and will always do so when needed.

The key word is need, though.

In OP’s shoes, I wouldn’t see a need here, I see a want.

StormGazing · Yesterday 12:22

2 hours out of my working day and my bosses would be pretty miffed!! It pisses me off that people who think you do nothing if you’re working from home

Monty36 · Yesterday 12:22

Elbreth · Yesterday 11:15

Almost as if it's different people saying those things, isn't it? Couldn't be that, though, because there's so few people on Mumsnet.

I wonder if she was younger the answer would have been yes of course. No problem.

GinaandGin · Yesterday 12:23

Mapletree1985 · Yesterday 12:12

I would have helped because it's only for a month and what goes around comes around. Cast your bread upon the waters and all that. Hopefully you or your children will never be in the position where you need help from a relative stranger, since right now you're one of the many creating a society where nobody can be arsed to go out of their way to help someone unless there's something in it for them..

So you would happily take annual leave to do so ?
Or take unpaid leave?
Or make the hours up during family time at the weekend

nomas · Yesterday 12:24

RanchRat · Yesterday 12:18

I did this once for a new neighbour and she turned out to be a massive cunt.

Best and most truthful response on the whole thread 🤣

Overtheatlantic · Yesterday 12:24

I would have agreed but only for two of the appointments; it sends a clear message that you are otherwise busy but will help if you can.

nomas · Yesterday 12:25

PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 12:19

@IGotDreams you could offer but charge for fuel but they pay upfront ?

It might not be worth upending your entire day for £10?

ChocolateBiscuitsandaCuppa · Yesterday 12:25

Two hours for 4 weeks? No chance, and I know a lot of my neighbours and am fond of them.

It would be different if the hospital was a 15min drive away, but she is beyond rude to think you'll drop everything to give up two hours for someone you don't even know well.

Linencat · Yesterday 12:26

IGotDreams · Yesterday 11:11

Yes we work from home, but we still have to work! We both start work around 7am ish, one of us takes a break to take the kids to school and college and pick them up and then work til 5pm ish.

The hospital is an hours drive away so 2 hours round trip for us.

She is 60 ish, lives alone but has a partner who doesn’t live with her. I see him there sometimes but I don’t know how often she sees him.

She looked shocked, said ‘right’ and walked off without saying goodbye.

Not RTFT
I suspect she thinks you are available all day because you are at home
I had similar car on the drive = at home
When in fact I WOH FT and cycle in
Shes being very cheeky 15 mins drop off, fine -2 hour round trip?
Um no

nomas · Yesterday 12:26

Monty36 · Yesterday 12:22

I wonder if she was younger the answer would have been yes of course. No problem.

Why would it? Do you think the OP is being ageist? Confused

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 12:27

I would try to do two out of four trips. I believe in helping others in the community when I can without having to move mountains.
I personally think that a lot of people are too disconnected to help others, sad really, you never know when you will need help from someone.

Sovignyonblonksvp · Yesterday 12:28

Depends entirely on the distance and timing. The nearest hospital to me is easily a 90 minute round trip in rush hour, maybe more. At the best of times it would be an hour. I don’t have that to spare when I’m already working around the kids schedule. For my mum, I would make an effort, if I possibly could. For a random neighbour then no. And if you try to fit it in once the requests will just keep coming. As long as you were polite about it, they can’t complain. As you say, for a regular known appointment other forms of transport are available.

MyKindHiker · Yesterday 12:28

Sigh. Another depressing thread. I haven't read it because I know the general consensus these days is people should just look out for themselves and not help out other people.

Yes OP, you are not 'being unreasonable' but wouldn't it be nice to be nice just because you could be? And do a kind thing for someone? I'm raising my kids so that when they are adults they are the kind of people who would say yes and help other people out from the kindness of their hearts. I imagine your mother thought she was doing the same with you.

PenelopeJoanSterling · Yesterday 12:28

nomas · Yesterday 12:25

It might not be worth upending your entire day for £10?

fuel and time + depending on area and wealth etc could charge more ?