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Burnham has won. More turmoil?

684 replies

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 05:51

Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer.

Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances?

YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader.

YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

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Watercooler · Yesterday 05:54

We really don't need it. Our issues are global instability. We just need boring stability to ride it out, not poster boy contests.

furimosa · Yesterday 05:56

we do not need more change.

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 05:57

Better than Reform winning.

keepswimming38 · Yesterday 05:57

This is driven by Burnhams ego. I’m really sick of this male machismo shite.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · Yesterday 05:59

Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the Labour Party electing yet another white male leader.

Burnham has won. More turmoil?
TigTails · Yesterday 05:59

This will be like the Jacinda Ardern effect. 🙄

CoffeeAndACroissant · Yesterday 05:59

It's because of things like Instagram, everyone wants instant wins. There were 14 years of Tory austerity and yet for some reason people thought Labour could magically fix everything in six months and then were shocked when that didn't happen.

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be British.

OvernightBloats · Yesterday 06:01

Let the games begin!

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 06:03

CoffeeAndACroissant · Yesterday 05:59

It's because of things like Instagram, everyone wants instant wins. There were 14 years of Tory austerity and yet for some reason people thought Labour could magically fix everything in six months and then were shocked when that didn't happen.

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be British.

That expectation was set by Labour themselves. Unless you voted Labour in the last election, you have no need to be embarrassed. The current shambles is entirely of Starmer's own making and sums up his entire short premiership with the party lurching from one psychodrama to the next, creating ongoing instability.

TigTails · Yesterday 06:03

Oh don’t worry, when he’s the PM he’ll be disliked within 12 months anyway, when, funnily enough, he has also failed to magically solve everything!

He may not even last till the next GE!

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 06:04

Another leader, more tax rises, Reform. That’s all I see in the future with this prick.

Settlersa · Yesterday 06:05

At least now we won’t get PM Ange, Ed or salesman Streeting and Keir will be gone. Don’t like Burnham but best of bad bunch

Level1469 · Yesterday 06:05

Past caring tbh, I absolutely hate what this country has become.

Luddite26 · Yesterday 06:06

A lot of the instability is being caused by the Reform leader pushing his narrative. If the Reform candidate had won they would be calling for a GE which is what they have been pushing for since day 1 of Starmer moving into Number Ten. Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage. He has weaknesses which Reform have exploited . He left himself wide open for a lot of criticism too.
I doubt Farage even wants to be PM he wouldn't be able to earn all his extras and he would have to attempt to fulfill his pledges. He is no friend of the British people he is self serving.

TinaBeliever · Yesterday 06:07

Hang on, I thought a reform were going to wipe the floor with labour?

I demand a recount!

😂

Settlersa · Yesterday 06:07

Hopefully Rachel will be a goner

bozzabollix · Yesterday 06:08

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 06:03

That expectation was set by Labour themselves. Unless you voted Labour in the last election, you have no need to be embarrassed. The current shambles is entirely of Starmer's own making and sums up his entire short premiership with the party lurching from one psychodrama to the next, creating ongoing instability.

And presumably you sit there writing that as a Tory voter?

The irony.

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · Yesterday 06:08

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 06:03

That expectation was set by Labour themselves. Unless you voted Labour in the last election, you have no need to be embarrassed. The current shambles is entirely of Starmer's own making and sums up his entire short premiership with the party lurching from one psychodrama to the next, creating ongoing instability.

And actually of Labour MPs own making. They have been the most disloyal and unsupportive of all. Of course if the government tries to make decisions and are forced into u turn after u turn by their own party they are going to look completely incompetent.

Sunandsunshine · Yesterday 06:08

It's all very depressing.

If I thought a change of leadership would do any good I would be happy to see the back of Starmer. But I have absolutely no faith that a new leader will be any better.

And no faith either that a new leader will be long term. The role seems to have become akin to that of most football managers: just a revolving door.

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 06:10

You just have to read the langague on this thread to see why Politcs is so toxic, and more divided than ever.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 06:13

Luddite26 · Yesterday 06:06

A lot of the instability is being caused by the Reform leader pushing his narrative. If the Reform candidate had won they would be calling for a GE which is what they have been pushing for since day 1 of Starmer moving into Number Ten. Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage. He has weaknesses which Reform have exploited . He left himself wide open for a lot of criticism too.
I doubt Farage even wants to be PM he wouldn't be able to earn all his extras and he would have to attempt to fulfill his pledges. He is no friend of the British people he is self serving.

“Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage.”

And that’s the issue. It’s all that prick cares about, how he is seen on the world stage. He doesn’t give a shit about the UK, he only cares about how the other world leaders see him. Because he has a grandiose sense of self worth and thinks he’s far better than he really is. Complete, selfish total utter narcissist more like.
Oh and btw he’s done nothing but make a fool of himself on the world stage. He’s a laughing stock and the other world leaders know it.

Watercooler · Yesterday 06:14

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 06:13

“Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage.”

And that’s the issue. It’s all that prick cares about, how he is seen on the world stage. He doesn’t give a shit about the UK, he only cares about how the other world leaders see him. Because he has a grandiose sense of self worth and thinks he’s far better than he really is. Complete, selfish total utter narcissist more like.
Oh and btw he’s done nothing but make a fool of himself on the world stage. He’s a laughing stock and the other world leaders know it.

While farage toadies to trump. I'd take starmer any day.

Teeheehee1579 · Yesterday 06:14

Ugh - I feel really down about this and I actually don’t agree that it’s better than reform winning - I think it makes Reform more likely to win in the next election because on top of the people who think Starmer (in less than 2 years) should have been able to fix decades of issues that have built up under several governments and a very unstable global economy over which he has very little control, we’ll now get the ‘he wasn’t voted in by us so has no mandate’ voices too. I find it utterly depressing. No one from any party would have done any better - the problems that we have cannot be fixed in less than 2 years and no one has anymore idea than Starmer (well I certainly haven’t heard any other party put forward any workable suggestions anyway) as how to fix all of this given the causes. I blame Streeting, not Burnham though for triggering the start of it all. The country desperately needs some stability and those two idiots are about to take it away from us in a depressing leadership contest where what we need is sensible. Once that has happened, all those they that seem to think someone can magically fix all of this, will bay for an election for the next 3 years because yuh know, we didn’t vote for Burnham so he has no right to make decisions in my name blah nonsense. I had hoped the World Cup might bring the country together over the next few weeks but no, we’re going to have to suffer through this now.

Swiss177 · Yesterday 06:15

I genuinely don’t understand how a single person votes Labour. I can only assume they are supportive of others subsidising them. There is no other rational answer. They simply have to be economically selfish.

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 06:16

Watercooler · Yesterday 06:14

While farage toadies to trump. I'd take starmer any day.

lol! With the current state of this country and his “I don’t give a fuck” attitude, then good luck to you 😂

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