Burnham has won. More turmoil?

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Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer.

Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances?

YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader.

YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

Oh, God, not the nasal voice, please!

How incredibly sexist and racist

They should have chosen Burnham as leader when they had the chance years ago instead of Milliband!

As much as I wish this wasn’t necessary- I’m pleased about the result.

At this point I see the threat of an extreme right wing government lead by Farage to be existential. This was the only route I can see they might prevent it.

People talk about that period as though it was the Dark Ages. Such nonsense.

That government was actually just living within it's means which is something all governments should do.

Using the word "austerity" to cover this period is a complete misuse of language. More importantly it minimises the impact of the genuine austerity that people have faced at other times in history.

I used to think this until recently. But the latest resignations on the question of defence has tipped the balance for me and I want him to go now too.

It does seem a dangerous time and he was being told by experts that we need to put more money into defence.

That isn’t sexism. Or racism.

Banding together would not have helped you on this occasion, as Burnham would have won regardless.

If Burnham hadn't been able to win in that particular constituency, then Labour would have been in very real trouble indeed. However, I don't think we can necessarily assume that Burnham will have the same effect in the rest of the country.

The other bit that we don't really know is how much the vote was for Burnham and how much was against Reform.

@TheOliveWriterthe one’s with cushy 9-5 office roles, many of whom aren’t needed! Obviously not the same!!

Some posters have mentioned Andy’s values, not sure what they are as they have changed many times over the years.

Good chance the junior doctors will be on their 9th strike over the insulting 30-odd % pay rise. Clap, clap.

I quite like Streeting and thought he did a reasonably good job as Health sec. He's also more to the right of Burnham but would bring a more centric approach that I think Labour need. Socialist Burnham isn't the answer. He's going to sink us further with giving trade unions what they want. It's going to be a period of more misery on middle income earners until Burnham is inevitably ousted. I want to see what he will do with the defence budget.

Absolutely agree,conservatives destroyed everything for their personal selfish gains. It’s ridiculous to expect that undone any time soon!

From what I remember Labour were very much emphasising that it would take time to turn things around and anyone could see that the tories had left the country in a right state.

I’m not saying that Labour haven’t made some fuck ups and tried to push through unpopular policies, but any government has to change its plans as a reaction to external circumstances and influences.

Being snubbed by Trump is a good thing. Who'd want to be mates with him?!

Well I’ve always loved Burnham personally and wish him all the best, he’d be a fantastic PM.

And are there no 9-5 jobs in the private sector 🤔

Try watching the video. Starmer is not a leader, he’s a silly sausage. Time for him to go. He will go down in history as being one of the worst PMs ever!

Quite. But it really is remarkable that almost every other political party in the UK, even the DUP FFS, has managed to elect a woman to lead them and the Labour Party, supposedly the main voice for equal rights, equal opportunity etc, never has. I should add I've never voted Tory in my life and probably never will. I've mostly voted Labour. In recent times it's because they were the least bad option. God knows what I'll do at the next GE.

Hoping to see KS, RR and BP resign, it is labour’s
last chance, even given circumstances they’ve shown no ability to connect to people.

Who would want to be mates with Starmer! 🤮

Selfish personal gains - you mean like running in a by election so you can become PM?

Th3 issue is that Starmer cheated the electorate because he promised a central government but did not deliver that. He promised welfare reform, investment and increased productivity.Instead his back benchers stopped welfare reform, gave more welfare in the for, of lifting the 2 child cap and he took away the winter fuel not in his manifesto. He also attacked the farmers and I think misled as he increased taxes on working people who get dividends etc. They failed to smash the gangs. All they did was introduce the easier policies to gov3 money away - not their money I might add but the employers / tax payers money.

Now Labour ironically thinks that a lurch further left is the right thing to do. It’s the complete opposite. They need to listen to the floating voters not the rigid Labour voters. They want stability, productivity increase and growth not the spend spend.

This is a disaster as they will lose the floating voters and it will be carnage. Their future policies will crash the economy as borrowing is already up.

That's a bit sausage-ist.
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It’s the flip flopping and cowering to back benchers.

he could have changed benefits reform and didnt
he shouldn’t have cancelled the Rwanda deal unless he had a solid plan to ‘smash the gangs’.

he shouldn’t have accepted freebies.