Page 3 | Burnham has won. More turmoil?

KatiePricesKnickers · 2026-06-19T04:51:37+00:00

Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer. Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances? YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader. YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

NetZeroZealot · Yesterday 06:45

Teeheehee1579 · Yesterday 06:14

Ugh - I feel really down about this and I actually don’t agree that it’s better than reform winning - I think it makes Reform more likely to win in the next election because on top of the people who think Starmer (in less than 2 years) should have been able to fix decades of issues that have built up under several governments and a very unstable global economy over which he has very little control, we’ll now get the ‘he wasn’t voted in by us so has no mandate’ voices too. I find it utterly depressing. No one from any party would have done any better - the problems that we have cannot be fixed in less than 2 years and no one has anymore idea than Starmer (well I certainly haven’t heard any other party put forward any workable suggestions anyway) as how to fix all of this given the causes. I blame Streeting, not Burnham though for triggering the start of it all. The country desperately needs some stability and those two idiots are about to take it away from us in a depressing leadership contest where what we need is sensible. Once that has happened, all those they that seem to think someone can magically fix all of this, will bay for an election for the next 3 years because yuh know, we didn’t vote for Burnham so he has no right to make decisions in my name blah nonsense. I had hoped the World Cup might bring the country together over the next few weeks but no, we’re going to have to suffer through this now.

Completely agree with this

cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 06:46

MushMonster · Yesterday 06:38

The fault lies 100% with Starmer. He worked hard to get himself tangled with Mandelson, someone who he was friends with Epstein, had been fired twice from government on serious counts, has all sorts of dodgy dealings, including an interest in Pallantir, company Starmer met while in breach of the Ministerial Code (that, on its own is a sackable offence).
Now, we all suffer the consequences of Starmer's actions.
I am happy that Burham won. I was worried that he would not be elected.

Starmer will have to face the consequences of his actions. It is 100% on Starmer. He has done this to himself.

But Mandelson only existed again because of Trump and his ridiculous tariffs & general unhinged nonsense & because of our over-reliance on America post-Brexit.
Clearly Mandelson knows exactly where the bodies are buried regarding Epstein and so he was trundled off to deal (blackmail?)with crazy Trump.

But Starmer was naive to believe that the correct due diligence had been done by McSweeny and co regarding Mandelson. He was clearly lied to about the depth of Mandelson's involvement in Epstein sh*t otherwise why would an intelligent man put himself in that position?

MagpiePi · Yesterday 06:46

Firetreev · Yesterday 06:31

Yes, Farage wants to be PM only to be able to say that he has been the PM. He would consider the job done on day one. The fact that people don't see this amazes me. He doesn't give a fuck about his average voter - he'd actively avoid most of them if he wasn't courting their vote. What does an upper class man who went to public school have in common with the average working /underclass white Brit? Absolutely nothing. He probably considers them to be idiotic proles. The only person Farage cares about is Farage, oh and maybe his donors too.

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Ah, but he’s the kind of bloke you could have a pint and a fag and slag off immigrants with down the local ‘Spoons. Which the only ability you need to be a good PM.

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DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · Yesterday 06:46

Swiss177 · Yesterday 06:15

I genuinely don’t understand how a single person votes Labour. I can only assume they are supportive of others subsidising them. There is no other rational answer. They simply have to be economically selfish.

Tbh the only reason I can think of is that they want to piss off Starmer.

It was always going to be win win for non Starmer/Labour fans. This is going to be interesting. Not great for the UK though, sadly.

Settlersa · Yesterday 06:46

It will be interesting to see the new cabinet. Hopefully Phillipson gone too

Motnight · Yesterday 06:49

Teeheehee1579 · Yesterday 06:14

Ugh - I feel really down about this and I actually don’t agree that it’s better than reform winning - I think it makes Reform more likely to win in the next election because on top of the people who think Starmer (in less than 2 years) should have been able to fix decades of issues that have built up under several governments and a very unstable global economy over which he has very little control, we’ll now get the ‘he wasn’t voted in by us so has no mandate’ voices too. I find it utterly depressing. No one from any party would have done any better - the problems that we have cannot be fixed in less than 2 years and no one has anymore idea than Starmer (well I certainly haven’t heard any other party put forward any workable suggestions anyway) as how to fix all of this given the causes. I blame Streeting, not Burnham though for triggering the start of it all. The country desperately needs some stability and those two idiots are about to take it away from us in a depressing leadership contest where what we need is sensible. Once that has happened, all those they that seem to think someone can magically fix all of this, will bay for an election for the next 3 years because yuh know, we didn’t vote for Burnham so he has no right to make decisions in my name blah nonsense. I had hoped the World Cup might bring the country together over the next few weeks but no, we’re going to have to suffer through this now.

This is very true

I am a lifelong Labour voter and I currently feel politically homeless.

MushMonster · Yesterday 06:49

ExitPursuedByABare · Yesterday 06:36

Are we ungovernable? 7th PM in 10 years. I’m quite excited in a self-destructive sort of way. I likes a bit of political mayhem.

Ever since Keir Starmer (Pony Harmer) said ‘The grown ups are in the room’ during his first speech outside No 10 I knew his days were numbered. Pompous arse.

I do not think so.
There are lots of problems, many of which we share with other West countries. Mainly, the current international chaos regarding fuel, shipping and security, aging population, health system issues, high debt...

But ungovernable? No, I think the problem is the lack of quality in the politicians and the amount of "governing" that they leave in the hands of the markets or blame to the markets, the EU, the weather and whatever else.... they are incompetent and they carry around this excuse of impotence, instead of sorting the problems we face. They always have someone else to blame.
Like Starmer is blaming others for his choosing of Mandelson (and his companies, friends, contacts..) over his own job, security in our own country. Following the Tories footsteps, promoting his pals without a care for the UK. And the funny part is that Starmer thinks he can get away with it!

NetZeroZealot · Yesterday 06:50

EdithBond · Yesterday 06:43

At least he doesn’t believe in trickle down economics, which is a good start. It’s not simply growth that’s needed to heal the country, it’s tackling financial inequality.

And he won’t take ‘traditional’ Labour voting areas (‘The Red Wall’) for granted, as Blair did, which left people so despondent they were lured by Reform.

He may also benefit from the end of the war in Iran (if the deal sticks), which should help the economy.

We’ve had six PMs since Brexit, which hugely destabilised the economy.

Starmer isn’t a proponent of trickledown economics either.

Thats always been a Tory policy.

Sidebeforeself · Yesterday 06:51

bozzabollix · Yesterday 06:08

And presumably you sit there writing that as a Tory voter?

The irony.

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toffeeappleturnip · Yesterday 06:53

Stability please 🖐

Shoola · Yesterday 06:53

CoffeeAndACroissant · Yesterday 05:59

It's because of things like Instagram, everyone wants instant wins. There were 14 years of Tory austerity and yet for some reason people thought Labour could magically fix everything in six months and then were shocked when that didn't happen.

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be British.

Tory austerity involved an awful lot of government spending. That didn't leave much room for the increased tax and spending that the Left love so much. Getting more people to pay more tax is not popular or easy when the cost of living is high, people are already being taxed a lot and jobs are in shorter supply. Whoever gets in will have the same problem unless they can conjure up an economic miracle.

Everybodysinthehousetonight · Yesterday 06:53

TigTails · Yesterday 05:59

This will be like the Jacinda Ardern effect. 🙄

This 💯 she ruined that country but the rest of the world thought she was great.....

the80sweregreat · Yesterday 06:54

Not sure why anyone wants this job. The UK has slowly become ungovernable.
He’ll be hated within a few months. It’s his ego pushing this along because Jeremy Corbyn beat him last time and he can’t live with the rejection ( which happened twice)

HighHeelsRedLips · Yesterday 06:54

Luddite26 · Yesterday 06:06

A lot of the instability is being caused by the Reform leader pushing his narrative. If the Reform candidate had won they would be calling for a GE which is what they have been pushing for since day 1 of Starmer moving into Number Ten. Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage. He has weaknesses which Reform have exploited . He left himself wide open for a lot of criticism too.
I doubt Farage even wants to be PM he wouldn't be able to earn all his extras and he would have to attempt to fulfill his pledges. He is no friend of the British people he is self serving.

“Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage”. 😂

“Humiliating To Be British!" | Keir Starmer ‘Snubbed’ By Trump At Gaza Peace Summit
m.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3STPsnBAc&ra=m

cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 06:54

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 06:13

“Starmer has shown a strong leadership on the world stage.”

And that’s the issue. It’s all that prick cares about, how he is seen on the world stage. He doesn’t give a shit about the UK, he only cares about how the other world leaders see him. Because he has a grandiose sense of self worth and thinks he’s far better than he really is. Complete, selfish total utter narcissist more like.
Oh and btw he’s done nothing but make a fool of himself on the world stage. He’s a laughing stock and the other world leaders know it.

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What absolute rubbish.
Starmer is not a "laughing stock" on the world stage at all.
The man who stood up to Trump and didn't let us get dragged into Trump's ego war in Iran back in February? When both Badenoch & Farage were vocal in their desire to plunge right into the mess? Just imagine if he had done that?
Trump is now scrabbling like mad to get out of a war he created and in which Iran are going to emerge the winners.
He is the laughing stock on the world stage, not Starmer.

MikeRafone · Yesterday 06:55

Dragonscaledaisy · Yesterday 06:03

That expectation was set by Labour themselves. Unless you voted Labour in the last election, you have no need to be embarrassed. The current shambles is entirely of Starmer's own making and sums up his entire short premiership with the party lurching from one psychodrama to the next, creating ongoing instability.

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Can you elaborate on the actual psychodrama?

apart from he winter fuel allowance

5128gap · Yesterday 06:57

Swiss177 · Yesterday 06:15

I genuinely don’t understand how a single person votes Labour. I can only assume they are supportive of others subsidising them. There is no other rational answer. They simply have to be economically selfish.

It doesn't take long to turn from "We should listen to the working classes, respect their opinion and not see ourselves as superior to people who we disagree with" back to a "bunch of selfish, work shy scroungers" does it?
Mask slips very quickly when the ordinary people aren't being useful.

HighHeelsRedLips · Yesterday 06:58

cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 06:54

What absolute rubbish.
Starmer is not a "laughing stock" on the world stage at all.
The man who stood up to Trump and didn't let us get dragged into Trump's ego war in Iran back in February? When both Badenoch & Farage were vocal in their desire to plunge right into the mess? Just imagine if he had done that?
Trump is now scrabbling like mad to get out of a war he created and in which Iran are going to emerge the winners.
He is the laughing stock on the world stage, not Starmer.

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Oh but he is a laughing stock…
"Humiliating To Be British!" | Keir Starmer ‘Snubbed’ By Trump At Gaza Peace Summit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3STPsnBAc&ra=m
😂🤣😂🤣😂

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Sl0wS3as0n · Yesterday 06:58

MikeRafone · Yesterday 06:55

Can you elaborate on the actual psychodrama?

apart from he winter fuel allowance

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It would be the private school fees issue. Some MN froth day in and day out about this. They feel the future of the country as a whole hinges on a teeny tiny number of rich people having to pay VAT on their private school fees.

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KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 06:58

Everybodysinthehousetonight · Yesterday 06:53

This 💯 she ruined that country but the rest of the world thought she was great.....

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I understand she moved herself and her family to Sydney because NZ is deep in the shit economically.

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cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 06:58

MikeRafone · Yesterday 06:55

Can you elaborate on the actual psychodrama?

apart from he winter fuel allowance

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Honestly some people just spout utter nonsense like this with no evidence to back it up
Could be a Daily Mail journalist, their articles are like this - just overblown vitriol and grandiose statements with no real truth behind them.
The Daily Mail started the idea that Starmer is the "least popular PM ever" by just saying it over and over again.

MushMonster · Yesterday 06:59

cloudtreecarpet · Yesterday 06:46

But Mandelson only existed again because of Trump and his ridiculous tariffs & general unhinged nonsense & because of our over-reliance on America post-Brexit.
Clearly Mandelson knows exactly where the bodies are buried regarding Epstein and so he was trundled off to deal (blackmail?)with crazy Trump.

But Starmer was naive to believe that the correct due diligence had been done by McSweeny and co regarding Mandelson. He was clearly lied to about the depth of Mandelson's involvement in Epstein sh*t otherwise why would an intelligent man put himself in that position?

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Well......
Let's not buy into excuses, please. I had not heard this Mandelson knowing about any bodies one..... that is a new one .
But, the idea that UK PM should promote an individual who has been close enough to a murder to know where bodies are, instead of handing him to the police? And get it all properly settled and taken to court?
And blackmailing a President of another country!!??
Mandelson was always bad news, interested only in his pocket. And he has brougth zero positives to UK.

MikeRafone · Yesterday 07:00

Everybodysinthehousetonight · Yesterday 06:53

This 💯 she ruined that country but the rest of the world thought she was great.....

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Yes, they watched the thousands of death in Italy, slowly spread to the rest of Europe and watched zero in NZ and they shut down being an Island

Lugol · Yesterday 07:00

Quite why anyone even believes that the Government are running things anyway baffles me.

They are owned and run by the banks who run and own us.
They don't stop the energy companies from fucking us over, don't protect us from any of the onslaught of men pouring into our country to rinse it and have fucked over the youth by making them unemployable.

They have fucked small business by making it so ridiculously expensive to employ people so businesses are being forced to shed staff to keep going.

They spin everyone into a frenzy dividing us all while screwing us over removing our freedoms yet are toothless when girls are raped and men are stabbed.

This country is bankrupt and so is the rest of Europe.
If people think Andy Burnham is the answer when all this is, is another fucking male popularity contest and more smoke and mirrors to distract everyone while they push through digital ID.

In France when electricity and gas became cheaper they immediately passed the savings onto the population, reducing energy costs in the evenings by 60% and when the fuel prices came down last week they insisted the savings were immediately passed onto the population so they could pay less.

In the UK we are paying so much more and getting so much less.

People here are far too concerned with Palestine etc and not concerned enough with making the Government sort this country out.
Anyone who does is labelled as far right to shut them down.

We should ALL be taking to the streets to protest the state of this place but unless people can virtue signal about a country on the other side of the world they aren't interested.

We are all being played.

Andy Burnham won't change shit. This country is bankrupt.

InterestedDad37 · Yesterday 07:02

HighHeelsRedLips · Yesterday 06:58

Oh but he is a laughing stock…
"Humiliating To Be British!" | Keir Starmer ‘Snubbed’ By Trump At Gaza Peace Summit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3STPsnBAc&ra=m
😂🤣😂🤣😂

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That was purely and simply Trump's deranged and senile inability to use or recognise normal social cues. 🤷