Burnham has won. More turmoil?

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Now Burnham has won, it will trigger a leadership contest, and if he wins, a new chancellor of the exchequer.

Surely this cannot be good for the country, or its finances?

YABU - Burnham is a true leader who will improve the UK for everyone and be a competent and respected leader.

YANBU - FFS, here we go again.

It will be a massive relief to get rid of Reeves but not if she's replaced by Milliband. Another ego, whose sole interests lie in his own pet projects.

Agree Streeting did a decent job as health secretary and would bring a more centrist approach to Labour.

He could do for Labour what Kemi is doing for Conservatives - appeal to a broader base. Think it will be Burnham for PM though as Labour still seem to think they should go more left wing despite evidence to the contrary.

No I think Truss and Boris both need to argue over that crown. It’s hysterical you think Starmer even comes close to those buffoons.

Why are they all so awful? 🥴

And?

This tired defence from Labour supporters trotted out any time anyone dares to state what a mess they have made and how everything is now even worse is so futile.

I am not a Labour supporter nor a Tory nor a Reform voter.

😂

Happy to take the knee for the King of the North. Burnham's steady, fiscally competent and doesn't suffer fools gladly, which is extremely useful in Westminster. If he can steady the ship, Labour just might not cede to King Joffrey Farage and his Reform party in the next General Election.

It takes time to get ready for that. If you want Burnham for next GE you’re better to swap now.

Do you think it’s only the “rich” who have difficult and stressful jobs? How ridiculous. I work long hours in a difficult and stressful job but I’m not rich - dh earns significantly more than me but doesn’t work the hours I do. The utter bullshit that the more you earn the harder you work is such a fallacy. Tedious and ignorant 🙄

Yes, and they are meant to be the grown ups. They were happy to dish out shit every week on here when the Tories were in. Different ball game when your party have got to make tough decisions. If it wasn't for the serious matter of the country's interests at heart, I'd be getting my popcorn out for the leadership challenge.

We need stability, not leadership changes. I'm really annoyed at labour and Andy.

The absolutely last thing this country needs is even more instability.

None of the Labour government seem to have any decent strategies to promote growth. They all just want a fairer country and seem to think that business and taxes can fund their vision.

The reality though is that running a business right now is tough - it’s a challenging economic climate and Labours policies have made it even harder. Creating even more uncertainty is going to make things even more difficult. You need businesses to remain profitable if you are reliant on their tax revenue and you need stable governance to inspire confidence of investment into the UK.

I’m quite an optimistic person usually, but I’m extremely pessimistic about this.

He is an absolute laughing stock and if you can’t see that then it says more about you! He is a laughing stock for the very reason the world leaders can see his letting his own country go down the pan in favour of some made up dream of “fame” he has of being seen to be the one and only on the world stage.
Trump has also made him feel so small on the world stage many times too while the other leaders laughed on.

If you think the only good thing about him is for him to look good on the world stage while he lets our country and the people of our country go to shit then it really shows just how low your bar is for what you’ll accept from a government! Should be country first before world stage, not sell your country out to look like a big tough guy on the world stage. He looks ridiculous!

Not particularly a shambles in reality though.

Just in the hysterical media

Could you explain why?

😆 🤣 fiscally competent. Yeah, when it's appeasing trade unions then it's a free for all.

He won't, you know. He'll be a footnote in history at best. Lord Starmer of Oxted was, as Keir Starmer, a successful barrister, appointed Queen's Counsel, and generally thought to have done well as Director of Public Prosecutions, after which he was knighted. However, although he led his party to a huge General Election victory in 2024 and thereby became Prime Minister, his government made a number of questionable decisions (see main entry for UK Labour government 2024-2029) which led to a great drop in his popularity and his party's within a short time. He lost a leadership election to Lord Burnham of Makersfield in 2026 and was elevated to the House of Lords shortly afterwards.

A tired old defence! Seriously. It’s not old and going to get worse,the Bank of England has spoken today re how much of our economy we have lost because of it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg75npqkq4o

The lack of the right owning what they did and the damaging it’s causing,shutting down any discussion on it or attempts to reverse some of the damage is the reason why we’re in a mess.

But crack on,carry on whining about VAT on school fees. 👏🏿

I’ve heard it all now! Oh it wouldn’t be Starmer’s fault would it… no it must be Trumps!

Tell me you know nothing about how Government policy is implemented and how legislation is brought in by telling me you know nothing about how Government policy is implemented and how legislation is brought in.

The Tories were in power for 14 years. Labour's been in power for just over 18 months. It takes so much time and red tape to undo a previous Govt's work, especially one that had carte blanche to do what it wanted for 14 years. It was only when Labour took office that they could properly go through the books and see how bad the UK's finances were – and that was just a slither of what they needed to do. I do think they have made lame mistakes along the way and I want Burnham to replace Starmer, but the reason people say this is because it's true.

Starmer and Reeves are not up to the job.

A change will be good for Labour and for the country.

Maybe then we can now have a real Labour PM with real Labour policies...

And anyone who thinks Farage, a far right, work-shy, Moscow loving, grifter with dodgy donors could be a decent UK leader needs to seriously give their head a wobble.

Grooming gang apologist and advocate of men in womens spaces. What's not to like?

How is it futile, when the fella who agitated for Brexit, thereby tanking the economy, is now wanting to be PM - and people are voting for his party?

Surely, it’s not bemoaning what’s past, but being aware of the consequences of what you vote for?

Hi Kier….

We’re already in the turmoil with Starmer. It’s just that it’s not intended.