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To think life is more of a pain in the arse than it's worth

310 replies

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 21:40

Another day another random assortment of hassle and pain

And this is pretty much the best it's ever been (ok the 00s were better)

Aibu to wonder why this is a secret truth?

OP posts:
cornflakecrunchie · 19/06/2026 13:45

@MustTryHarderAndHarder What care? My late mum's care home cost my sibling & I about £120,000!

MickyMoonshine · 19/06/2026 13:49

Mingou · 19/06/2026 07:44

Many people can be genuinely happy again after very traumatic events, whether you can imagine it or not.

I agree. In fact, having experienced some very traumatic events has made me appreciate life even more.
I know too many people who haven’t had the chance to live a long life so I’m not wasting mine by being miserable. It would feel like an insult to those I’ve lost.

MustTryHarderAndHarder · 19/06/2026 14:16

cornflakecrunchie · 19/06/2026 13:45

@MustTryHarderAndHarder What care? My late mum's care home cost my sibling & I about £120,000!

Yes, exactly.

You lost her inheritance. For what? So that your mother could have a few extra years when I assumed she had already had a long and fulfilling life.

I'm sure your mother would not have wanted that and would have much preferred you and your sister to have the money.

FleshLiabilities · 19/06/2026 16:31

BettyJoanPerske · 18/06/2026 23:11

People who say that life is objectively shit have something wrong with them chemically, I think. It's an imbalance in the brain.

People who say that life is objectively great, and that you can just choose to be happy, have something wrong with them chemically, I think. It's an imbalance in the brain.

cloudtreecarpet · 19/06/2026 16:52

berlinbaby2025 · 19/06/2026 10:09

Yes. There is no point to living and life is more of a drag than it is a pleasure.

I also think the link to personal finances and contentment is hugely underestimated. Not everyone has two healthy incomes coming in, can comfortably retire early, be mortgage free by 60. Lots of things improve my well-being, one of them being spending money to do stuff, and I just don’t have the disposable money to enough of that. Invariably, going for a bike ride or sitting in my garden does fuck all for me.

Yes, money doesn't necessarily buy happiness in and of itself but it does offer choices & those can lead to happiness.

bestcatlife · 19/06/2026 16:58

I agree @CurdinHenrythey won’t introduce assisted dying as it will mean less taxpayers

cloudtreecarpet · 19/06/2026 17:00

I think the existentialists had it right with their view that the world is just absurd.

As humans we try to invent things to give it meaning and purpose but really we don't know why we are here, what the point of it is and a lot of whether you live a great or a crap life is just down to luck.

Religion and God (s) are the main way we have tried to give it all some point - the old "struggle here & be rewarded in the after life" is a great way to convince yourself that it's worth it and that obviously kept people going for centuries.
Without that central belief it does all become a bit bleak and pointless if you really think about it.

Duvetdayforme · 19/06/2026 17:01

Did you only recently discover that life is meaningless and everything dies?

SunnyRedSnail · 19/06/2026 17:07

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 22:28

I do enjoy plenty of pleasures. But it's not worth the candle. If I could press a button to stop my parents from having bothered I would.

With some slight trepidation that pre birth Mormon limbo might be real.

@CurdinHenry you choose your own path in life.

If your life is shit then that's due to choices you are making. Don't blame your parents.

You can choose to carry on feeling life is shit or you can make some changes. Big changes. Small changes. That's up to you. Don't wait for life to come to you.

My life is tough but I love life. I have found some great people and learned (the hard way) not to let others drag you down.

cardibach · 19/06/2026 17:07

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 22:25

I'm not. Although I do find your inability to engage with the philosophical concept of the futility of existence a bit depressing.

It’s futile in that there’s no ‘point’ to it I guess.
I have a great time though. Friends, animals, good food, travel, music…
it’s great.

Womanofcustard · 19/06/2026 17:13

OP, if you are not already writing for a living, you should be.
I must be a bit sick, I am really enjoying this thread.
Nihilists unite!

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 18:20

SquirrelGG · 19/06/2026 07:01

I was responding to a post by the OP, who apparently is not suffering from depression.

No, I have never had it and agree that I am lucky. I do have one friend who suffers from it, but even she seems to be able to find joy at times and I can't imagine her making a post like the original one, which seems to be from someone who simply can't be bothered looking for the good things in life.

I presume OP must be in a very dark place at the moment (otherwise she wouldn't have posted this)..so I wouldn't dream of kicking her while she's down

Firefly1987 · 19/06/2026 18:54

MrsShawnHatosy · 19/06/2026 08:12

OP would it make any difference to know that it is a miracle you’re here at all? You’re the result of one egg meeting one out of possibly 300 million sperm. Had it been a different sperm, then…no you.

If she thinks life is more bother than it's worth why would that make her feel better.

Fetchthevet · 19/06/2026 18:59

SunnyRedSnail · 19/06/2026 17:07

@CurdinHenry you choose your own path in life.

If your life is shit then that's due to choices you are making. Don't blame your parents.

You can choose to carry on feeling life is shit or you can make some changes. Big changes. Small changes. That's up to you. Don't wait for life to come to you.

My life is tough but I love life. I have found some great people and learned (the hard way) not to let others drag you down.

I'm sorry but we don't always choose our path in life. If our lives are shit, it's not always because of the choices we made. What about girls born in a country where they get married off at 7 years old, or children born into famine or war? What about all the people who are abused or abandoned? I could go on and on with examples like this. Life is so unfair, and for some people it really is shit through no fault of their own.

Firefly1987 · 19/06/2026 19:37

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 12:30

What a lot of misery guts there are on this thread. I think that part of it is a (maybe unconscious) desire to bring others down and tell them that their joy isn't real, which is meanspirited. If you are a meanspirited person, then you will never be happy.

No we should be allowed to talk about this. If people think it's bringing them down even though they insist nothing could challenge their view on life then they simply shouldn't read it.

And why don't we tell people to stick a job or marriage out? Just change your mindset! So your husband is lazy and selfish, other women have it worse! Just suck it up! See how that works...

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 19:43

Womanofcustard · 19/06/2026 17:13

OP, if you are not already writing for a living, you should be.
I must be a bit sick, I am really enjoying this thread.
Nihilists unite!

What? OP is a terrible writer, no offense.

AliceAbsolum · 19/06/2026 19:44

SunnyRedSnail · 19/06/2026 17:07

@CurdinHenry you choose your own path in life.

If your life is shit then that's due to choices you are making. Don't blame your parents.

You can choose to carry on feeling life is shit or you can make some changes. Big changes. Small changes. That's up to you. Don't wait for life to come to you.

My life is tough but I love life. I have found some great people and learned (the hard way) not to let others drag you down.

Did you have good parents?

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 19:44

Firefly1987 · 19/06/2026 19:37

No we should be allowed to talk about this. If people think it's bringing them down even though they insist nothing could challenge their view on life then they simply shouldn't read it.

And why don't we tell people to stick a job or marriage out? Just change your mindset! So your husband is lazy and selfish, other women have it worse! Just suck it up! See how that works...

I'm sorry but you shouldn't be telling people that life is objectively bad. If you feel that way, it is a symptom of mental disease. Nothing at all like telling people to stick out a bad marriage.

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 19:49

Bebeemerald · 19/06/2026 11:33

There is no point to living and life is more of a drag than it is a pleasure.

we’ll change your life then @berlinbaby2025. You can literally change it tomorrow. I’m an absolute nihilist and agree with the first point - which makes the second point easy to deal with. What would make your life more a pleasure than a drag? Quitting your job and going to live on a beach in Bali? Joining a commune and living off the land? Moving to a windswept Scottish Island? Or just not doing all those ‘draggy’ things and doing small things you enjoy. Today, I’ve said fuck it to my admin list and am chilling under my sun shade. Whatever it is. Just do it

You need £££ though to do these things .....so as much as that would be lovely, it's not always possible 😕

Firefly1987 · 19/06/2026 19:53

Crushed23 · 19/06/2026 10:22

It’s all relative, isn’t it. I don’t have children or any sick/dying relatives, so career problems are the worst thing that could happen to me right now. I could let my world collapse and wallow in self-pity, or I could focus on areas of my life that aren’t a shitstorm and find joy there. I choose the latter.

That being said, I do accept that that choice is perhaps easier for me (glass half full person, always have been) than it might be for others, who are prone to depression, anxiety, etc.

I actually take a keen interest in antinatalism and the work of David Benatar and find this a very interesting discussion. My view is life may not be worth starting, but we have no choice in this therefore once we’re here, it’s worth continuing and making the most of life.

Edited

I love David Benatar-I must get around to reading his book! And yeah that's the idea, life is worth continuing but not worth starting. I totally agree.

OutsideLookingOut · 19/06/2026 19:55

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 19:44

I'm sorry but you shouldn't be telling people that life is objectively bad. If you feel that way, it is a symptom of mental disease. Nothing at all like telling people to stick out a bad marriage.

No I think just like "regretful parents" especially "regretful mothers" it is a social taboo. I have always thought that life was not a gift but I accept others think differently.

I am heartened to know others feel the same way (probably as much as mothers who found they did not enjoy being mothers did when they saw others do feel the same way and were only afraid to say so).

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 19:55

SunnyRedSnail · 19/06/2026 17:07

@CurdinHenry you choose your own path in life.

If your life is shit then that's due to choices you are making. Don't blame your parents.

You can choose to carry on feeling life is shit or you can make some changes. Big changes. Small changes. That's up to you. Don't wait for life to come to you.

My life is tough but I love life. I have found some great people and learned (the hard way) not to let others drag you down.

....says someone who has never suffered with clinical depression

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 20:00

OutsideLookingOut · 19/06/2026 19:55

No I think just like "regretful parents" especially "regretful mothers" it is a social taboo. I have always thought that life was not a gift but I accept others think differently.

I am heartened to know others feel the same way (probably as much as mothers who found they did not enjoy being mothers did when they saw others do feel the same way and were only afraid to say so).

Ok, but that's a specific situation, isn't it? There is a big difference between 'life is objectively shit' and 'motherhood isn't for everyone'. I'm someone who was never cut out to be a mother. Hence, I never became one. There is no reason nowadays for women (or anyone) to have children they don't want, at least not in most of the developed world.

BettyJoanPerske · 19/06/2026 20:01

EvieBB · 19/06/2026 19:55

....says someone who has never suffered with clinical depression

At least you admit that this outlook is a result of mental illness, rather than being reality.

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 19/06/2026 20:02

Not helpful, but feeling this way is as old as time: Accidie (also spelled acedia) is an archaic term for a state of listlessness, apathy, or spiritual sloth. It describes a heavy, inert feeling of not caring or losing interest in one's obligations, work, or spiritual condition.