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To think life is more of a pain in the arse than it's worth

310 replies

CurdinHenry · 18/06/2026 21:40

Another day another random assortment of hassle and pain

And this is pretty much the best it's ever been (ok the 00s were better)

Aibu to wonder why this is a secret truth?

OP posts:
SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 23:26

Goatsarebest · 19/06/2026 23:22

Buy two goats

That made me smile. I got two dogs. Close enough? :-)

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:33

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 23:25

I've not even opened that thread. I can guess what it's like. I haven't seen the post you reference.

I understand what you mean about experience in relation to resilience. I'm guessing the one person wrote your post off as irrelevant because it didn't line up with their beliefs or experience. That doesn't make your account and experience invalid at all, just different. Sometimes I think that those people might understand one day. Or they might get lucky.

Those who think your health concerns are a burden aren't worth your time or consideration. Those who can understand and be supportive, even if they don't have the lived experience, are the ones who matter.

Thank you for your kind words. I'm truly glad there are people like you who do understand.

Yes. That thread was... intense 😳 You see, apparently, I didn't realise i had to reply in a certain way, and stay on topic, and not discuss how my life experiences related (or not, apparently!) The poster who dismissed my replies told me that I had deviated from the actual topic by discussing disability. I mean, I only mentioned it because the OP had talked about welfare and responsibility to oneself (!) 😅😳😅

Absolutely yes, you're right that my experience didn't line up with theirs. They said in their abrupt reply "It's not always about you, you know." Charming..!

Thank you for understanding. Yes. Those who sound like they are understanding and kind are the ones who matter (and you're one) .❤️

cloudtreecarpet · 19/06/2026 23:36

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:33

Thank you for your kind words. I'm truly glad there are people like you who do understand.

Yes. That thread was... intense 😳 You see, apparently, I didn't realise i had to reply in a certain way, and stay on topic, and not discuss how my life experiences related (or not, apparently!) The poster who dismissed my replies told me that I had deviated from the actual topic by discussing disability. I mean, I only mentioned it because the OP had talked about welfare and responsibility to oneself (!) 😅😳😅

Absolutely yes, you're right that my experience didn't line up with theirs. They said in their abrupt reply "It's not always about you, you know." Charming..!

Thank you for understanding. Yes. Those who sound like they are understanding and kind are the ones who matter (and you're one) .❤️

I genuinely do mean this kindly but if you are in any way sensitive I would avoid AIBU threads at all costs.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:38

cloudtreecarpet · 19/06/2026 23:36

I genuinely do mean this kindly but if you are in any way sensitive I would avoid AIBU threads at all costs.

Yes, absolutely, I should have used my common sense and I regretted replying on that thread 😅 Lesson learned!

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 23:43

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:38

Yes, absolutely, I should have used my common sense and I regretted replying on that thread 😅 Lesson learned!

I'm sure you had good intentions to help people understand when you shared. Some people just don't want to see, for whatever reason, or can't see outside their little world. I'm not sure what it is about some posters here, but they seem to go out of their way to try to be goady or push people's buttons or look for a fight. I tend to think that people who try to bring other people lower feel small and are trying to make themselves feel better by making others feel small too. Or there is something that makes them just not nice people. Either way, it says more about them than you/the person they are attacking. You can't take it personally. Let it wash past you.

Goatsarebest · 19/06/2026 23:53

Every morning our goats run out of their shed full of enthusiasm for the day.
Seriously enjoy their breakfast even though it's just the same as every day, see their field as some great adventure even though they have been in the same field all their lives, have fun chasing each other and play fighting, will sit facing into the sun for hours on their own doing nothing but content in their own company. Sometimes huddle together and sleep. They will give anything a go once and if they like it do it again, if not they don't do it again. They are very sociable and self confident but take no shit of anybody. They are dedicated parents but give their kids extreme independence. They know their place and role in the herd and accept it.
So the Goat attitude to life is:
Get joy in the familiar don't overthink things,
Try new things but don't persist with things you don't like,
Be part of a herd but enjoy being alone,
Take your responsibilities in your herd seriously but dont overburden yourself,
get joy in seeing your children or family gain their independence,
Respect yourself and others and don't be with others that put you down or are negative.
It seems to work for them.

To think life is more of a pain in the arse than it's worth
ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:54

SunIsGreat · 19/06/2026 23:43

I'm sure you had good intentions to help people understand when you shared. Some people just don't want to see, for whatever reason, or can't see outside their little world. I'm not sure what it is about some posters here, but they seem to go out of their way to try to be goady or push people's buttons or look for a fight. I tend to think that people who try to bring other people lower feel small and are trying to make themselves feel better by making others feel small too. Or there is something that makes them just not nice people. Either way, it says more about them than you/the person they are attacking. You can't take it personally. Let it wash past you.

Thank you for your rational, sensible reply. It's great to hear from a poster who is genuinely empathetic and good, unlike that one who didn't care (or want to hear about) people who were giving their own health and life experiences. As you say, they have perhaps not even tried to consider different ways, or they just enjoy the superiority complex.

Yes, I definitely had good intentions, but perhaps it wasn't the thread to add my views! 😳😕

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:55

Goatsarebest · 19/06/2026 23:53

Every morning our goats run out of their shed full of enthusiasm for the day.
Seriously enjoy their breakfast even though it's just the same as every day, see their field as some great adventure even though they have been in the same field all their lives, have fun chasing each other and play fighting, will sit facing into the sun for hours on their own doing nothing but content in their own company. Sometimes huddle together and sleep. They will give anything a go once and if they like it do it again, if not they don't do it again. They are very sociable and self confident but take no shit of anybody. They are dedicated parents but give their kids extreme independence. They know their place and role in the herd and accept it.
So the Goat attitude to life is:
Get joy in the familiar don't overthink things,
Try new things but don't persist with things you don't like,
Be part of a herd but enjoy being alone,
Take your responsibilities in your herd seriously but dont overburden yourself,
get joy in seeing your children or family gain their independence,
Respect yourself and others and don't be with others that put you down or are negative.
It seems to work for them.

Jump Goat GIF

Oh this is FABULOUS! I love it, thank you 😊

Goatsarebest · 19/06/2026 23:58

That's ours in the morning. They kept us going through lockdown. All the bad news then open the shed and you get this reaction. You have to smile.

maudelovesharold · 19/06/2026 23:58

Life is so random. The chances of us ending up here are vanishingly small, so as we’ve made it this far, we might as well do the best we can with it for the nanosecond we’re here. We’re all in the same boat - isn’t that a comfort?

CoffeeAndCats3 · 20/06/2026 00:05

I think it depends a lot on circumstance.

I have always floated through life and been generally happy with the small stuff.
But in the past year I have been hit with sudden hearing loss and screaming tinnitus which is not stable. I have loud ringing in both ears, and what I can only describe as an oscillating droning engine in my right ear. Anytime I hear a fan or the fridge my left ear rumbles along with it. Also, the head pressure, migraines and fullness is far worse than the hearing loss.

Life has gone from 'breezy' to a living hell every day. I struggle with thoughts of ending it all, and now understand anxiety and depression in a way I didn't before.

So your perspective on this can change, based on health challenges in my experience.

SunIsGreat · 20/06/2026 00:37

CoffeeAndCats3 · 20/06/2026 00:05

I think it depends a lot on circumstance.

I have always floated through life and been generally happy with the small stuff.
But in the past year I have been hit with sudden hearing loss and screaming tinnitus which is not stable. I have loud ringing in both ears, and what I can only describe as an oscillating droning engine in my right ear. Anytime I hear a fan or the fridge my left ear rumbles along with it. Also, the head pressure, migraines and fullness is far worse than the hearing loss.

Life has gone from 'breezy' to a living hell every day. I struggle with thoughts of ending it all, and now understand anxiety and depression in a way I didn't before.

So your perspective on this can change, based on health challenges in my experience.

Edited

I'm sorry you're going through that. I hope it can be sorted for you. There are new breakthroughs all the time, which gives me hope for my children. Life really can throw some curve balls at us.

SunIsGreat · 20/06/2026 00:39

maudelovesharold · 19/06/2026 23:58

Life is so random. The chances of us ending up here are vanishingly small, so as we’ve made it this far, we might as well do the best we can with it for the nanosecond we’re here. We’re all in the same boat - isn’t that a comfort?

We're not all in the same boat though. I am really lucky to have a friend I met who has very similar circumstances to me. That makes a lot of difference.

In the end though, while I do talk about things here, I don't tend to talk about it with people in real life. I might have especially challenging circumstances but those are my circumstances. They are part of me but they are not ME. I am still a person outside that. That is what I share with people.

SunIsGreat · 20/06/2026 00:40

Goatsarebest · 19/06/2026 23:53

Every morning our goats run out of their shed full of enthusiasm for the day.
Seriously enjoy their breakfast even though it's just the same as every day, see their field as some great adventure even though they have been in the same field all their lives, have fun chasing each other and play fighting, will sit facing into the sun for hours on their own doing nothing but content in their own company. Sometimes huddle together and sleep. They will give anything a go once and if they like it do it again, if not they don't do it again. They are very sociable and self confident but take no shit of anybody. They are dedicated parents but give their kids extreme independence. They know their place and role in the herd and accept it.
So the Goat attitude to life is:
Get joy in the familiar don't overthink things,
Try new things but don't persist with things you don't like,
Be part of a herd but enjoy being alone,
Take your responsibilities in your herd seriously but dont overburden yourself,
get joy in seeing your children or family gain their independence,
Respect yourself and others and don't be with others that put you down or are negative.
It seems to work for them.

Fabulous. I love it and they are beautiful goats.

Recklessismymiddlename · 20/06/2026 06:22

Greenleavesandsunshine · 19/06/2026 21:55

My grandmothers were born into grinding poverty. Left school at 13, worked in mills, 10 hour days. No contraception, no NHS, women couldn’t vote.
I am very aware of how very, very lucky I am. Perhaps, consider how lucky you are rather than whine about the ‘drudge’ of a life free from the fear of TB, poverty, the workhouse or war.

Yes I don’t disagree however I’m being kept alive/going by a concoction of various medications (20 tablets a day prescribed). How is that normal? I’m in my 60’s. It’s likely to get worse. Imagine what that is probably doing to my insides. It’s probably no wonder Ive got gut issues! I got stopped at airport security recently due to the amount of medication. I mean it’s all prescription so there was no issue but it needs its own container.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 20/06/2026 08:10

I’ve had cancer recently, treatment 5 months from diagnosis to being told I’m sorted. Even, 20 years ago I’d probably have died. I can choose to be distressed and horrified I’ve had cancer, or I can pleased the NHS has sorted me out, I’m not bankrupt like I might be in the USA and I’m not dead.

People keep telling me, it must have been awful, but I’m just relieved and grateful.
You have a choice.

OutsideLookingOut · 20/06/2026 08:34

Greenleavesandsunshine · 20/06/2026 08:10

I’ve had cancer recently, treatment 5 months from diagnosis to being told I’m sorted. Even, 20 years ago I’d probably have died. I can choose to be distressed and horrified I’ve had cancer, or I can pleased the NHS has sorted me out, I’m not bankrupt like I might be in the USA and I’m not dead.

People keep telling me, it must have been awful, but I’m just relieved and grateful.
You have a choice.

Congratulations on surviving cancer. I'm happy you are happy to be here and doing well! I agree, we are so fortunate to have social healthcare.

However some people on this thread would see it as a relief if they passed away... we are all different. You can be grateful to have survived something awful but also think... well if I had died that would not be too bad either.

Think of it like this, someone gives you something you do not really want, it doesn't matter how nice it is... you may feel grateful, honoured etc etc but at the end of the day, you don't want it. You don't have to be miserable either, I think that is a common misconception about people who feel this way.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 20/06/2026 08:38

@OutsideLookingOut To be honest I wasn’t scared of dying, I was worried for my family. While I wasn’t scared of dying, I’m glad to be alive. I can smell the grass, a cool summers morning when the day will be hot, a nice cup of tea, I can only enjoy these because I’m not dead. So I am choosing to enjoy them.

OutsideLookingOut · 20/06/2026 08:59

Greenleavesandsunshine · 20/06/2026 08:38

@OutsideLookingOut To be honest I wasn’t scared of dying, I was worried for my family. While I wasn’t scared of dying, I’m glad to be alive. I can smell the grass, a cool summers morning when the day will be hot, a nice cup of tea, I can only enjoy these because I’m not dead. So I am choosing to enjoy them.

I understand! The only difference is that while I can enjoy those things I often just wish not to be burdened by being alive. But I think it is a great strategy, no matter where you fall in this discussion, to try to enjoy any little thing you can. I mean we are here so why make ourselves and other people miserable? That is my thinking anyway. Yet I cannot deny if there was a painless way to just fade away, and no guilt about those I'd leave behind it would be such a relief.

EvieBB · 21/06/2026 00:25

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 19/06/2026 23:33

Thank you for your kind words. I'm truly glad there are people like you who do understand.

Yes. That thread was... intense 😳 You see, apparently, I didn't realise i had to reply in a certain way, and stay on topic, and not discuss how my life experiences related (or not, apparently!) The poster who dismissed my replies told me that I had deviated from the actual topic by discussing disability. I mean, I only mentioned it because the OP had talked about welfare and responsibility to oneself (!) 😅😳😅

Absolutely yes, you're right that my experience didn't line up with theirs. They said in their abrupt reply "It's not always about you, you know." Charming..!

Thank you for understanding. Yes. Those who sound like they are understanding and kind are the ones who matter (and you're one) .❤️

There are a lot of a$$holes in this world unfortunately.....no wonder some of us get depressed! It's not you. It's them! Try not to take it to heart....xx

EvieBB · 21/06/2026 00:30

CoffeeAndCats3 · 20/06/2026 00:05

I think it depends a lot on circumstance.

I have always floated through life and been generally happy with the small stuff.
But in the past year I have been hit with sudden hearing loss and screaming tinnitus which is not stable. I have loud ringing in both ears, and what I can only describe as an oscillating droning engine in my right ear. Anytime I hear a fan or the fridge my left ear rumbles along with it. Also, the head pressure, migraines and fullness is far worse than the hearing loss.

Life has gone from 'breezy' to a living hell every day. I struggle with thoughts of ending it all, and now understand anxiety and depression in a way I didn't before.

So your perspective on this can change, based on health challenges in my experience.

Edited

God I'm so sorry. How awful. A friend of mine had a similar issue. I pray they find a cure for you xx

LinedOverLatte · 21/06/2026 00:39

Violinorbanjo · 18/06/2026 23:10

You are making an amazing observation for which I thank Jesus who said: we are not of this world and are citizens of Heaven and the life we live now is just a prelude for the real life in Heaven

Exactly this. We can all have a perfect eternal life, praise Jesus 🙌🏼

KateSixer · 21/06/2026 00:52

God what a load of self indulgent tripe on this thread

Life is what you make it! Yes, you, you are in charge of your life.

And even if, in the moment, it's a bit shit; you can still find enjoyment. Sunshine on a park bench, a pretty flower, a reflection on times past.

Life is for living (and no point in saying that no human in history has, on average, lived a better life than in available now!).

BettyJoanPerske · 21/06/2026 00:53

KateSixer · 21/06/2026 00:52

God what a load of self indulgent tripe on this thread

Life is what you make it! Yes, you, you are in charge of your life.

And even if, in the moment, it's a bit shit; you can still find enjoyment. Sunshine on a park bench, a pretty flower, a reflection on times past.

Life is for living (and no point in saying that no human in history has, on average, lived a better life than in available now!).

Hear hear! No wonder these people are depressed, all they do is whine all day long.

Uppitymuppity · 21/06/2026 00:59

I agree op