Not all men, but always men

[Amodernhistory]

Driving home from work tonight to the main news stories on the radio being 1) man tortures adopted baby to death and 2) man arrested after child ends up in crocodile enclosure at zoo.

I am absolutely sick of the daily onslaught of problematic men, monsters, committing outrages. That’s all, no suggestions, just AIBU to be sickened by this constant stream of beasts who live amongst us (Gisele Pelicot’s husband, recent terrorist attacks, daily murders of women by men) combined with personal experiences of men who ‘you wouldn’t have thought it to look at him’ turning out to be sex pests and paedophiles is putting me right off them as a sex class. Not your man, not your son, not my (lovely) Dad, but all the other men… how do we know which ones?

Its hard not to conclude it’s a man problem.

If they were a breed of dog they’d be banned.

Yes , I read about it today. Three women have come forward.

The problem is though is that it seems men ( on the whole, again, not all men), do not appear to have the same visceral anger about this issue ( male violence) as women do. Until we hear other men speaking out about this in the same terms and with the same frequency as women, nothing will change. Writing to an MP can be done, of course, but women need to be able to share how this is making them feel, and this is often done by talking to each other, even via social media sites like this. There are drawbacks for sure, but keeping low key and polite isn’t going to cut it.

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97% of violent crime is committed by men.

I've said this today on here I'll say it again. No one is saying women don't murder.

But I'm pretty sure I've never heard of a case of a baby fucking orally raped to death by a woman.

Men don’t feel safe to express their feelings because of other men.

And for high security prisons, the difference is even more stark: the vast majority of female prisoners have been convicted of non violent crimes such as fraud or theft.

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.Margaret Atwood

There’s not ‘a fair few’ - the numbers are vastly different. I’m curious though @Jellycatspyjamas why you felt that was the best response to what is a very fair post about being exhausted by the scale of violence committed against women and children by men. Do you the NAMALTS give you a pat on the head? Tell you you’re not like other girls? Defending men by trying to make false equivalence will not save you.

I completely agree with this statement, as I first stated in my earlier post. But any discussion of this nature will always end up in one big argument.
I think we have sleep walked into where we are now. I know it has always happened but not on the scale it has reached now. I believe there are many factors involved, but nothing and no-one is ultimately to blame except for the person carrying out the act.

Baby P, there were two men who participated in the abuse and along with Peter's mother were convicted of causing or allowing the death of a child. One of the males was convicted at a later trial of raping a two year old
Victoria Climbe murdered by her great aunt and the aunt's boyfriend
Arthur Labinjo-Hughes, his step mother was convicted of murder and his father was convicted of manslaughter
Star Hobson was killed by her mother's girlfriend who got 25 years and the mother herself got 12 years for causing or allowing the death of a child. So in all but one of these horrific and devastating cases men were equally culpable. Not that this in any way mitigates or excuses the vile actions of the women but there were men who not only did nothing to protect these poor children, they activelyparticipated in the crimes

I wouldn’t go out alone in some places in the UK, but the colour of the man’s skin isn’t the reason why.

I was SA’d by an Asian man in my teens, that doesn’t mean I now think all Asian men will SA someone.

Stop using excuses to be a bigot, just admit you are racist and own it.

Sorry haven't read whole thread but informed by Google that 4% of the prison population are women. The figures speak for themselves.

You simply can't help yourself can you? It's like every opportunity. Ding ding, Pavlov's dog.

It still isn’t all men but always a man. You are just reiterating the same problem but making it about race. How many different ways do you need it explaining. If you make it about race you are making it a race issues rather than a man issue - it is still a man issue.

You can’t either.

It’s not all men when your agenda suits apparently.

You’re protecting certain sectors of the male population when it doesn’t suit your narrative.

Why are you making things up? Why are you grasping at straws?
Why are you insinuating the police don’t charge women with crimes?

Most children are harmed by a biologically unrelated male living in their home.By a huge margin.

Apologies, I didn’t fact check and didn’t want to overstate.

I can do nothing but to agree on everything you have said. Well written.
I'm a bloke, and it disgusts me how some men behave, but it also disgusts me how some women behave. ( I have personal experience).

Of course, but go look at crime statistics for violent and sexual offences.

There is absolutely NO parity there.

And when men are victims of violent crime the perpetrator will almost always be male especially if it is a random act of violence. When I go on our local paper's website the news is a depressing litany of robberies, stabbings, rapes and sexual assaults, domestic violence, fights in town, and burglaries.

baby P was murdered by a man. He was murdered by the mother’s boyfriend.

it’s interesting that you remember the mother being involved rather than the man who actually killed him. His mother, Tracey Connolly was convicted a
of allowing the abuse to be done to Baby P.

When women are involved in a murder it is more likely to be reported in the media due to its unusualness and because it goes against the perception of women in society. This skews the perception of the number of female murderers to make murderers.

So all women’s issues whether that be health, economics, education etc are the same no matter their race? Seems a bit narrow minded to not try and further delve into issues and notice trends and issues because it’s uncomfortable.

Some on here are saying that stats show that when the World Cup is on, DV rates go up. I’m presuming that’s predominantly a western issue and white men are over represented in the stats (haven’t seen the stats so making an assumption).

So race is important as is the culture (in this case football) to tackle the issue head on. By knowing this you can ask sporting bodies to do more to tackle education as part of the sport to prevent issues.

Basic logic really. Bleating ‘all men’ whilst trying to ignore any research or evidence into the different crimes types, perp characteristics etc is just blind ignorance and chatting random slogans that are going to bring no outcome for us. We know it’s men, now we need to delve deeper even if it upsets you.

Another thread where you call any woman who disagrees with you hysterical.

Same ole misogynistic clap trap most men use when they can’t out debate a woman.

Next you’ll be telling me to make you a sandwich.