Not all men, but always men

[Amodernhistory]

Driving home from work tonight to the main news stories on the radio being 1) man tortures adopted baby to death and 2) man arrested after child ends up in crocodile enclosure at zoo.

I am absolutely sick of the daily onslaught of problematic men, monsters, committing outrages. That’s all, no suggestions, just AIBU to be sickened by this constant stream of beasts who live amongst us (Gisele Pelicot’s husband, recent terrorist attacks, daily murders of women by men) combined with personal experiences of men who ‘you wouldn’t have thought it to look at him’ turning out to be sex pests and paedophiles is putting me right off them as a sex class. Not your man, not your son, not my (lovely) Dad, but all the other men… how do we know which ones?

Its hard not to conclude it’s a man problem.

but women on women still happens in all women institution's etc so even then they are not safe from each other

This doesn't take account of the sheer scale of male violence. So much safer with women.

most likely true points,

Rubbish. Unicef states that 95,000 children are killed globally per annum. Of those under 5 years old 61% (according the FBI research) are at the hands of their parents - the split is 43% by mothers, 57 by fathers (US justice Dept research). Of all children as a class (0-16y) they are more likely to be killed by a parent or step parent, and there is increased risk where the infant is under 1 year, the family is from a low economic demographic and there are other socio-economic indicators (NSPCC). In the UK, 37% of perpetrators have mental health issues - bipolar, schzophrenia and other MH conditions inducing psychosis. This was more prevalent in the mothers (Uni of Manchester, and a Swedish study also).

So, to repeat and further clarify. Your claim above is complete and utter b*llocks.

Oh yes, so true. THREE of the men in my life have been beaten up by groups of men on a night out, when they happened to be alone. Outside a nightclub, in the men's, and at a bowling alley. The attacks were completely unprovoked. I don't know what the answer is. Better funding for clubs and activities for young men would help, I'm sure, but there never seems to be money for things like that.

Yes, Baby P came to mind here. His mother was there the whole time and allowed a sustained and extended campaign of violence against that poor, adorable sweetheart.

It should also be said that mothers who murder their children are often either a. Seriously mentally ill or b. Have high care needs children they can’t cope with, don’t reach out for support and then kill them & sometimes themselves as well.

While men who kill their children tend to be a. Family annihilators or b. Abusive to the whole family.

Totally agree @DimwittedSkater The men in my life have been quite lucky so far, although my brother had a knife pulled on him by another man many years ago - at the time both my brother and the other man were teenagers.

The same brother was a youth worker some years later and so was his girlfriend (who later became his wife). Both are now in other occupations since all the local youth clubs closed down (under the Tory government if I remember correctly). It was very short-sighted of the govt to defund those resources IMO. For lots of young people (especially boys) they were places where they could be occupied in safe and healthy ways, and where they could see some good role models which some didn’t have at home.

I worry for my son as much as for my daughter re male violence, as my daughter is gay and spends most of her time with women- I accept that she is at still at risk from male strangers but I think women are more at risk from men they know than male strangers, whereas men are more at risk from male strangers.

@Musney your stats, like you point, are rubbish. At least do some research before trying to make women out to be dangers.

If you are trying to make a half arsed statement about abortion you are even more pathetic but reminds me to make a point about how many pregnancies come about due to rape, and as a control tactic inflicted by men. Domestic partners tend to be the biggest terrorists in a woman’s life and that is every bit as abusive as stranger violence.

@Kingfisherfly asked ‘where are all the cases where a woman was the only perpetrator?’

You’ve named one- is that ‘all the cases’? (At any rate, there is considerable doubt over LL’s conviction)

I am SICK of it. I can't even watch TV shows I used to like - crime, gangster dramas and the like - because I am so sick of every other scene being some poor woman being brutalised.

Someone switch the fucking men OFF AND ON AGAIN!

There’s more than one… there’s at least one more historical and the one prosecuted this year.

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/press/releases/2025/November/137-women-and-girls-killed-every-day-by-intimate-partners-or-family-members-in-2024.html

I rest your case

Women do as well, recent cases Emma Tustin who tortured and killed little Arthur, the 2 gay Women who killed little Star Hobson, one black woman on tv today who just got done for manslaughter going back to 1978, so it's a majority of men but women do too and in many cases the punishment is not severe enough for the suffering inflicted on those poor innocent children.

I disagree it's not always men!

Vast vast majority are men. The vast majority.

And yet, I've seen men thought to be more important and taken more seriously than women, throughout my life. I'm 64.
I'm still trying to figure out why.

Obviously this post has gone away as its not always men
But it is absolutely nearly always men and I too am sick to death of the vile headlines, every,single, day

*awry

What fathers. You need sperm to make a baby that doesn’t mean there is a father.

But “those men” had to be raised by…..

slightly OTT but I’m currently stumped as to why two, 2 parent families with male children/teens in our small road haven't bothered to teach them how to cook and clean.

The youngest is 12, the oldest is 17. absolutely no frigging clue. One of the mum’s was recently out of action with a broken arm, the house was a pig sty yet no help forthcoming from the males inside. Yet she raised them..

I don’t agree with looking back to apportion blame, but it’s got to have come from somewhere and I don’t believe it’s a gender issue. IMO.

I feel like this so much and my DH hates it when I bring it up. I think it’s because he feels responsible I honestly think things won’t improve until as a society we openly accept that we have a “man problem” yet also recognise that it’s not all men and that men are an important part of the solution. I worry about my DD’s growing up and yet I don’t worry about the men that Reform and the press consistently tell me I should be worried about. As statistic show that the amount of press attention these cases get compared to similar case by a white British male is disproportionate. I worry about the boys in their class and in their schools as statistically these “men” are more likely to cause them a problem. My friends DD14 has already been SA’d by her 14 year old BF it just makes me so so sad. Just think about all those cases as well where no body says anything. I’ve only just admittedly to myself that I was SA’d 20 years ago, I tried to forget, tried to pretend it never happened and I am sure I am not the only person who has done that.

Not if they’re young rapists and going to prison would spoil their lives. I know it’s going to appeal but what a message to society!

Go look up the cdc figures on abuse and abortion, 75 million per year, 25 million purely for convenience

We have countless methods od contraception but won't take responsibility for outlr actions and demand murder as a right for convenience, it's shameful

Probably because men organise, run and create society. They create everything in modern life that makes our lives lovely and they are the ones who give their lives to defend it. And what do we do, moan, it's sucha stereotype and embarrassing