Not all men, but always men

[Amodernhistory]

Driving home from work tonight to the main news stories on the radio being 1) man tortures adopted baby to death and 2) man arrested after child ends up in crocodile enclosure at zoo.

I am absolutely sick of the daily onslaught of problematic men, monsters, committing outrages. That’s all, no suggestions, just AIBU to be sickened by this constant stream of beasts who live amongst us (Gisele Pelicot’s husband, recent terrorist attacks, daily murders of women by men) combined with personal experiences of men who ‘you wouldn’t have thought it to look at him’ turning out to be sex pests and paedophiles is putting me right off them as a sex class. Not your man, not your son, not my (lovely) Dad, but all the other men… how do we know which ones?

Its hard not to conclude it’s a man problem.

Yep she was so desperate to have any bloke in her life that she turned up the volume on the TV so she didn't have to hear Peter's screams, it's just so so awful. Unfortunately the monsterous pig that killed Baby P is now free I believe, that makes me fucking angry but that's another thread

I dont care call it what you want women don't want to think other women do wrong, we all know it is a delusion

That case broke me. His name was/is Peter.

It’s not obstinacy, is it?

I didn’t know this. That has broken my heart as a Mother.

I really think the death penalty has to come back as what good does having that man walking free do? How will he ever be useful in society?

Absolutely. I was coming here to say this. The number of women committing extreme crimes is overwhelmingly outbalanced by the sheer magnitude of men committing them worldwide.

Didn’t take long for someone to pop up with this comment.

I agree with you OP. And it is fact, it’s not all men, but it’s mostly men.

I know that. he would have turned 20 in March :(

No one is saying women dont do wrong. What we are saying is the wrong that we do is a tiny percent of wrong that men do. And if men only matched the percent of wrong doing that women did.....crime would literally not exist.

Well, as many of us are aware, men do post on here sometimes. (And that was almost certainly a man who made that comment early on - on the first page of the thread....)

I really cannot imagine any woman saying 'oh but WOMEN are awful sometimes too!'

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Well, so what?

Exactly. And if a few posters want to talk about the VERY SMALL MINORITY of women who are 'bad' they can start their own thread. I'm not responding to any of the 'yeah but yeah but WOMEN' posts any longer.

JFC are you DUMB?

We women KNOW that other women are capable of violence and murder? WE KNOW THAT!

The point is, that men are staggeringly more likely to be abusers and murderers. 10 times more likely! It is factual.

Violence against women and girls by men is an epidemic!

Why are choosing to ignore this?

I’m so sick of seeing men and women rush when it’s stated that it’s mostly men, it is. It’s fact. There’s so much data to back it up. It’s overwhelmingly men that rape, sexually harass women, are violent to other men and women.
why we have to caveat with yes woman can be awful too all the time to make men feel better I don’t know. Yes some women have and will do terrible things, but the numbers compared to men? It’s not even a fucking comparison.
even more disappointing when women say stuff like this.

What do you mean, ‘So what?’ Isn’t it glaringly obvious?

ETA Having just seen your subsequent post, I think I may owe you an apology!

This is total bollocks. Why do you think journalists (an industry still run by men) would miss stories of ‘all bad women’. The opposite actually happens. When I see a woman in court I go to the case because it’s so unusual, which in and of itself makes it newsworthy.

I just did a quick tally of the people in my crown court this week. 74 men, no women. The mags will have slightly more women because they commit a higher proportion of low level traffic offences than any other crime, and they’re dealt with in the mags. But I bet it’s still less than 10 per cent who are women.

It's quite annoying isn't it? Do they really not get it? Or are they just being deliberately obtuse?

I live in France and myself and 4 expat mums and our children all live in our little commune. We 4 have been mistreated/abused. We all have our children (8 girls) full time.
Between us we bought a run down manoir . The children are happy and all go to the local school. We mothers support each other and are our own village. I don’t know what I’m adding to this conversation. Perhaps quietly we are standing up to a life without men.

Agreed. 'The news is missing stories of all the bad women! That would even it up a bit?!'

That's tooooo funny! 😂 That poster is reaching so far that the moon hit her on the head!

I do agree it’s mostly men but I do just want to have a one line vent.
I have met some horrendous mothers. Some people are just beyond redemption.

This. No one is saying that women can't be violent, or can't be sadistic abusers, but the reality is that women who do those things are a tiny minority in comparison to the number of men who do them.

People can argue all they like that women can be bad too, and that not all men are bad, and both things are true...but the statistics don't lie. It is factual that if all men stopped committing crimes tomorrow, then we'd be living in a near-utopia compared to how things are now.

Where were the fathers?

Aw no @MrFlintstone did I hurt your feelings? Are you wound up now to the point of doing something extreme?

Let me guess you’re one of the good ones? So you’re only telling women to stop starting these threads in case a man is wound up into doing something extreme for our own good?

Not only can I read, I can understand mansplaining. Stand where you want but until you have the same outrage and insults for the perpetrators of violence as you do for women on threads about the perpetrators of violence, you won’t be standing on the same side as me. Off you pop to the forums where men discuss their hatred of women to give them the same lectures.

I think men are significantly more likely (than women) to go bad and when they do they cause more damage.
I'd say the majority of men are decent. The problematic men are a minority but they have a large effect and that makes them seem more numerous.

Just think about the enormous monetary costs of male crime. Billions, in policing, court procedures, jailing.