Not all men, but always men

[Amodernhistory]

Driving home from work tonight to the main news stories on the radio being 1) man tortures adopted baby to death and 2) man arrested after child ends up in crocodile enclosure at zoo.

I am absolutely sick of the daily onslaught of problematic men, monsters, committing outrages. That’s all, no suggestions, just AIBU to be sickened by this constant stream of beasts who live amongst us (Gisele Pelicot’s husband, recent terrorist attacks, daily murders of women by men) combined with personal experiences of men who ‘you wouldn’t have thought it to look at him’ turning out to be sex pests and paedophiles is putting me right off them as a sex class. Not your man, not your son, not my (lovely) Dad, but all the other men… how do we know which ones?

Its hard not to conclude it’s a man problem.

YouTube female rage against retail workers, then tell me all women are angels

Haha, no you didn't hurt my feelings, and I'm not wound up. I'm just as relaxed as I normally am.
You don't know me, I don't know you. It is what it is.

The zoo this happened at is just down the road from me. Have taken my daughter a couple of times. It's awful, that poor little boy and his parents 😢

Nobody said all women. Fool.

I think that all the women saying that they are surrounded by lovely, good men, their husbands, sons , family members being wonderful exceptions would be up for surprise if we somehow invented a machine that scans men’s brains for their real thoughts. Or even if we had a hidden camera following all these „good” men or a 100% access to their internet history. Or if all laws regarding violence, sexual abuse, murder etc were removed , I wonder how many of these good men would show their real face.
in theory I am surrounded by normal, nice men. There is something that makes distrust all of them though, I often wonder what they are really capable of.
I know it is sad,

How would you define majority? How do you know? You don’t know.

I think it's important to talk about these issues. Yes, actual action needs to be taken in the real world, but it's often conversations like this that prompt people to do things like write to their MPs, etc.

Although really, what could one write to their MP? 'Men commit 95+% of all crime, please stop it from happening'?

It has ever been thus, since the beginning of human history - is it even something that can be eradicated? Or is this male behaviour an inevitability? Hopefully it can be reduced greatly at least, but even so, it would be a monumental task to do it, involving radical changes right throughout the entirety of society. Forget eating an elephant, it's more like trying to change the orbit of the moon.

Also: It's not women discussing male violence that causes 'divides' - that's the fault of the men committing the male violence in the first place.

Secondly: What stupid thing do you think someone would do after reading this thread?

yep a fool i am, and your point is

If every man left the country then violent crime would be miniscule, it would likely almost disappear. Not only are the overwhelming majority of perpetrators male, but the majority of the small percentage of female perpetrators offend as an accomplice to a man, very often an extremely abusive controlling partner.

I'm hoping that they are both served prison justice.

Every day.

Every single fucking day.

I agree with what you say.

It’s not just one on one violence, it’s starting wars. How many women start wars? Umm maybe Thatcher didn’t need to go to war with Argentina over the Falklands. And there was Boudicca. But I can’t really think of any others. Men are responsible for nearly all of the world’s evils I believe. YANBU OP.

Well, 'twas ever thus. But over the time humans have existed, who had the babies that survived? Not the women who said living with men was impossible! Maybe that group bred themselves out of the population.

And we would train and coach the sons not to entertain violence.

And so on.

End the history of violence that has been created by men

Why the leap on the back of a shared experience covering court? I mean, why? Nobody says all women are angels.

I think your argument is defeated by the fact that you had to go back 26 years to reference the death of Victoria Climbie. I could probably find you a number of children murdered by men by going back 26 weeks. Possibly even less.

Quite. I wonder what they say when up the pub with their mates and no wives/girlfriends next to them.

My own brothers, who in front of mum would behave, seemed decent, normal. They jokingly 'sold' my virginity up the pub when I was with them aged 13 with their mates. Their mates took part with it, bidding. I've heard them talk about women being 'slags, goers (yeah, go figure), face like they're chewing a wasp, wouldn't say no to a go on that one, beer goggles and how ugly they were in the morning etc etc. The fact one brother while talking about another brother was only married to his 'horrific wife because she gave good head (how he knows?!). The derogatory, sexist way they talk about women was there i their 20's, it's still there in their 50's and 60's.

I think too so many women have experienced this kind of thing and much worse. I don't trust men. I'm with a seemingly lovely one but who actually flipping knows? I see the side he wants me to see.

And quite often those women committing fraud or theft are doing it because of a man. To feed his drink/drug habits or keep her children fed & housed while the father pays little or nothing towards their upkeep.

I wonder if the men in pubs get the same ''if you dont think like all men you must be a women'' like we get on here if all women don't post the same they are accused of being a man

You mean if they don't give into peer pressure?

Am sorry, every person is an adult, capable of doing the right thing. Perhaps these good men who genuinely don't want to hear this kind of shit put their friends into place? Or find better friends? Nothing will change without men wanting it to change and that's the problem.

Er, no because they'd be sitting across the table and can see if they're men.

You have to take a good deal on trust on MN and there has, over time, been evidence of men coming on threads to disrupt.

Umm, and why did Boudicca start up against the Romans? Because the bastards RAPED her daughters and flogged her!!! I'd be absolutely LIVID if the same thing had happened to me. Men again 🤬

And just think of this, does anyone on here really know who's on here, how do you know that someone might be reading this thread, get wound up, then do something stupid, might sound extreme, but you just never know

So women are to blame in your hypothetical scenario, @MrFlintstone . She made me do it.

Spare me the bollocks about "someone" being non-gendered.

And guess what else? If you Google "I hate my husband," there are about 406 million results.

But if you Google "I hate my wife" there are about 600 million results.

Says it all, really. Men resent us far more than we resent them. I wonder why.

Ok not all men. But I think what would help immensely is if all the men who aren't spoke up loud and clear all the time against the men who are. Why don't they?