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Ex partner introduced our son to a “friend he’s taking things slow with”

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Pinkie89 · Today 09:16

Ex partner introduced our son (7) to a “friend he’s taking things slow with”.
AIBU to think this is abnormal and concerning? Honestly I’m so angry and he’s completely betrayed my trust. I asked him out right who this girl was 2 weeks ago after my son mentioned her and whether it was someone he was dating and he said no it’s a friend, a few days later he’s posting her on Instagram and evidently she’s not just a friend.
I don’t think he’s known her long, they spent the last 2 Saturdays together, with my son. In my eyes that is not taking it slow and he shouldn’t be introducing him to people he’s know 5 mins! He’s done this once before and it ended within a month and my son is still upset he doesn’t get to see her dogs… 2 years later! Now he’s excited about this ones cats! My mum introduced me to lots of men which really wasn’t nice so I don’t know if this is clouding my judgement? But I would never introduce him to someone I was “taking it slow with”.

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Ablondiebutagoody · Today 11:25

It is you that introduced the idea of them dating to your son.

OneThreadOnlybyN · Today 11:26

Pinkie89 · Today 10:25

Ok he can introduce him to whoever he likes… murderers, predators, drug users and it would be none of my business because he’s not with me at that time? You can’t be serious?

You're being ridiculous now. If you thought your son was in danger you could do something about it, but he's nott, she's a girlfriend not a murderer.

Pinkie89 · Today 11:29

Ablondiebutagoody · Today 11:25

It is you that introduced the idea of them dating to your son.

Did I? When did I say that exactly?

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Pinkie89 · Today 11:30

SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:19

You’re saying her child’s safety is the important thing in the world, and must be protected at any cost? What dramatic nonsense.

Of course I’ll protect my child’s safety at any cost. Are you saying you wouldn’t?

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PollyBell · Today 11:32

Pinkie89 · Today 11:30

Of course I’ll protect my child’s safety at any cost. Are you saying you wouldn’t?

You dont own your child they are not a possession they have 2 parents

SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:34

Pinkie89 · Today 11:30

Of course I’ll protect my child’s safety at any cost. Are you saying you wouldn’t?

Not if they committed a crime, and it meant lying to protect them from being sent to prison. And we know you take a very dim view of lying.

Pinkie89 · Today 11:36

SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:34

Not if they committed a crime, and it meant lying to protect them from being sent to prison. And we know you take a very dim view of lying.

Well of course not, but he’s 7. He’s obviously the child in this situation and I don’t expect him to commit any crimes anytime soon.

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MrsCompayson · Today 11:37

SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:19

You’re saying her child’s safety is the important thing in the world, and must be protected at any cost? What dramatic nonsense.

Can I ask how old are your kids?

To me yes and amazingly to most parents I imagine their child's safety is the most important thing???!!

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 11:38

Pinkie89 · Today 11:30

Of course I’ll protect my child’s safety at any cost. Are you saying you wouldn’t?

But to apply it to this situation:

There's no real evidence of there being a safety concern, but you want to try and restrict your ex's right to parent as he sees fit.

In my mind there is an imbalance in that.

It's not like your DC has even suffered yet from missing an ex girlfriend or being sad about something in the relationship. It's all just potential.

Pinkie89 · Today 11:38

PollyBell · Today 11:32

You dont own your child they are not a possession they have 2 parents

What does protecting my child’s safety have to do with owning him? What an odd statement.
I can’t believe there are parents that wouldn’t protect their 7 year old child’s safety at all costs!

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SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:39

Pinkie89 · Today 11:36

Well of course not, but he’s 7. He’s obviously the child in this situation and I don’t expect him to commit any crimes anytime soon.

Ultimately, the best way to keep your child safe is to prevent his father from ever having any stranger in his house or, better still, having him live with you permanently. So, if you want to protect your child at any cost, presumably you'll do this?

SnappyUmberLion · Today 11:40

MrsCompayson · Today 11:37

Can I ask how old are your kids?

To me yes and amazingly to most parents I imagine their child's safety is the most important thing???!!

21 and 24. Yes, their safety is paramount. But not at any cost.

Pinkie89 · Today 11:42

ClaudiaWankleman · Today 11:38

But to apply it to this situation:

There's no real evidence of there being a safety concern, but you want to try and restrict your ex's right to parent as he sees fit.

In my mind there is an imbalance in that.

It's not like your DC has even suffered yet from missing an ex girlfriend or being sad about something in the relationship. It's all just potential.

I don’t agree with how he has handled it and I have expressed that to him but at no point have I tried to restrict him from doing anything. It’s already done now, there’s nothing to restrict. I do hope he will be more mindful in future though and not introduce our son to someone he has known 2 weeks.

He hasn’t suffered yet with this one, but he did with the last.

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PollyBell · Today 11:42

Pinkie89 · Today 11:38

What does protecting my child’s safety have to do with owning him? What an odd statement.
I can’t believe there are parents that wouldn’t protect their 7 year old child’s safety at all costs!

So how do you in your own life guarantee you do this 100% of the time, you posting style to me comes across as really odd and dramatic

OneThreadOnlybyN · Today 11:43

Pinkie89 · Today 10:50

Of course I’m the jealous ex for raising concerns about my son.. how predictable.

I can assure you I wouldn’t go back there in a million years, spending a few hours with him on the odd occasion is more than enough. I do not want a man child, that can’t pay his way (would rather gamble his money than pay bills or spending it on our son), recently borrowed money off his mum and has been ignoring her for 2 months because he’s not paid it back, sells our son the dream to let him down, doesn’t see his other child (blamed the mum, saw her for me, now he hasn’t seen her since we broke up), doesn’t pay anything towards his din (apart from £30 on two occasions in the 6 years we haven’t been together), when we were together he would get mad when I went to the gym or had male friends. I could go on and on but does that sound like a catch to you? Because it sure as hell doesn’t to me! So I can assure you everything I have done to maintain my friendship with him is for my sons sake, I don’t want him having the life I had… no father and many of my mums “friends” popping in and out.

I don’t want him having the life I had… no father and many of my mums “friends” popping in and out

well you can achieve that by MYOB about your ex's live life & causing arguments when your sin us perfectly happy when he sees hus Dad. And not having men in & out yourself. I appreciate you don't, but you have every weekend to yourself.

TheJuicyLucy · Today 11:46

Back off. Your ex partner does not owe you complete transparency about his personal life. He might make some decisions which you would have made differently. That is the reality of parenting after separation. Consider getting your son a pet if your circumstances allow it.

dinoderry · Today 11:51

OneThreadOnlybyN · Today 11:23

safeguarding? Who do you get permission from before introducing your children to people?

I was responding to this part of the comment: “He gets to decide on his time and you have no say and no right to any information- it’s none of your business”.

I said “where’s the safeguarding here?” because the comment is plainly ridiculous. Of course it’s her business. It’s her child.

I wouldn’t let my child stay anywhere unless I knew where they were staying and who they would be staying with. That is basic safeguarding. I’m not saying I have to know that individual personally, but I would at least need to know their name, their relationship to my child and if there are any relevant factors i.e previous children removed by social services, known criminal record etc.

Several of my family members work in child protection, and I have dabbled on the legal side. Having information about your child is plainly important.

Pinkie89 · Today 11:54

PollyBell · Today 11:42

So how do you in your own life guarantee you do this 100% of the time, you posting style to me comes across as really odd and dramatic

Obviously no one can guarantee their child’s safety 100% of the time. To me, ensuring my child’s safety at all costs means 100% of the time where I can reasonably, and have the ability, to do so. For me, it means putting his safety before my own. It means keeping him from harmful situations where it is reasonable to do so. It does not mean keeping him from his father and locking him in the house, away from all people or situations that could harm him in the very literal sense of keeping him 100% safe, because let’s face it, that’s very extreme and not at all reasonable or in the best interests of my son. You can never reasonably ensure 100% safety, and that isn’t what protecting his safety at all costs means to me.

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vanessashanessa99 · Today 11:56

Maybe he lied to your face about it because

  1. Of how you'd react
  2. He think it's really not your business.

His dad has obviously moved on and is comfortable that she is a decent person to be around him. Unless she starts causing issues for your son or his dad starts reducing the time he sees him bc of her there is nothing else you can do.

FeelingSadToday1 · Today 11:59

It is annoying OP but there is nothing you can do. My sons dad is the same. Third woman in so many months and son (nearly 8) just rolls his eyes and says dad has another new “friend”

Pinkie89 · Today 12:00

vanessashanessa99 · Today 11:56

Maybe he lied to your face about it because

  1. Of how you'd react
  2. He think it's really not your business.

His dad has obviously moved on and is comfortable that she is a decent person to be around him. Unless she starts causing issues for your son or his dad starts reducing the time he sees him bc of her there is nothing else you can do.

He’d known her 2 weeks, how can you possibly know a person well enough in that time to know she’s a “decent” person. In those two weeks, given he has our son on weekends, works during the week and has to sleep he can’t have spent much time with her.

I know there’s nothing I can do, that wasn’t the question.

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Mapleunicorn · Today 12:01

Pinkie89 · Today 11:24

Thank you 🙏 I’m really shocked by some of these replies. How can some women turn a blind eye to the care of their child just because they’re not physically with them at the time. Like the moment my son leaves me I’m meant to not give a damn? That’s insane to me!

Yes it would have been nice to have been told. I’m surprised he didn't tell me the truth but I think he probably knows it’s too early for them to have met.

Fully agree I can’t control or stop him and I don’t intend to, it’s already happened. I have raised my concerns with him and he’s changing his story about who this girl is. I don’t like the lies, that makes me uncomfortable.

This entire thread is insane!

Apparently:

  1. It’s weird to follow your ex on insta. You clearly haven’t moved on. (We don’t all have a visceral hatred for our ex?)
  2. Considering the safety of your SEVEN YEAR OLD child as being the most important thing is over dramatic (what?)
  3. You are unreasonable to be concerned about things that haven’t happened yet. You should wait until they do and it’s too late to do anything about it,and THEN be concerned (again, what?)

Honestly, I would bow out at this point OP

OneThreadOnlybyN · Today 12:03

she doesn't have any right to check out people before her son meets them on his time. He doesn't have any right to check out people she introduces her son to on her time.

they both have independent parental responsibility.

she knows who he's staying with - his Dad & she knows where he's staying - at his Dads. But she can't stop his Dad taking him somewhere else if he wants to (not that he has)

your relatives jobs and your dabbling are irrelevant at best

EDIT: it dropped the quote. It was in reply to @dinoderry

Pinkie89 · Today 12:05

dinoderry · Today 11:51

I was responding to this part of the comment: “He gets to decide on his time and you have no say and no right to any information- it’s none of your business”.

I said “where’s the safeguarding here?” because the comment is plainly ridiculous. Of course it’s her business. It’s her child.

I wouldn’t let my child stay anywhere unless I knew where they were staying and who they would be staying with. That is basic safeguarding. I’m not saying I have to know that individual personally, but I would at least need to know their name, their relationship to my child and if there are any relevant factors i.e previous children removed by social services, known criminal record etc.

Several of my family members work in child protection, and I have dabbled on the legal side. Having information about your child is plainly important.

Thank you. These replies are making me feel completely abnormal for wanting to protect my son. I wish I’d never asked the question.

I thought it was a well known that it was in the best interests of children to not introduce new partners after 2 weeks, and until in a serious and committed relationship. How is that in any way beneficial to my son and where is the harm in waiting until you know that person better. And why does no one seem concerned that my son is either sleeping on a sofa or sharing a bed with this woman.

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harriethoyle · Today 12:06

If your reaction IRL was a tenth of your reaction on here, I’m not surprised he lied to you. Such drama over nothing!

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