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Have you noticed this with your parents as they’ve got older?

189 replies

Thesleer · Yesterday 20:25

I don’t know if i’m being unfair. I’m in my early forties and my parents are late sixties. They have a few buy to let properties and whilst not incredibly wealthy they are comfortable. I feel this detail is relevant as it means they have lots of options open to them. Neither work now, they are in decent health generally, have a few grandchildren they see regularly. Both have wide friendship groups and socialise.

But, they just don’t seem happy. Always wanting something else. Is this what happens as you get older? The current drama is whether they need to move house, it’s like they enjoy creating a chaotic situation that simply doesn’t need to exist. Every weekend they’ve asked me to view houses with them (I have two dc so life is quite busy!) and they often comment on how life is nearly over.

On a lesser scale, there’s often dramas about getting home from a shop and the blueberries or whatever being off, calling the shop and having a rant about it, just really insane petty things. It all seems so stressful even from the outside!

I have sympathy in the sense that I can understand how life can feel empty sometimes even when it isn’t, but truthfully I’m also getting sick of the inability to see they have a pretty nice life! AIBU? Is this what happens as people
age?

OP posts:
Penkie · Yesterday 21:20

Too much time on their hands once they retired.
Moan about everything and everyone, from the Prime Minister to the price of eggs , as if they could do any better.

Gonners · Yesterday 21:20

I'll be 75 next month, but (from choice) I have no children and therefore no need to be a PITA.

I do, however, have a much older partner with "children" now in their 50s. Now they are very definitely a PITA!

cocoadreams · Yesterday 21:21

Jeez, I’m early 60’s and a million times more positive than I used to be - hoping to retire soon and bursting with plans and ideas to occupy me - house needs painting and eventually I will downsize - if my adult offspring can ever afford to move out ! Can’t wait for the next 20 years !

peepsypops · Yesterday 21:22

Yes I think so - specifically since retirement. My dad still works a bit and has more hobbies so it’s not really true for him but I would say my mum - yes. A combination of retiring a little too early and Covid knocking confidence.

TygerBread · Yesterday 21:23

Mine are both retired, got about £1m in assets and about £6k coming in each month with low housing costs and no costly hobbies. I think the history of being raised in council flats has given them a mentality of feeling a need to always be saving or investing (ISAs and property have been the thing for them, they don’t understand or trust anything else…which I don’t actually disagree with).

However, aside from quite a bit of socialising which mostly involves cups of coffee in weatherspoons, and an occasional weekend away “when there is a cheap deal”, they don’t do a lot.

Yet…they seem to be constantly busy, making low budget home improvements, going to every supermarket and budget chain store in the city. They are actually quite useful, they do all my gardening, they think nothing of checking on my pets while I’m out at work. I only have to random mention I’ve run out of Tomato ketchup and my father will walk to supermarket and have 2 bottles of it rest to give me the next time he see’s me. If I need a new coat, my mother will buy 3 of them and quite happily take back what is no use, even though the journey into town is an hour each way.

They both like a good moan, I’ve known them to take a jar of opened budget coffee back to the supermarket and demand a refund just becuase they didn’t like the ‘quality’.

Mine are actually good as gold, but the tightness and moaning in some aspects can get annoying. On the plus point, they are leaving their money to me so aren’t spending my inheritance.

The thing I found that really set them off on a lot of their time-wasting tasks…was when they got the free bus passes, they go into town and back some days for no reason at all other than ‘to get out for a few hours’.

I think just be grateful they are healthy and in their own way, happy (sometimes even the moaning makes them happy, it’s an interaction and they think they are in the right all the time). Mine both worked full time until a few years ago, and they seem to somehow gone from being busy working people to busy retire people…even though they don’t actually achieve anything more now that they have so much extra time.

Don’t worry about it OP! It’s their retirement, let them get on with it. I know they may try to pull in more of your time than when they worked, but I’ve found that as long as you have a firm excuse (I’ve already arranged to meet a friend etc) they are fine…but saying d rather just stay at home and not meet up whenever they ask etc…that they don’t accept easily.

A tip to avoid, if they are anything like my parents, don’t fall into a ‘routine’ with them. Don’t get into a situation such as having dinner with them EVERY Sunday or having a phone call EVERY Tuesday etc. Also don’t tell them too much about what you are doing when, because sometimes when you want a day off from them…a little white lie switching the days around can be useful…so for example if you are going to the cinema on Wednesday evening, and you don’t mention it, you can say sorry I’m going to the cinema on Friday and it’s all booked and paid for when they invite you over for Friday dinner, then when you see them on Sunday for example you can tell them all about the film you saw naturally and honestly, but just not the exact day you went.

Decide on your own boundaries, if you want to see them once a week for 4 hours, try to get that happening as on average, by accepting some invites but not others. As for phone calls, when it’s got very tedious with the petty moaning…put them on speakerphone while cooking dinner and so you are still achieving something and not having your evening disrupted, or put the tv on mute with subtitles…just multitask, so the moaning isn’t so intrusive.

i wouldn’t try to change them, they are your elders and they don’t want that and may be offended, I would just manage your own interactions with them more intentionally.

As for moving house, I’d be getting involved in that…basically to make sure they buy something sensible. If they are going to be in the next place for 20 years or more…a bungalow with a level garden, a wide driveway, close to a bus stop etc. Also if they have a history of doing a lot of DIY, the costs of materials have risen sharply, and so have the costs of labour…so ensure they know the costs if they are wanting to take on a big project. A house move could keep them busy and give them something to feel excited about. They may also be wanting to make this move while they are fit and able to, and I know people in their 80s in unsuitable housing, who can afford to move, but can’t face the process and upheaval.

WonderfulSmith · Yesterday 21:23

I have theory which is that all people need to have drama in their live at a certain level.
Some people need lots of drama and some people need a little drama. If the people who need lots don’t get it, because everything is basically fine, they create it about something and nothing.

basoon · Yesterday 21:27

I'm in my 60s, can't relate to this in the slightest. Mind you, I work full time so maybe that keeps me grounded. But none of my 5 siblings from 60 to 70 resemble this either.

ForBusyOliveBear · Yesterday 21:27

TygerBread · Yesterday 21:23

Mine are both retired, got about £1m in assets and about £6k coming in each month with low housing costs and no costly hobbies. I think the history of being raised in council flats has given them a mentality of feeling a need to always be saving or investing (ISAs and property have been the thing for them, they don’t understand or trust anything else…which I don’t actually disagree with).

However, aside from quite a bit of socialising which mostly involves cups of coffee in weatherspoons, and an occasional weekend away “when there is a cheap deal”, they don’t do a lot.

Yet…they seem to be constantly busy, making low budget home improvements, going to every supermarket and budget chain store in the city. They are actually quite useful, they do all my gardening, they think nothing of checking on my pets while I’m out at work. I only have to random mention I’ve run out of Tomato ketchup and my father will walk to supermarket and have 2 bottles of it rest to give me the next time he see’s me. If I need a new coat, my mother will buy 3 of them and quite happily take back what is no use, even though the journey into town is an hour each way.

They both like a good moan, I’ve known them to take a jar of opened budget coffee back to the supermarket and demand a refund just becuase they didn’t like the ‘quality’.

Mine are actually good as gold, but the tightness and moaning in some aspects can get annoying. On the plus point, they are leaving their money to me so aren’t spending my inheritance.

The thing I found that really set them off on a lot of their time-wasting tasks…was when they got the free bus passes, they go into town and back some days for no reason at all other than ‘to get out for a few hours’.

I think just be grateful they are healthy and in their own way, happy (sometimes even the moaning makes them happy, it’s an interaction and they think they are in the right all the time). Mine both worked full time until a few years ago, and they seem to somehow gone from being busy working people to busy retire people…even though they don’t actually achieve anything more now that they have so much extra time.

Don’t worry about it OP! It’s their retirement, let them get on with it. I know they may try to pull in more of your time than when they worked, but I’ve found that as long as you have a firm excuse (I’ve already arranged to meet a friend etc) they are fine…but saying d rather just stay at home and not meet up whenever they ask etc…that they don’t accept easily.

A tip to avoid, if they are anything like my parents, don’t fall into a ‘routine’ with them. Don’t get into a situation such as having dinner with them EVERY Sunday or having a phone call EVERY Tuesday etc. Also don’t tell them too much about what you are doing when, because sometimes when you want a day off from them…a little white lie switching the days around can be useful…so for example if you are going to the cinema on Wednesday evening, and you don’t mention it, you can say sorry I’m going to the cinema on Friday and it’s all booked and paid for when they invite you over for Friday dinner, then when you see them on Sunday for example you can tell them all about the film you saw naturally and honestly, but just not the exact day you went.

Decide on your own boundaries, if you want to see them once a week for 4 hours, try to get that happening as on average, by accepting some invites but not others. As for phone calls, when it’s got very tedious with the petty moaning…put them on speakerphone while cooking dinner and so you are still achieving something and not having your evening disrupted, or put the tv on mute with subtitles…just multitask, so the moaning isn’t so intrusive.

i wouldn’t try to change them, they are your elders and they don’t want that and may be offended, I would just manage your own interactions with them more intentionally.

As for moving house, I’d be getting involved in that…basically to make sure they buy something sensible. If they are going to be in the next place for 20 years or more…a bungalow with a level garden, a wide driveway, close to a bus stop etc. Also if they have a history of doing a lot of DIY, the costs of materials have risen sharply, and so have the costs of labour…so ensure they know the costs if they are wanting to take on a big project. A house move could keep them busy and give them something to feel excited about. They may also be wanting to make this move while they are fit and able to, and I know people in their 80s in unsuitable housing, who can afford to move, but can’t face the process and upheaval.

You are lucky, they sound like very kind and thoughtful parents.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 21:27

Thesleer · Yesterday 20:30

@MovedlikeHarlowinMonteCarlo would she be upset over inconveniences?

My DM wouldn’t, she’s more laid back than me. She wafts through life.

MyThreeWords · Yesterday 21:29

What an amazing generalisation to make about older people, OP, just on the basis of the two older people who happen to be your parents.

Dunkerquetodover · Yesterday 21:35

This happened to my dad but not my mum (divorced). After retirement my dad went a bit crazy - would get totally stressed about minor issues with neighbours about trees and parking. My mum on the other hand bloomed. She was like I've worked, raised my children and now i'm going to enjoy life.

Namechangeforthisdilemma1 · Yesterday 21:35

Thesleer · Yesterday 20:35

@HumanOfTheWeek i am trying to think back as to whether it was always like this

I think this too. If they were unhappy before it just gets worse as they age.

My relative has always been a bit volatile but my god just flies off the handle at anything these days. No patience at all.

pizzaHeart · Yesterday 21:35

HumanOfTheWeek · Yesterday 20:32

Yes, my parents are like this and so is my MIL. I think they’ve always had little joy in life but before they were busier and it wasn’t as noticeable.

This ^
They were busy before plus you were on a different stage - 20 something usually spend less time with their parents and pay less attention to them. When you got older you think about their personal traits more plus you are involved on a different level. Before your mum went to work and was probably moaning to her work colleagues and she didn’t need your help with looking at houses so you just didn’t know about this side of her.

Headabovetheparapets · Yesterday 21:35

Obviously not everyone is the same & there are plenty of upbeat older people, but with my older relatives, initially grandparents & now parents sometimes find things more problematic & overwhelming. Often due to frustration with poor hearing causing issues on the phone or eyesight making reading awkward or the complications of having to do things online or with automated phones & passwords, rather than in person, all of which made things harder for my grandmother in particular to manage (she was born over 100 yrs ago) & therefore she would ask for help with & would get frustrated by everything “being complicated”

YoBetty · Yesterday 21:37

DH and I are broadly speaking in the demographic you describe.

We are not like that.

TheKidsHaveAllGrownNow · Yesterday 21:37

Mine have become more critical. I blame retirement, too much time on their hands. They’re mildly codependent, too, I guess that’s not such a bad thing.

Namechangeforthisdilemma1 · Yesterday 21:37

MyThreeWords · Yesterday 21:29

What an amazing generalisation to make about older people, OP, just on the basis of the two older people who happen to be your parents.

Oh fgs! She is simply asking if other people have experienced it. As both parents are like it and it’s a marked difference since they have got older.

As others have mentioned I think you have to be an unhappy person already to get like this as you age. So age is a factor but it has to be in there somewhere to begin with.

TownClock · Yesterday 21:38

KnittyKnotty · Yesterday 21:18

Retired people have time to fixate on things. E g the blueberries, I would grumble, vow never to buy them in that shop again, throw them in the bin and forget about it. I'm too busy with life and working full-time to waste time on it

Retired people have that time.

Crikey this is a generalisation. I'm retired and busy as I've ever been as are pretty much all my friends.

One of the great joys of retirement is that you have time to do things properly - like having a bloody good look at the blueberries before you put them in your basket.

Another is being free to be who you want and you can choose to be a happy person or a miserable old sod. I hope I'm the happy type.

lulubalu · Yesterday 21:38

This is my Mum! She was always so positive (almost to the point of toxic positivity) now, she's a moan-a-minute and just so petty, when it first started I thought it was funny but now, it's just wearing

HeyThereDelila · Yesterday 21:39

No, my DPs and my ILs aren’t like this - they’re generally happy with their lot and contented.

HardyJadeGuide · Yesterday 21:40

I recognise this in my mum. The supermarket delivery isn’t quite right and it’s terrible or Theres a busker in the street and they are’ ‘creating a racket’. It’s as though she’s only happy if there’s something to complain about. I find it very tiresome as I have 3 young kids a full time job etc etc and would love her financial security and freedom.

VictoriaEra · Yesterday 21:40

Mine is definitely like yours. Minor things are huge. Stress about Christmas in September for example. Highly anxious to the point of screaming when the phone rings.

VickyEadie · Yesterday 21:40

Penkie · Yesterday 21:20

Too much time on their hands once they retired.
Moan about everything and everyone, from the Prime Minister to the price of eggs , as if they could do any better.

And yet I bet you a tenner that it's not all the retired people starting the relentless, moany threads on AIBU day after day. In fact, the details in them confirm that it's mostly the middle aged and younger people doing that.

thereare4lights · Yesterday 21:41

My parents are late 70s early 80s and the opposite of this.

forestaremagic · Yesterday 21:41

Probably nothing going on in their life’s, run out of things to say to each other. Little things become big issues.

i was in spoons yesterday, having my lunch. An older couple was asked if their food was ok, said no chips were cold and egg hard (don’t know if they complained before eating it) Staff apologised, said sorry about that, nothing else. Amused me they spent next 30m complaining between them, about worst meal they ever had, just repeating themselves