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AIBU to expect vegan guests to avoid preaching at shared meals?

320 replies

maxslice · Today 05:01

I’m a flexitarian. Meaning I have a mostly plant focused diet. But if invited to, say, a work event or a wedding or to dinner at my oldest friend’s parents house, I’ll eat a lot of salad, potatoes, and bread. Maybe even a bit of their chicken or beef roast to not cause offense or awkwardness. So, that’s my choice. I have long term dear friends who are vegans. I respect that. But I want them to contribute an appropriate dish to share with everyone if it’s that’s so important to them. That said, I think they should just eat and shut up. Do what works for them and leave other people alone. Judging and preaching at
your host and other people is bad manners. No matter how passionate you are, there’s no need for that. You don’t persuade people by bullying them. Am I wrong?

OP posts:
Snoken · Today 07:49

WildLeader · Today 07:32

Exactly

Question:
“How do you know if someone’s Vegan?”

Answer:
”Oh don’t worry, they’ll tell you…”

I can honestly say that not a single vegan I have ever met has been preachy about it. If anything, they downplay it because they know people will be strangely offended by their choice of diet and lifestyle. The topic only ever comes up when talking about food or animal rights, are they supposed to pretend they eat meat so that they don't get accused of "preaching" about it?

raininjune · Today 07:50

Snoken · Today 07:49

I can honestly say that not a single vegan I have ever met has been preachy about it. If anything, they downplay it because they know people will be strangely offended by their choice of diet and lifestyle. The topic only ever comes up when talking about food or animal rights, are they supposed to pretend they eat meat so that they don't get accused of "preaching" about it?

Hard agree.

stardrops1 · Today 07:50

KateSixer · Today 07:44

Being vegan is very self indulgent in my view. No evidence it's healthy and a lot of shop bought vegan products are ultra processed

I think you are being unreasonable if you think they should just stop being vegan when they come to your house.

But you are not being unreasonable if you ask them to bring their own main course.

You would invite someone to your home for a meal and ask them to bring their own main course?! Really??? Some of these posts are beyond odd.

ConstanzeMozart · Today 07:51

Clonakilla · Today 06:08

Hmmmmmm I’ve been vegetarian for thirty years. The only people who’ve acted like dickheads like this during a meal have been male meat eaters.

Apart from the ‘male’ bit, this has been my experience too.

maxslice · Today 07:52

randomchap · Today 07:47

Oh look, a goady post by someone who then doesn't come back to the thread. How tedious

I posted about 45 minutes ago. Lighten up.

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CraneWreck · Today 07:53

Another omnivore here who has never heard a vegan or vegetarian preach. It is some meat eaters who need to ‘educate’ others and mock vegans for their choices. It’s like they feel threatened by people who don’t eat meat. And yes it’s always the men.

My kids’ vegan music teacher didn’t tell us for years and I kept giving her milk chocolates for Christmas! I kind of wish she had told me earlier but she just kept it to herself!

TeaForTwoPlusDog · Today 07:53

randomchap · Today 07:47

Oh look, a goady post by someone who then doesn't come back to the thread. How tedious

It’s good people are getting wise to it. I only wish MNHQ would deal with these obvious goady threads but ‘traffic’. 🙄

UniquePinkSwan · Today 07:53

TofuTuesday · Today 06:33

Oh look another vegan bashing thread by an omnivore with vague accusations of preaching.
funny how vegans make people so tetchy, maybe they are afraid we are right. Btw I have no interest in converting anyone at the dinner table, and have never met anyone vegan who does.

Nope. You’re not right. It’s a terrible diet and completely unhealthy.

randomchap · Today 07:55

raininjune · Today 07:49

Also, why would you invite someone to your house knowing their dietary preferences and not cater for them, That's just bad hosting.

Exactly, I eat meat, but am happy to cater to whatever dietary requirements my guests have. Hopefully with a dish that will cater for all people. I'm not making a meat one and vegan one, everyone gets the vegan meal

Imisscoffee2021 · Today 07:55

It's obvious they shouldn't preach, but I know many vegans and I'm a vegetarian of 20 something years and I've found that it's people who eat meat who either start a discussion or preach to a vegan or someone who avoids meat. I can't think of one militant vegan and know so many!

Namechangergtr · Today 07:55

Bringing · Today 05:49

Of course they’re preaching - they’re vegan! There’s mot much point being vegan if you can’t preach about it, surely? Tell them to bore off!

Grow up. Most people don't even know I'm vegan because I've never once preached about it.

raininjune · Today 07:56

UniquePinkSwan · Today 07:53

Nope. You’re not right. It’s a terrible diet and completely unhealthy.

Based on what? What about it is completely unhealthy? Yes if you live on a diet of UPFs it is but that's applicable to any diet.

LizandDerekGoals · Today 07:56

UniquePinkSwan · Today 07:53

Nope. You’re not right. It’s a terrible diet and completely unhealthy.

Are you arguing that meat is healthy? Specifically pig meat?

Snoken · Today 07:56

KateSixer · Today 07:44

Being vegan is very self indulgent in my view. No evidence it's healthy and a lot of shop bought vegan products are ultra processed

I think you are being unreasonable if you think they should just stop being vegan when they come to your house.

But you are not being unreasonable if you ask them to bring their own main course.

Wtf, veganism is self indulgent?

Vegan products are things such as beans, carrots, onion, oats, potatoes, blueberries, lentils, couscous, rice. Then there are upf's out their like chicken nuggets, sausages, fish fingers, pepperoni, salami all of which meat eaters love. But when a vegan upf enters the market all of a sudden that's is the definitition of a vegan diet.

darksideofthetoon · Today 07:57

Like that old joke: how do you know someone is vegan? They’ll tell you.

raininjune · Today 07:57

Namechangergtr · Today 07:55

Grow up. Most people don't even know I'm vegan because I've never once preached about it.

I know - threads like this make me want to start 'I'm a preachy vegan AMA' thread just to be annoying ;)

randomchap · Today 07:57

maxslice · Today 07:52

I posted about 45 minutes ago. Lighten up.

You posted at 5 am, not 45 mins ago.

raininjune · Today 07:58

darksideofthetoon · Today 07:57

Like that old joke: how do you know someone is vegan? They’ll tell you.

Edited

Or the fact you're the third person on this thread to quote 'the old joke'.

darksideofthetoon · Today 08:00

raininjune · Today 07:58

Or the fact you're the third person on this thread to quote 'the old joke'.

Because there’s some truth to it!

SquirrelMadness · Today 08:01

maxslice · Today 07:52

I posted about 45 minutes ago. Lighten up.

Are you going to give any details on what your vegan friends have actually said or done? If not, what was the point of this thread?

ViaRia01 · Today 08:02

Well I don’t know what actually happened OP so it is hard to say… but loads of people biting your head off for no apparent reason at all. It seems to me that your point is evidenced in the replies you’re receiving- you eat consciously 95% of the time because you agree with vegetarianism but that you have occasional meat in your diet (for whatever reason) but that is not good enough for the ‘real’ vegetarians here, and you are fair game for shitty comments.

Snoken · Today 08:04

darksideofthetoon · Today 08:00

Because there’s some truth to it!

I know who in my circle eats meat too. Does that mean they have preached about it or just that they have told me they do? It seems that when a vegan tells you they are vegan they are preaching, when a meat eater tells you they eat meat, they just tell you. If you are having people over for dinne then yes, you will have to find out what they dietary requirements are. Otherwise you might be feeding coeliac flour. My guess it though that you have precisely zero vegans in your circle.

raininjune · Today 08:04

darksideofthetoon · Today 08:00

Because there’s some truth to it!

Based on personal experience? Or just a very lazy trope.

KateSixer · Today 08:05

stardrops1 · Today 07:50

You would invite someone to your home for a meal and ask them to bring their own main course?! Really??? Some of these posts are beyond odd.

Sorry you are right. Of course I'd provide for them if it was a small group for dinner. I had interpreted (perhaps wrongly) that the OP had in mind a large party of people with a couple of vegans in the mix. In the latter case I might well ask them to bring something if they wanted more than veg and salad.

FieryA · Today 08:05

Yes you are wrong. You have a horrible attitude. Are you saying that your vegan friends should bring their own meals to parties or just shut up and eat whatever is offered? That makes no sense. In what way were they preachy? I am a vegetarian and have friends who are- never seen anyone imposing our views on others. Equally, my friends have never seen my diet as odd or difficult, and there's never any awkwardness about serving veg food.
Also, what's a flexitarian? You just seem to eat all kinds of food. Stop giving yourself some weird title.

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