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AIBU to marry secretly now and hold a wedding in 2028?

492 replies

Wededed · Yesterday 13:03

We are just about to book a wedding venue. We were going to do next summer but are tempted to do 2028 as it gives us more time to save, and more time to fit in planning/ organising.

But this is two years away!!!

We are well overdue this wedding. We have been engaged for many years. I believe 6 or 7!!

With two young kids and assets now worth worrying about legally. Would it be unreasonable to go and get married secretly in private without telling anyone at a registry office.

We can then have the 2028 wedding as planned but if either of us gets hit by a bus in the meantime then we are legally covered.

One part of me thinks this is no big deal. It’s no different to 3/4 of the weddings I have been to where people are having destination weddings or celebrants weddings at unlicensed venues.

The only difference is the extensive time frame and we won’t be able to wear our rings or change our names without others knowing until after the 2028 date.

What do you think?

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ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:17

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:15

I don't know why people get so over-involved and miffed if they miss the actual signature of a legal contract 😂

I am guessing they point blank refuse to attend a birthday or an anniversary party if it's not on the exact date?

Posters on MN do hate weddings and any kind of celebration, that might the reason. They get offended if they are not invited, but they also get offended when they ARE invited. 😂Pity the family having to deal with them

It’s lying that’s weird, like why keep it secret for 2 years? Is that to ensure they still get gifts? It’s weird to lie about something so normal for so long anywhere, not just on mumsnet

Randomchat · Yesterday 13:18

I wouldn't like the feeling that I'd been lied to for 2 years. I wouldn't mind if you got married now and invited me to a big party in 2 years time. I'd go to a party for any occasion or none. But don't tell me it's your wedding when it's not. That just makes me feel a bit foolish.

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:18

McSpoot · Yesterday 13:16

It’s the lying - to the point of not wearing wedding rings that would bother me.

But most people wouldn't wear wedding rings until the actual "wedding", the one with a wedding dress, and family and friends.

The registry civil is just a formality and doesn't count for them. (it does count legally, which is the only reason to get it over and done with)

So that's not lying?

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:20

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:18

But most people wouldn't wear wedding rings until the actual "wedding", the one with a wedding dress, and family and friends.

The registry civil is just a formality and doesn't count for them. (it does count legally, which is the only reason to get it over and done with)

So that's not lying?

It is lying. And it’s not just rings it’s not changing your name for 2 years to keep the secret

Randomchat · Yesterday 13:20

Your reasons are totally logical.

You want the legal protection now, and you want the excitement and anticipation of planning your big day. Both of those things are valid.

Do both, just don't pretend for 2 years.

PinkEasterbunny · Yesterday 13:21

ComtesseDeSpair · Yesterday 13:09

You don’t need to keep it a secret - book the register office, have just the statutory witnesses or a small number of guests, and tell everyone else you’ll have an anniversary party in a couple of years.

It’s going to be a lot easier than pretending you aren’t married for two years and then having to surprise everyone who shows up to your “wedding” with there being no actual wedding.

This. Be honest about what you're doing and I suspect most people would be fine about it

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:21

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:17

It’s lying that’s weird, like why keep it secret for 2 years? Is that to ensure they still get gifts? It’s weird to lie about something so normal for so long anywhere, not just on mumsnet

It has honestly never occurred to me to even wonder if a couple getting "married" at the wedding, actually has gone through the legal bits in advance.

If they have an actual wedding, go the registry office but with family and friends, then have a wedding celebration, a party.. then yes it would be weird.

In and out the registry office? It's not a wedding!

Is that to ensure they still get gifts?no, that's you being miffed about being a gift for people you are supposed to like. No one gets married for "the gifts"😂
The wedding costs more than the gifts you receive.

OneThreadOnlybyN · Yesterday 13:22

You'll have to lie to your kids forever more & ensure they don't ever see any paperwork with your wedding date on it.

your 'big' anniversaries will always be a lie. You'll have to lie to everyone, always, about how long you've been married.
.
Just because you want 'a big wedding party'

imo saving gut another two years to spend it in a one day party is a huge waste of money that could he better spent.

id just get married now & have the wedding/reception you can afford now.

Wededed · Yesterday 13:22

In response to why have one in 2028;

Because for many years we have ummed and ahhed about what to do. Never done anything for various reasons. We recently saw a venue which is local and would work perfectly.

I can now clearly envisage a beautiful wedding which we can afford and I want to celebrate the family we have made.

I am quite excited about it. But nervous that holding out will be a risk to our children if anything were to happen. That is not ok in my eyes.

Why should we not be able to have the wedding we want just because we have children we need to protect legally.

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JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:23

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:20

It is lying. And it’s not just rings it’s not changing your name for 2 years to keep the secret

so they wait to exchange rings and change name until they have the actual WEDDING they have booked and are planning.

Hardly a lie then.

if it bothers you that much, then don't go.

Or make people swear that they are not married when you are invited somewhere 😂

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:23

Wededed · Yesterday 13:22

In response to why have one in 2028;

Because for many years we have ummed and ahhed about what to do. Never done anything for various reasons. We recently saw a venue which is local and would work perfectly.

I can now clearly envisage a beautiful wedding which we can afford and I want to celebrate the family we have made.

I am quite excited about it. But nervous that holding out will be a risk to our children if anything were to happen. That is not ok in my eyes.

Why should we not be able to have the wedding we want just because we have children we need to protect legally.

Edited

The question is, why lie about it though?

Geranium1984 · Yesterday 13:24

Just worry about getting married, not the wedding. Do registry iffice and a small dinner afterwards.
A gathering of friends if you like.
Weddings are a major faff to organise and, as you say, expensive.
Can you throw a party for a big birthday or your 1 year wedding anniversay?

Wededed · Yesterday 13:24

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:21

It has honestly never occurred to me to even wonder if a couple getting "married" at the wedding, actually has gone through the legal bits in advance.

If they have an actual wedding, go the registry office but with family and friends, then have a wedding celebration, a party.. then yes it would be weird.

In and out the registry office? It's not a wedding!

Is that to ensure they still get gifts?no, that's you being miffed about being a gift for people you are supposed to like. No one gets married for "the gifts"😂
The wedding costs more than the gifts you receive.

Yes it would just be DP and I and our two best friends as witnesses.

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Alottatopspin · Yesterday 13:25

Wededed · Yesterday 13:14

Well that’s what I am thinking. Only two of a dozen weddings I have been to in the past decade have actually been THE ‘wedding’.

Most weddings are not weddings these days.

Is that true? Not really. TWO years though? With the white dress etc? I’d assume you were just greedy fuckers after the presents and that’s why you l’d bother. I really wouldn’t be happy to be lied too either… if you’re going to do it then be upfront, but I’d expect a lot of ‘sorry can’t make it’ for the ‘wedding’.
I’m not buying going to a hen or stag do, buying a new outfit, paying for travel and presents, and a hotel, and drinks at the bar etc for a fake wedding!

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 13:25

JollyGreenWatermelon · Yesterday 13:23

so they wait to exchange rings and change name until they have the actual WEDDING they have booked and are planning.

Hardly a lie then.

if it bothers you that much, then don't go.

Or make people swear that they are not married when you are invited somewhere 😂

Fine keeping it secret then. It’s an unnecessary secret if you don’t want to call it a lie. What’s the point?

Alottatopspin · Yesterday 13:26

Wededed · Yesterday 13:22

In response to why have one in 2028;

Because for many years we have ummed and ahhed about what to do. Never done anything for various reasons. We recently saw a venue which is local and would work perfectly.

I can now clearly envisage a beautiful wedding which we can afford and I want to celebrate the family we have made.

I am quite excited about it. But nervous that holding out will be a risk to our children if anything were to happen. That is not ok in my eyes.

Why should we not be able to have the wedding we want just because we have children we need to protect legally.

Edited

Get married, protect your children, envisage a different venue - one available now-ish!

Imaginingdragonsagain · Yesterday 13:27

Buscobel · Yesterday 13:11

If you get married now for very valid reasons, but do t tell anyone, then have a big ‘wedding’ in a couple of years, it does rather look as though you’re doing it for the gifts.

Yes I agree with this.

OneThreadOnlybyN · Yesterday 13:28

Beyondamountainandoverthesea · Yesterday 13:14

Op doesnt want to do that. If it would 'fuck you off' that badly then you wouldnt have to attend would you.

That makes no sense. There be attending believing it was the actual wedding. When in fact it's just a fake an excuse for a party & presents, a huge expense for guests.

ladykale · Yesterday 13:28

I don’t see why it’s anyone’s business - I wouldn’t keep it a secret though. Have a small wedding at the registry office. Book your venue and send save the dates for 2028. It’s not that strange, lots of people send a save the date 12 months ahead - you would just be sending it 18 months ahead.

Have the full blown wedding you want in 2028! Life is too short to adjust your plans based on what guests want. They don’t have to come - you’ll save money if they don’t after all!

anotherdaytosmile · Yesterday 13:29

If you get married then you’re married. Anything else is a party or weird renewal of vows. It isn’t a wedding so don’t say it is and expect people to respond

Daysgo · Yesterday 13:29

It just seems kind of childish, the tricking people. Is it so you don't lose out on decent wedding presents? Or so u have a fairytale pretend wedding? ... Just seems bizarre really

ladykale · Yesterday 13:29

Also, what’s the huge expense people talk of to attend a wedding? The bride and groom spend far more typically per head hosting you!

MrsPerfect12 · Yesterday 13:29

Why can’t you get wills made up to product you all for now?

Wededed · Yesterday 13:29

Do registry office and a small dinner afterwards.

We don’t want to do that.

My parents are a nightmare. A small registry with them as a major percentage of the attendees is a miserable affair.

We also considered eloping and announcing. Partly because of the nightmare family element. I don’t want to do that either because I felt for a long time elopement was our only option. That felt forced and that took the fun and romance out of it. They would simultaneously also see that as an affront to batter us with whilst taking pleasure that we didn’t get our day. They are not nice people which is partly why I am so keen to celebrate our little family and all those who do care about us.

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Alouest · Yesterday 13:30

Why don't you have your small wedding now and plan a big party (NOT a wedding) for 2028?

FWIW I know someone who did this and a lot of the attendees were really quite annoyed. They felt short-changed and the people who had contributed money or other things (champagne etc) for the wedding were royally pissed off.

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