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To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?

222 replies

Sausagenbacon · 06/06/2026 08:03

Surely public figures must realise that making empty performative gestures will come back to haunt them at some point?

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Wishing14 · 07/06/2026 06:36

The uk police and the American police are not and were not the same, and the whole thing was idiotic at the time and the fact that still people don’t get it amazes me! We tried to ‘correct’ the racism in the American police in the British police - which was not the same!!! And so this is where we ended up. And so we should have an issue with all the politicians and people who took the knee and brought us to this point.

RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 06:48

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 06:31

Out of interest-why is your picture not complete?

Fair point. To go to the end then.

"I've given jobs to sexual predators then denied acountability" : Fair enough. Personally I think the footie tickets should have finished him.

"I've got your famers blood on my hands" : From what I have read about the farmer that killed himself, I would blame the right wing fearmongering press.

"I took cash from pensioners and women's pensions": Actually took it or changed the system that pays it, or collects tax etc.

I think I managed that without any whataboutisms.

FirstNationsEnglish · 07/06/2026 07:02

Ginnyweasleyswand · 06/06/2026 08:54

This is so ridiculous. No individual lives for centuries (and obviously especially not a young man like Henry Nowak, RIP, failed by this system) and in fact 'white privilege' is in fact only rich white privilege. There are plenty of white people - a larger number than those who had any kind of privilege - who were in the workhouses when Britain had an empire. Dying of TB and other horrible diseases, Extremely high child mortality. They were not any better off than poor people in other countries and died, in their thousands, in extremely nasty conditions. That's the majority experience of the majority of white people in this country for all of time. The idea these people, as a group, had any kind of privilege is laughable.

'Anti-racism' is the new racism. It divides and does not unite, it gives the elite (the same as the wealthy landowners and gentry of previous times) the power to decide who is 'worthy' and who is not, basically. They've just flipped it around as to who gets the knee on the neck or the back, basically. So they can pretend they're good people.

Kemi Badenoch gets it right, and I'm sure she's experience real racism in her life. But she doesn't use it to get one over on everyone else, all the people who just happen to have a different skin colour to her but aren't in fact racist. She shows far more willingness to show respect to all, give regard based on behaviour not any group identity, and embrace difference than Starmer who blows with the wind.

Henry Nowak's murderer knew exactly what to say to deflect blame. He'd obviously done it before. The family were still doing it in court. It has obviously been a successful tactic for a long time. Whilst what they did was despicable (and what the son did was murder) it's the fault of the police, politicians, and government institutions that this obvious attempt to avoid accountability worked and lead to situation that may have resulted in the avoidable death of a young man.

It may have worked over the longer term if Henry hadn't died because it's a bit difficult to argue you're the victim when the person you're claiming has oppressed you is dead.

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⬆️ This! Well said. 👏

HoppityBun · 07/06/2026 07:43

I remember that photograph. It was performative bollocks. I remember Starmer‘s po face and I remember thinking that the woman on his left should’ve worn a longer skirt or trousers.

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 10:30

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 06:31

Out of interest-why is your picture not complete?

Not sure - I tried copying it but it didn’t work.

Don’t worry - the remainder is just as damning!

Edit: I see others have sent the full post.

What’s your view?

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 11:56

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 10:30

Not sure - I tried copying it but it didn’t work.

Don’t worry - the remainder is just as damning!

Edit: I see others have sent the full post.

What’s your view?

Edited

What’s the line about rent boys?

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:01

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 11:56

What’s the line about rent boys?

It’s all ‘out there’.

Enough questions - time for answers.

What’s your view on that X post?

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 14:15

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:01

It’s all ‘out there’.

Enough questions - time for answers.

What’s your view on that X post?

@RedTagAlanhas already responded-no point me repeating. Particularly to a unattributed post with no sources or references.

Tell me about the rent boys.

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:35

CurlewKate · 07/06/2026 14:15

@RedTagAlanhas already responded-no point me repeating. Particularly to a unattributed post with no sources or references.

Tell me about the rent boys.

No need to be so coy.

Google (or any search engine of your choice), will tell you as much as the rest of us.

Teethyblinders · 07/06/2026 14:39

He took the knee for an American ex convict.
But refuses to take the knee for an innocent white teenager killed in this country? And people still want to claim white people are the “privileged” ones.

Same goes for the English football team. I’m willing to be proved wrong but I doubt they’ll be taking the knee for Henry nowak like they did George Floyd every game for about two years.

TemperanceWest · 07/06/2026 14:43

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 05:47

With content.

Oh. BaggiePedro. That is a far right account which is big mates, or at least a staunch admirer of, Tommy Robinson.

EasternStandard · 07/06/2026 14:48

RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 06:48

Fair point. To go to the end then.

"I've given jobs to sexual predators then denied acountability" : Fair enough. Personally I think the footie tickets should have finished him.

"I've got your famers blood on my hands" : From what I have read about the farmer that killed himself, I would blame the right wing fearmongering press.

"I took cash from pensioners and women's pensions": Actually took it or changed the system that pays it, or collects tax etc.

I think I managed that without any whataboutisms.

That poor farmer. Always someone else to blame with Labour.

Teethyblinders · 07/06/2026 14:48

ilikeachallenge · 06/06/2026 09:07

Very confused how it’s come back to haunt him?

the cases of Floyd and Nowak are vastly different.

Oh yeah you’re right let’s see.

George Floyd an ex convict who held a gun to a pregnant woman. Happened in the United States.

Henry Nowak an innocent teenager. Happened in the uk (the country Keir is the prime minister of)

The English football team spent about two years kneeling for fentanyl Floyd, any celebrity who didn’t “speak out” was racist. Rioters who looted shops and smashed historical statues into rivers were “rightfully angry”.
Now any celebrity who mentions Nowak is “causing trouble” and the protesters are apparently all a bunch of toothless thugs because a few bins got knocked over?

An of course white people are supposed to be the “privileged” ones

LuckyHazelFox · 07/06/2026 14:49

Teethyblinders · 07/06/2026 14:39

He took the knee for an American ex convict.
But refuses to take the knee for an innocent white teenager killed in this country? And people still want to claim white people are the “privileged” ones.

Same goes for the English football team. I’m willing to be proved wrong but I doubt they’ll be taking the knee for Henry nowak like they did George Floyd every game for about two years.

He showed no impartiality and that's followed him into office. Reckons he wants to put his country's residents first while forgetting his own hierarchy of blame and victimhood.

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:51

TemperanceWest · 07/06/2026 14:43

Oh. BaggiePedro. That is a far right account which is big mates, or at least a staunch admirer of, Tommy Robinson.

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If you say so.

He’s a shrewd observer of Starmer - I will give him that.

RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 14:58

EasternStandard · 07/06/2026 14:48

That poor farmer. Always someone else to blame with Labour.

From what I see in the news, he killed himself before it was announced. And after the changes were announced, it was nowhere near anything like the right wing rumour mills were making out.

We see misinformation all over. On here too.

TemperanceWest · 07/06/2026 15:00

Meant to quote pp.

To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?
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To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?
TemperanceWest · 07/06/2026 15:01

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:51

If you say so.

He’s a shrewd observer of Starmer - I will give him that.

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Baggie's own posts say so. A couple of examples of his work.

To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?
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To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?
RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 15:07

Gruntled1 · 07/06/2026 14:51

If you say so.

He’s a shrewd observer of Starmer - I will give him that.

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A shrewd observer ? Nah.

That photo meme you posted is just statements with no explanations. It's designed so the reader can insert their own. That can be difficult to debunk, but as I showed with my reply to you, it can mean near anything. I replied without looking anything up by the way.

The first statement. " I've banned journalists".

I said yeah. RTE? CCTV? I think from memory CCTV was Ofcom. And thinking on, maybe RTE was Boris.

But nowt wrong with banning state propaganda of bad actors, is there ?

So how to you interpret that statement ? " I've banned journalists".

EasternStandard · 07/06/2026 15:08

RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 14:58

From what I see in the news, he killed himself before it was announced. And after the changes were announced, it was nowhere near anything like the right wing rumour mills were making out.

We see misinformation all over. On here too.

Stop. It’s someone’s life you’re using for Labour’s gain.

Ginnyweasleyswand · 07/06/2026 15:09

YourGoldSquid · 07/06/2026 05:07

This doesn't work anymore.

Yep.

People who constantly go on about white privilege from centuries ago are telling me that they're quite unpleasant people who don't care that a lot of kids in the UK today (of all races) are really suffering and their working families having to use food banks (if available, in some places they're not) to feed their children.

That the working class are being screwed over from all sides.

It's time we focused on the problems in the here and now because the UK is now 40% worse off than people in the US (in terms of per capital GDP). Quality of life is plummeting fast - it's probably actually a lot worse than that now as the data is always somewhat old - and Labour keeps turning the thumbscrews on the working classes to fund pet ideological projects and follow various trends.

It's the minority, a minority who care about ideological purity and not actual people, but who have comfortable salaries and inhabit public sector jobs, who are driving public sector policy.. They're quite happy to implement policies that hurt people just to feel smug. They don't like it when the inevitable consequences of their actions cause immense harm and suffering as in the case of Henry Nowak so they can't lie about it any more. They are not accountable.

ourSusie · 07/06/2026 15:13

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 06/06/2026 08:24

Should he regret performative gestures like laying a wreathe at the cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday, bowing to the king to open parliament, laying wreaths on D day, and laying flowers at the Southport memorial the day after the attack?

Or is it just performative gestures in honour of murdered black people you think he should regret?

In Southport he practically threw the flowers down and scurried off.
The other instances are part of his job description, whether he is inclined
to perform them or not.

Teethyblinders · 07/06/2026 15:14

Ginnyweasleyswand · 07/06/2026 15:09

Yep.

People who constantly go on about white privilege from centuries ago are telling me that they're quite unpleasant people who don't care that a lot of kids in the UK today (of all races) are really suffering and their working families having to use food banks (if available, in some places they're not) to feed their children.

That the working class are being screwed over from all sides.

It's time we focused on the problems in the here and now because the UK is now 40% worse off than people in the US (in terms of per capital GDP). Quality of life is plummeting fast - it's probably actually a lot worse than that now as the data is always somewhat old - and Labour keeps turning the thumbscrews on the working classes to fund pet ideological projects and follow various trends.

It's the minority, a minority who care about ideological purity and not actual people, but who have comfortable salaries and inhabit public sector jobs, who are driving public sector policy.. They're quite happy to implement policies that hurt people just to feel smug. They don't like it when the inevitable consequences of their actions cause immense harm and suffering as in the case of Henry Nowak so they can't lie about it any more. They are not accountable.

Another thing that advocates of the “white privilege” theory fail to acknowledge is 99% of white peoples ancestors were farmers who died at 40. Only a tiny majority were plantation owners with slaves. The Arabs also have a history of conquering and enslaving people but it’s only white people who are subjected to the guilt trip.

These people like to throw around the word ignorant and say go educate yourself but their knowledge of history is lacking and based around that one time they watched 12 years a slave

RedTagAlan · 07/06/2026 15:31

Ginnyweasleyswand · 07/06/2026 15:09

Yep.

People who constantly go on about white privilege from centuries ago are telling me that they're quite unpleasant people who don't care that a lot of kids in the UK today (of all races) are really suffering and their working families having to use food banks (if available, in some places they're not) to feed their children.

That the working class are being screwed over from all sides.

It's time we focused on the problems in the here and now because the UK is now 40% worse off than people in the US (in terms of per capital GDP). Quality of life is plummeting fast - it's probably actually a lot worse than that now as the data is always somewhat old - and Labour keeps turning the thumbscrews on the working classes to fund pet ideological projects and follow various trends.

It's the minority, a minority who care about ideological purity and not actual people, but who have comfortable salaries and inhabit public sector jobs, who are driving public sector policy.. They're quite happy to implement policies that hurt people just to feel smug. They don't like it when the inevitable consequences of their actions cause immense harm and suffering as in the case of Henry Nowak so they can't lie about it any more. They are not accountable.

Quote : "It's time we focused on the problems in the here and now because the UK is now 40% worse off than people in the US (in terms of per capital GDP)."

The thing is with statement such as that is it is not the full picture. The screengrab attached shows the graph of US v UK GDP.

The UK isnow on an up gradient, and the US is on a steeper gradient. But see where the gradients start to change. 2014. What was happening around then. Before 2014 the UK and US were well matched.

The actual fuller picture is saying the difference started in 2014. What could that be ?

Source for graph:

World Economic Outlook (April 2026) - GDP per capita, current prices (imf.org)

To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?
southerngirl10 · 07/06/2026 15:31

The police took the knee for George Floyd as well. Shame on them for not doing it for Henry Novak.

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