To think that Starmer must regret taking the knee for George Floyd?

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Surely public figures must realise that making empty performative gestures will come back to haunt them at some point?

I agree that's insulting. Likening kneeling for an American who assaulted his pregnant girlfriend to laying a wreath for fallen heroes. Just when you think they can't get any lower.

The Left is hypocrisy on steroids.

Remember how a bunch of leftie luvvies went over to the US to help with Kamala Harris's campaign?

And anyone who wouldn't "take the knee" was a racist?

That's Two-tier Kier in action for all to see.🙄

He probably will regret it, but not.for the reason you want. He'll regret it not because it was wrong but because it gives people something to criticise him for.

People who should regret their conduct in this space, like Farage and worse, who seek to divide rather than unite, to exacerbate injustice rather than reduce it, and who willingly ignore evidence to suit their racism, never regret a thing.

Oops, sorry I corrected myself. It wasn't his pregnant girlfriend he assaulted, it was a pregnant woman whose stomach he held a gun to. POS.

He bullied Rosie Duffield out of Labour Party. So much for being a champion for women. He is a misogynist and a clown. And Labour hates women.

Yeah but yeah but that's different because he's Starmer.

One example: Minneapolis cut officer numbers by a third and saw murders double.

Devi and Fryer found 900 excess murders over two years in just five cities examined.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w27324

The effect is already well-recognised before Floyd (called the Ferguson effect).

The point in the Henry Nowak case, is surely that emphatic Equality and Diversity training had led those two police officers to automatically believe what an ethnic-minority person told them, over the words of a dying victim - even to the extent of not checking that he had in fact been stabbed.

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Very confused how it’s come back to haunt him?

the cases of Floyd and Nowak are vastly different.

What is worse than taking the knee for something that happened in another country, which is an empty lemming like social contagion thing (and not the act of a leader), is then using that one death of an American man at the hands of American police force (very different to UK policing) in a totally different American social context to drive policy in public institutions in the UK. It's fucking insane, frankly.

I'm sure there are many many awful and wrong murders and other deaths in the USA but the knee for just this one? What about all the black American women who have avoidable deaths in childbirth just because they're poor and don't have good healthcare (the rates of which are horrendous in the US). Kneeling for them Starmer? No?

The whole thing is essentially very very stupid and driven by image and not substance.

The female police officer on the body cam footage said "Don't you think we ought to check him?" and the male officer over-ruled her.

Make of that what you will.

The thing is, most people don't give a shit about this sort of thing. It is just tabloid rage fodder.

Yes most people are 'waking up', but only to the fact that the media, online bots and a small selection of elite wankers want to keep us persistently angry and malleable all of the time.

Whether Starmer took the knee or not, only matters to those who find comfort in it, or those that feel deeply threatened by it. Most of us just don't care.

He knelt for a career criminal whose death caused absolute chaos on this country's streets. During covid of all times. The same bloke who criticised Johnson for lifting covid restrictions. @OneTealShaker is right, he's a fucking clown.

Well yeah. Floyd was in the US and harmed by a police force that no-one in the UK including the PM has any accountability for or influence over. So why he was wasting his time on empty gestures about that rather than sorting out the many problems in his own country, you've got to wonder.

Nowak was harmed by a combination of his murderer and the UK police. If they'd have arrived on time, if they hadn't cuffed him, he may have been saved. Medical experts are questioning the initial report that he would have died in all circumstances. After all, he was speaking when they arrived, once they cuffed him it was downhill very fast. We've all seen it.

And even if he would have died without their brutal treatment, he died being treated appalling and with no respect whilst the man who'd killed him was being all chummy with the police.

Yawn online bots yet again. Put down the Guardian and wake up to the fact not everybody thinks the same politically. When will you finally get it that the left are not above scrutiny. He's the PM and he will keep being held to account for current AND past actions whether you like it or not.

Yes to both of your posts

Maybe that just goes to show how ‘effective’ the E&D training had been, in the case of that male officer.

Well I suppose you're right when one was a criminal and the other an innocent young lad, who hadn't had a chance to get a woman pregnant, never mind hold a gun to her stomach.

Speaking of performative gestures, where is Farage's address to the nation to call for pure cold rage, and the ordinary people who've had enough's "protest" over the brutal and unprovoked murder of Mohammed Algasim by Chas Corrigan?

It's not the act itself, it's the fact it shows he's clearly not fit to lead. The cervix statement madness is another thing. We have someone in charge that will say and do literally anything if he thinks it'll gain him support in his party or popularity points. This is not good for the country.

He'd go around saying people who think the earth is flat are an oppressed minority who are right (there's an evil bigoted globe agenda oppressing them) and deserve millions in public funding if he thought that was popular. And then force civil servants to write that into all public policy. The NHS would have 'flat earth' days to ensure flat earthers felt 'safe' to come to hospital. There would be 60k jobs in the NHS to ensure that there were 'flat earth safe spaces'. Meanwhile, the people dying in corridors and not getting an ambulance on time would continue.

TTK is going to be toppled by his own party. He needs that extra tier at the moment, to keep him from wobbling off his platform before Burnham kicks the stool.

Was that why George Floyd was being arrested that day? And was it the police who stabbed Henry Nowak?

No it wasn't why he was arrested that day as you know. Its called thinking in abstract, you should try it.

That paper you linked is dated June 2020. George Floyd was May 2020, 1 month before the paper was published. So the paper predates the defund the police movement (data collection etc)

I downloaded the full reprt PDF, and there is not a single mention of defund the police. A word search did not find a single mention of "defund".

So that paper is not evidence of your claim.