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Was this neighbour "entitled to say what he wants in his own garden?"

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MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · Yesterday 13:49

My friend shared a funny story this morning.

Her garden ends in a six foot fence, which backs onto another garden for the house behind her. They are large, very long gardens.

The man of this house, clearly thinking he had found a secluded spot away from his kids, was having a VERY explicit conversation with his wife on the phone, at the end of his garden, right against the fence. He was describing in great detail exactly what he was going to do to her when she returned home from her trip.

Trouble is, friend and her kids were sat right on the other side of the fence. They have a decking area there with chairs, tables, kids toys etc.

She couldn't let this conversation go on in earshot of her kids (3yo and 5yo) so she cheerfully shouted over the fence "very happy for your wife mate, but my kids are two feet away from you!" To which she heard a fumbled "shit, hold on" and then silence.

She reiterated this story to us, we all laughed, and agreed she did the right thing.

Retold story to husband just now who laughed, but said really, she had no right to tell him anything and embarrass him. It's his garden, he can have that conversation if he wants, and she should have moved the kids away until it stopped.

I disagree and think if you're going to live around other people you need to think of other people.

Who's right?
Reasonable - me and my friends
unreasonable - my DH

OP posts:
AguNwaanyi · Today 21:28

MrCollinsandhisboiledpotatoes · Yesterday 14:01

We of course all asked the friend too 🤣
So first he was going to strip her naked, then tie her to the table by her feet and ankles, then it was when he started to describe the oral he was going to perform on her, that she stopped it.
Spoilt sport 🤣
And also good for them because their kids are young and they both work full time from what we can tell.
Probably all talk.

Well damn. Very happy for this random woman 🥂

eastegg · Today 21:31

Nopersbro · Yesterday 14:32

I don't understand your husband's point; it seems like he's conflating legal rights with personal social decision-making.

Your friend didn't leap over the fence and seize his phone or attempt a citizen's arrest or call the police and report a crime, she called out to her neighbour and let him know she and her children could hear a conversation that he'd evidently gone to some lengths to have privately (but misjudged the level of privacy he'd actually found). Her calling out to him was the "neighbourly" and community/civic-minded thing to do under the circumstances. Had the neighbour felt strongly that he wanted to continue the conversation regardless of who could here he was perfectly able, but he didn't.

Could it really be "better" (and for whom) for your friend and the children to listen in silence, afraid to speak up or constrained from speaking up? Would the neighbour really be happier if he discovered tomorrow that several other people had heard his private conversation and said nothing?

Excellent post, sums it all up nicely! It’s not about what the neighbour has the ‘right’ to do, but whether it was the right decision for the friend to say something.

Chrissytommo · Today 21:35

It never cease to amaze me what trivial questions people ask on this forum

Hazzakay · Today 21:38

Mumtobabyhavoc · Today 21:01

It's not.

In the UK, you are not free to say whatever you want in your yard if it can be heard by neighbors. The law does not recognize an absolute right to privacy or unrestricted speech on your property if it constitutes a statutory nuisance or falls under hate speech

This is neither a statutory nuisance nor hate speech (assuming this “incident” was in England and/or Wales)

TheEagerDuck · Today 21:42

Hard one coz both are kinda right. The guy thought he was having a private convo with his wife and the friend and children also have right to enjoy their home inc gardens. However, I think hubby is right to say on this occasion, friend should have just moved and not embarrassed the guy on his property. Was likely a one off and everyone has to keep living next to each other

Mumtobabyhavoc · Today 21:43

XenoBitch · Today 21:14

I would argue it was the opposite to hate speech 😁

😂

Longleggedgiraffe · Today 21:45

Dollymylove · Yesterday 14:21

I wonder why he didnt have the conversation in the privacy of his house? Could it be because he didnt want his wife to here it? 🤣

It is quite possible that he thought that as he was on his own property he didn't have to skulk away. FWIWI'm with him. As soon as the conversation got ssly she should have removed the kids. Then, later, explained to him the she could hear him.
Neither are in the wrong, really.

eastegg · Today 21:47

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 13:54

If you have your decking area right up against your neighbour’s fence, overhearing something you don’t want to is a risk you take.

Actually, ignore my previous reply! I see it’s actually a fairly large garden. My point kind of still stands, because it’s probably still difficult to keep seating areas away from boundaries unless you have acres of land, but whatever…

Sennelier1 · Today 21:48

She has the right to announce there are children present, he has the right to talk about whatever he wants in his own garden 🤷🏼‍♀️

billeth · Today 22:46

I don't know why but I have a strong feeling someone made this story up. Just doesn't sound credible to me. Just a gut feeling though.

99bottlesofkombucha · Today 23:12

I can’t get over the woman’s dh who thinks his neighbour can say whatever he wants in his own garden but his wife can’t while out there with his kids playing. Could it be because one of them isn’t a man?

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · Today 23:15

I think he may get a kick about being overly loud about his wonderful sexual.prowess. Likes to broadcast the fact to the world.

He can obviously say what he wants in his own garden. But you had every right to ask him to lower his voice. I dont think young childten should haveel to listen to to idiot tossers like him

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