To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

He is a disgrace but sadly put on a pedestal by his crazy fans

He is a traitor but unfortunately has a cult following and locking him up will cause absolute carnage.

It’s scary. They just don’t seem able to see what he’s doing.

Someone is a bit salty that Farage is right. And you can no longer deny it. The proof is undeniable.

And unless your called out Starmer for stoking racial violence after St. Floyd, you have no moral authority to lecture anyone about Farage encouraging "rage." Perhaps rage from the working class majority is exactly what is needed.

“Salty”.

He is completely wrong. Henry Nowak’s family have called for his death to not be used for political gain.

The case of George Floyd was entirely different. He was murdered by a police officer. Whatever happened in his life, he did not deserve to be murdered by police.

Henry Nowak was stabbed by a man, who then lied to the police. The police responded with pure incompetence but it’s not the same thing, is it?

He is doing the exact thing that Starmer did by kneeling after the death of St. Floyd. He said he was angry about it. His words and actions encouraged violence and riots.

So please, spare us the moral superiority.

What do you want to happen? Who do you want the rage directed towards? The police? Police dogs? Maybe Henry Novak’s father?

What a pile of crap. Farage is divisive, dangerous and utterly disrespectful towards Henry Nowak's family, who explicitly asked people not to exploit Henry' death to sow division and hatred.

Farage is a disgrace to humanity and to the people of this country, and so is anyone who seeks to defend him or repeat his divisive messages.

I am hoping he loses some support amongst his followers following his “pure rage” comments which are clearly an invitation to violent protest. Very happy to see him loudly heckled in the HoC yesterday.

Kneeling is not the same thing as calling for “pure cold rage”. No matter how you try to dress it up, that is a direct call for violence.

Get a grip. Farage is right on this one. 2 tier policing based on race is undeniable. Its there in the polices own documentation and training material. Hence Labour trying to make this about Farage.

Also, a peaceful protest is very different to setting fire to cars outside family homes, scaring the women and children inside.

Can you provide the actual documents and proof, rather than saying “it’s undeniable” with no proof?

Here’s some proof. This is absolutely a political issue. Hoping it gets shut down is childish nonsense.

From the BBC:

The Independent Office for Police Conduct's (IOPC) is reviewing a guidance document from the National Police Chiefs' Council, which says its goal of "producing equality of policing outcomes... does not mean treating everyone 'the same' or being 'colour blind'..."

And presumably that's also why the traveller boys who raped two girls were given such appallingly light sentences last week- ethnic minority trumps the victims rights in two tier policing and it's right there in the guidance

Okay, so from those words, where is the evidence that we have a “two tier system” that led to Henry Nowak being handcuffed on the basis of his skin colour?

I ask again - where in that document does it say white people should be handcuffed because of their skin colour?

Oh, it doesn’t. But unfortunately a lot of this country has lost the ability to think critically, as well as their literacy.

What is two-tier exactly about "equality of policing outcomes for people of different ethnic groups"?

Or because the justice system is stacked against women, if it was actually two tier they’d have been found not guilty, not having their sentences reviewed? The judge in that case made it clear he was making that decision on the basis of “boys being boys” and them deserving a second chance because of their age, nothing to do with their race.

Of course not. Jailing political
leaders for political speech is a very dark path indeed.

How long do you think he should be locked up for?

Many politicians have used the same rhetorical turn when railing against things they oppose. They can’t all go to jail. Corbyn did, Starmer did (re George Floyd).

There is eventually a line. Inciting violent attacks against specific groups, I’d consider. Saying people should be angry about what he sees as racial injustice doesn’t get anywhere near. You would cripple political debate and disenfranchise people on all sides.

What’s political about calling for a response of “pure cold rage”?

Treating people differently based on ethnicity is the very definition of two tier policing. Whether it was a factor in Henry Novak's appalling treatment is to be investigated, hopefully. But I think that Farage is quite right to be talking about it.

No, it’s not.

The guidance calls for an equality of outcomes. I.e., if you have two people in front of you with the same facts (same suspected offences, same level of evidence), making sure they get the same treatment.

Isn’t that what we want in our justice system?