To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

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He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

No, they’re not.

Jack Straw has written about it also

Unfortunately there have been many many cases of boys of all ethnicities being let off after a rape conviction - the common denominator is the justice system not caring about VAWG, not the rapists’ ethnicity.

These three cases are just in one area (and the other end of the country to the traveller ones, so different courts/police):
www.theguardian.com/society/2026/may/29/teenage-boys-rape-sentencing-youth-courts

I agree with a lot of this but I don't think "police getting it wrong" is strong enough. Nowak said he'd been stabbed and the police said "I don't think you have mate".

I'm not sure this is evidence of systemic issues but the police involved, were in my view grossly negligent in their duty of care.

So do you think it's better to treat people in exactly the same way even if that means achieving different outcomes for the same crime?

So, you want identical treatment in policing but you're comfortable with the idea that this may result in two-tier justice?

To my mind, it is the outcome that matters most. I want victims of crime to get the same justice, regardless of whether they are black, brown or white.

I want perpetrators to face the same punishments for the crimes that they commit, regardless of their race.

I don't want any group to be at greater risk of miscarriages of justice than any other group.

That's what equality of outcome means. I'm absolutely astonished that people are apparently willing to sacrifice that kind of equal justice simply because they don't like the idea that police might need to adopt slightly different approaches with different communities in other to get to those equal outcomes.

I love that you think Keir Starmer carries any kind of influence or respect. He’s Labour Leader and PM by default of very few other options, not because he has a popular following. The George Floyd protests would have taken off without him.

Besides, taking a knee is a sign of respect for a man who was murdered by the police. It is not the same thing as encouraging people to rally in the streets. But I don’t expect you will agree with me.

Have you listened to anyone to draw your conclusion? There’s been police and ex police talking about it.

Jack Straw covers it too as pp says.

Because good intentions can and do produce bad results.

Lock him up, lol.

He’s right. And the far left, race baiters don’t like it.

Get used to it. Gaslighting and constantly calling people with reasonable concerns racists got you here.

Yes I agree. For so long British people were told not to cause a fuss and to be careful we don’t look racist. Look what’s happening now?! The government and police now treat different races as 1st class citizens with white people at the bottom! We all have to fight to make ourselves heard otherwise it’s going to get a lot worse. All we’re asking for is to be treated fairly and not differently. No one should carry a knife regardless of religion. I work for the council and I’m sick of the double standards. British people waiting to move from a flat into a home face a 15 year wait here. Whereas refugees get top status and this year I’ve helped 8 single refugee men get a house, without waiting! How is that fair?!

Why should Starmer be on his knees for a career criminal in a different country yet give a lame speech for an 18-year-old university student murdered in cold blood. Any right minded person in this country feels pure cold rage or whatever Farage said

This.

The knuckle-dragging scum who support him and share his odious views would see him as a political prisoners and make a martyr of him.

It’s not possible for police to ensure equality of outcome in society. It shouldn’t be their remit.

How can it be objectively measured at a scene of a crime?

Op you could always watch the video or read about the incident if you need proof of two tier policing.

It was something about a brown man stabbing a white boy, then lying he was racist and the police instantly believing brown man and the white boy being left to die by the police after he told them he had been stabbed.

My apologies, I agree. Reading my comment back, it isn't strong enough. It was a catastrophic failing. But not the evidence Farage and his ilk claim it is - particularly when 10 years ago, they were cheerleading the removal of people like Nowak.

I don’t think anyone started a BLM riot because Kier Starmer told them to, or because he took the knee. Lots of people were taking the knee. The England football team used to do it before matches (still might for all I know, I don’t watch it much). Is it their fault?

Farage said he wanted people to feel “white cold rage”. Henry Nowak’s father said he didn’t want his death to be the cause of hatred and division.

I actually think virtue signalling will be the death Of Western Society, as we know it. It’s dangerous or as someone said on a different thread …. Suicidal empathy

Did Farage say that?

I take it you're a BBC viewer. They've already issued an apology to Nigel and removed their episode from the air. That is not what he said.

Exactly, noting Starmer wasn’t locked up for supporting a corrupt, embezzling organization like BLM which was inciting race riots. He was taking the knee for a career criminal, tragic though the circumstances of his death were. And it happened in a different country.

Grooming gangs happen here for decades and are still going on.
Henry Nowak dies in this country.
Southport happened here.

All two tier policing. And these hysterical race baiters have only concern. Link up Nigel Farage, who is actually right on this.

They have no interest in the victims of crime. They only want to protect their far left wokery. So what if people get raped or die.

So Farage ignoring the direct plea from Henry Nowak's father not to use his son's death to stir up hatred is OK with you?

Tommy Robinson and his fascist thugs, some of whom were doing Nazi salutes, have terrorised the Southampton neighbourhood where their riot took place and damaged property and injured police officers and a police dog.

Farage is just a right-wing grifter. He doesn't attend Parliament and just uses his elected position as a money-making opportunity.

No

I feel terrible for Henry Nowak's family but this is very much a political matter and I cannot help but think anybody who brings up how his family feel about this is using emotional blackmail to shut down debate.

Farage is right. Absolutely right.

There is two-tier policing in this country.

No, he said ‘pure, cold rage’. It was a guy on the BBC who said he’d said ‘white, cold rage’.

Absolutely agree it's because we have two tier policing that this happened. It allowed people of certain race/culture to feel they could confidentiality lie about discrimination along with the police having already believed/decided without evidence that the white male must be guilty.