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To think Nigel Farage should be locked up?

904 replies

nobodyssons · 04/06/2026 07:05

He was inciting violence with his “address to the nation” speech, calling for rage.

Meanwhile, he doesn’t care when women are actually murdered by the police

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

Surely enough is enough and they need to take action?

Nigel Farage MP (@Nigel_Farage) on X

We must not allow the tragic murder of a young woman turn into attacks on men and attacks on the police.

https://x.com/nigel_farage/status/1371213488882847749?s=46

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BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 08:02

QuintadosMalvados · 04/06/2026 07:58

No.
They should not be front and centre. Sorry.
Action should be taken to prevent what happened to poor Henry happening again.

This requires debate.

It is in my opinion idiotic to suggest this should be swept under the carpet because of what his family say.

As terrible as I feel for them, and I'm trying to say this in as kind a way as possible, genuinely I am, their opinion on what politicians do next is not relevant.

Nobody’s saying anything should be swept under the carpet and you’re absolutely right that debate is required. The family said their son’s death should not stir up division but Farage is doing exactly that. He hasn’t suggested any sensible examination of what happened and why, just rage. Rage achieves nothing.

Peachylove802 · 04/06/2026 08:02

He's a conman, a liar, and a coward and many people have fallen for his tricks and decided to back this man. Says more about those people, than Nigel in my opinion.

safetyfreak · 04/06/2026 08:03

I just don’t think what happened should be brushed aside. The police really do need to look at their policies, because the way that boy was treated was awful. And it does feel a bit like some parts of the press want everyone to stop talking about it already, which doesn’t sit right with me. People should be allowed to talk about it until the full picture is clear.

I just hate that it’s turned into this left‑versus‑right argument, when really it’s about making sure it doesn’t happen again.

hairbearbunches · 04/06/2026 08:03

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 07:55

Politicians talked of anger and fury after George Floyd and that is was understandable, they stood with them etc.

I'm not sure I agree. What happened was the wholesale importing of #blacklivesmatter and #defundthepolice from America, where they really do have a problem with race, into Britain where historically we have been far more cohesive. Starmer and Rayner taking the knee was jaw dropping. It was pathetic.

SpaceRaccoon · 04/06/2026 08:03

"Officers in force that failed Nowak ‘pressured’ by diversity course
Some say they felt controlled during racial bias training"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/03/nowak-police-force-officers-felt-pressured-by-diversity/

Wishing14 · 04/06/2026 08:04

You cannot ever have equality of outcomes. For anything. Should everyone have an equal chance of getting a job as a surgeon despite their IQ? Should striking looking people be paired with plain people to even out attractiveness in offspring? If a family chooses to lay about watching tv all day and another works hard, should they get equal housing, cars, phones and holidays? Who is worse off, a black person or a disabled white person? You have to have equality of opportunities, but you cannot have equality of outcomes. Life will always be unfair. Police officers should do their job and treat everyone equal, responding purely to the facts in front of them. They should not be trying to monitor or reduce racial disparities in outcomes at a system level - it’s not possible firstly, and secondly it takes their focus away from the situation at hand. Henry’s case did that - and look at the outcome (which you care so much about).

Desperatelydoomscrolling · 04/06/2026 08:04

No one is ever going to agree on these things because pretty much everyone is sort of right and also sort of wrong (including me I'm sure). It's such an emotive thing and has so many layers in it I'm not sure anyone will find a consensus. Racism has lead to anyone who isn't white (and usually straight and male) being treated badly for a long long time. Now we are tying ourselves up trying to go the other way. Is it always right? I don't think so, but the way it was before was terrible too so we need to find a fair level soon.
But whilst Farage and Friends may have a pearl of legitimate concern under whats being said, is he doing it for the greater good of the people or is he being a goady twat deliberately winding up people with vague statements to get himself into a position of power for his own gain? Im pretty firm in the camp of believing the second. So maybe not arrested but I definitely wish everyone could ignore him so he fades into obscurity.

All I know is I'm getting so tired of all the hate and uglyness.

Backedoffhackedoff · 04/06/2026 08:05

DrMorbius · 04/06/2026 07:54

Question to you Op.
Digwa could have done many things after stabbing this young man. He could just run away, he could have pretended he found the body. Plus much more. BUT he didn't, he got his brother to call the police and HE accused Mr Nowak of a racist assault. Why?,
Simple question, why did he accuse him of racism?

To cover up his crime? As murders generally try to?

officer i didn’t beat my wife to death she came at me with a knife and I was defending myself

QuintadosMalvados · 04/06/2026 08:05

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 07:55

Politicians talked of anger and fury after George Floyd and that is was understandable, they stood with them etc.

Yes they did.
Cheap political gestures such as taking the knee.
Easy when you have no influence over another country.
And they knew it.
No comeback at all for them.

Greenwitchart · 04/06/2026 08:05

Agreed.

That is the second time that he incited violence in two years.

The people we saw in Southampton attacking police officers and causing chaos are not even 'concerned' locals.

They are just right wing goons who were there specifically to start trouble and push their racist agenda.

The family of the victim made it clear they did not want their boy's death to be used for political gain and yet Farage chose to disrespect them and do exactly that.

Farage is vile and a threat to the UK's decency and fairness.

ThumbelinaPocket · 04/06/2026 08:05

Oh sorry - Farage said “pure cold rage”. Not so bad then.

EasternStandard · 04/06/2026 08:06

hairbearbunches · 04/06/2026 08:03

I'm not sure I agree. What happened was the wholesale importing of #blacklivesmatter and #defundthepolice from America, where they really do have a problem with race, into Britain where historically we have been far more cohesive. Starmer and Rayner taking the knee was jaw dropping. It was pathetic.

Agree although I meant the politicians said the anger was understandable, I didn’t put quotes but Khan was one, probably others. It was pretty much the same as the rage stuff.

QuintadosMalvados · 04/06/2026 08:06

Wishing14 · 04/06/2026 08:04

You cannot ever have equality of outcomes. For anything. Should everyone have an equal chance of getting a job as a surgeon despite their IQ? Should striking looking people be paired with plain people to even out attractiveness in offspring? If a family chooses to lay about watching tv all day and another works hard, should they get equal housing, cars, phones and holidays? Who is worse off, a black person or a disabled white person? You have to have equality of opportunities, but you cannot have equality of outcomes. Life will always be unfair. Police officers should do their job and treat everyone equal, responding purely to the facts in front of them. They should not be trying to monitor or reduce racial disparities in outcomes at a system level - it’s not possible firstly, and secondly it takes their focus away from the situation at hand. Henry’s case did that - and look at the outcome (which you care so much about).

Well said.

GeneralPeter · 04/06/2026 08:06

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 07:54

The family’s wishes should be front and centre. The leaders of every political party except Farage are respecting them. Farage is a disrupter, if he have a shit about Henry Nowak and his family he’d pipe down.

This isn’t a good or workable way to run politics

It’s like the “don’t politicize this” objection to debating gun control after a US shooting.

Backedoffhackedoff · 04/06/2026 08:06

QuintadosMalvados · 04/06/2026 08:05

Yes they did.
Cheap political gestures such as taking the knee.
Easy when you have no influence over another country.
And they knew it.
No comeback at all for them.

Or the entire England team which farages thugs will be avidly supporting including beating their wives up in a drunken Rage when England lose

ThumbelinaPocket · 04/06/2026 08:07

ThumbelinaPocket · 04/06/2026 07:47

I don’t think anyone started a BLM riot because Kier Starmer told them to, or because he took the knee. Lots of people were taking the knee. The England football team used to do it before matches (still might for all I know, I don’t watch it much). Is it their fault?

Farage said he wanted people to feel “white cold rage”. Henry Nowak’s father said he didn’t want his death to be the cause of hatred and division.

I can no longer edit my pist

F said pure cold rage.

Stand by the rest of my post though

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 08:07

PinkPonyAnonymous · 04/06/2026 07:43

I love that you think Keir Starmer carries any kind of influence or respect. He’s Labour Leader and PM by default of very few other options, not because he has a popular following. The George Floyd protests would have taken off without him.

Besides, taking a knee is a sign of respect for a man who was murdered by the police. It is not the same thing as encouraging people to rally in the streets. But I don’t expect you will agree with me.

The death of George Floyd is a shameful stain on my country. No person should die at the hands of the police in a circumstance where they pose no imminent threat. Without question, minorities face challenges I will never face. Racism is real. What I object to is the deification of George Floyd; a meth head with a massive criminal record, an abuser of women. But every person has an absolute right to due process. Floyd was denied this fundamental right. Did he "deserve" to die? Absolutely not. But did you know that, proportionally, white and non-black meth heads are killed much more often? George Floyd was a political cudgel used to silence working class non-blacks in the US. His death was used as a political tool to defeat Donald Trump in 2020. It's amazing that the riots stopped just after the election.

Starmer is simply representative of the elite mindset. Sure, he's a wet blanket. But Blair wasn't. Brown wasn't. The pig-diddler Cameron wasn't. Whether due to fear or in an effort to gain voting blocks, they have systematically eroded the ability of white Britons to speak plainly. To call out that minority men were abusing white British girls but being shielded by a government and media too cowardly to tell the truth.

Racist working class white Britons didn't create Farage. Blair, Brown, and Cameron did.

The UK has been a blessing to the world. Its opposition to slavery, universal suffrage, the magna carta, political thinkers like Locke and Mill. These things literally changed the world for the better.

Is it any surprise that when the elites sh*t on miraculous British accomplishments, that people push back? But these elites have made pride in British accomplishments a criminal offense.

The British people should have so much pride in how their country and culture have literally transformed the world for the better. But instead, they have been told that they must have contempt for their history and culture. Instead of pride and a patriotic spirit to continue the great British traditions, the British majority has been told that their history and culture is entirely a point of shame. What nonsense! This imposed contempt leads directly to Farage and Lowe.

What's happening now is the result of poking the bear over and over and over again and them complaining when the bear bites back.

QuintadosMalvados · 04/06/2026 08:09

BIossomtoes · 04/06/2026 08:02

Nobody’s saying anything should be swept under the carpet and you’re absolutely right that debate is required. The family said their son’s death should not stir up division but Farage is doing exactly that. He hasn’t suggested any sensible examination of what happened and why, just rage. Rage achieves nothing.

Well unfortunately something like this is going to stir up division.

There's no avoiding it.

People should be angry.

Wishing14 · 04/06/2026 08:09

I don’t believe that the system (ETA in Britain) was inherently racist pre- George Floyd, I believe it was in the past, but that was a long time ago. And I certainly disagree with critical race theory.

BackToLurk · 04/06/2026 08:10

SpaceRaccoon · 04/06/2026 08:03

"Officers in force that failed Nowak ‘pressured’ by diversity course
Some say they felt controlled during racial bias training"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/03/nowak-police-force-officers-felt-pressured-by-diversity/

Absolutely astounding that anyone thought the officers in Hampshire Police needed diversity training.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-55586420

Northern Police Investigation Centre, Basingstoke

'Racist and sexist' Hampshire police unit officers dismissed

Secret recordings revealed "enough profanity, casual sexism and racism to last a lifetime".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-55586420

Roomonthe3rdfloor · 04/06/2026 08:11

Ablondiebutagoody · 04/06/2026 07:15

Get a grip. Farage is right on this one. 2 tier policing based on race is undeniable. Its there in the polices own documentation and training material. Hence Labour trying to make this about Farage.

Get a grip, Farage wouldn’t give a shit if it was a black or brown boy. He is elated he can use poor Henry’s death to further his agenda.

This isn’t about his views on two tier policing, its an excuse to stir up more hate and division, he wants the PM job so he can line his and his rich friends pockets some more.

JuliaBraverman · 04/06/2026 08:11

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 08:07

The death of George Floyd is a shameful stain on my country. No person should die at the hands of the police in a circumstance where they pose no imminent threat. Without question, minorities face challenges I will never face. Racism is real. What I object to is the deification of George Floyd; a meth head with a massive criminal record, an abuser of women. But every person has an absolute right to due process. Floyd was denied this fundamental right. Did he "deserve" to die? Absolutely not. But did you know that, proportionally, white and non-black meth heads are killed much more often? George Floyd was a political cudgel used to silence working class non-blacks in the US. His death was used as a political tool to defeat Donald Trump in 2020. It's amazing that the riots stopped just after the election.

Starmer is simply representative of the elite mindset. Sure, he's a wet blanket. But Blair wasn't. Brown wasn't. The pig-diddler Cameron wasn't. Whether due to fear or in an effort to gain voting blocks, they have systematically eroded the ability of white Britons to speak plainly. To call out that minority men were abusing white British girls but being shielded by a government and media too cowardly to tell the truth.

Racist working class white Britons didn't create Farage. Blair, Brown, and Cameron did.

The UK has been a blessing to the world. Its opposition to slavery, universal suffrage, the magna carta, political thinkers like Locke and Mill. These things literally changed the world for the better.

Is it any surprise that when the elites sh*t on miraculous British accomplishments, that people push back? But these elites have made pride in British accomplishments a criminal offense.

The British people should have so much pride in how their country and culture have literally transformed the world for the better. But instead, they have been told that they must have contempt for their history and culture. Instead of pride and a patriotic spirit to continue the great British traditions, the British majority has been told that their history and culture is entirely a point of shame. What nonsense! This imposed contempt leads directly to Farage and Lowe.

What's happening now is the result of poking the bear over and over and over again and them complaining when the bear bites back.

Edited

Well said

SaturdayNext · 04/06/2026 08:12

YourGoldSquid · 04/06/2026 07:09

Someone is a bit salty that Farage is right. And you can no longer deny it. The proof is undeniable.

And unless your called out Starmer for stoking racial violence after St. Floyd, you have no moral authority to lecture anyone about Farage encouraging "rage." Perhaps rage from the working class majority is exactly what is needed.

Starmer did not stoke racial violence.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 04/06/2026 08:12

radioX · 04/06/2026 07:29

Sorry op but two tier policing is absolutely a thing. Here in Birmingham especially the police go and speak to the leaders of the Muslim community when some of the younger generation are acting less than desirable, if that was anyone else not Muslim they would be arrested. The police are absolutely afraid of being called racist and so is Starmer. Open your eyes !

It’s scary people are denying it.
Maybe they have genuinely not come across it, or maybe they have an agenda.
The agenda being “nothing to see here, look over there”.

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