To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

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I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

Well guess you also have issues with rich/powerful men then - Epstein anyone - what accounts for their reprehensible behaviours?

Don’t be so bloody ridiculous. This very voluntary and deliberate faux confusion over ‘X men are more likely to offend than Y men’ and ‘Y men never offend at all’ is absolutely pathetic.

Its it school time? You must be missing lessons

I find the mixed approach odd. On one hand there is talk of upholding laws and oth Labour pushes for riot gear on French beaches. But on arrival this switches. What a mess.

Plus the vast networking and criminality which has unsurprisingly grown due to laws from last century, it’s a multi billion trade. It’s profitable to the point it’s run with marketing and as I just heard people sign legal disclaimers before passage.

On your point being honest about migration and how many we’d need to take in the next few decades to share it globally could be said, but idk if people would just accept whatever that is.

Well it isn’t a lie at all - try Google - but you don’t have to read my posts of course.

Haha - that’s a great response to avoid the question.

I actually agree. I worked in those hotels when the protests were happening and all they did was traumatise already traumatised little kids. It was incredibly cruel as many of the hotels house women and children who have suffered terrible things and children who were still screaming at night after experiencing bombing The way to address this is through the proper channels. Writing to your MP etc. Im actually pretty please with Shabana Mahmoods policies. They really should help. My view is that we should simply do what we did with the Ukrainians. Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members. In this way we can compassionately help the most vulnerable and ensure integration as they will spend the first 6 months living in British Homes and being helped by those who have volunteered and who have cultural capital.
Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.

I’m asking genuine questions - and I’m not pretending men of any nationality don’t violently and abhorrently abuse women - this is the biggest issue - don’t you pretend it doesn’t happen.

Actually main differences seem to be money/power - in that it seems to be your average foreign guy caught for such crimes, and having the whole of his nation villified for it - but often here/the west it’s the higher placed guys who get away with more as they can cover and get it covered up and no one considers villifying all white men.

Think you need to read the full article instead of posting selectively.

“But Sweden had thousands more reported rapes, and there is no ethnic breakdown for those”.

"We are very clear in the programme that it is a small percentage of the people coming from abroad who are convicted of rape," chief editor Ulf Johansson told the BBC.
He pointed out that the number of reported rapes in Sweden was far higher, so no conclusions could be drawn on the role of immigrants in sexual attacks.”

@Dmsandfloatydress It's a nice, idyllic idea but it would not work.

Homes for refugees but just women and children with no way to bring adult male members.
The problem is that the rest of the world sends their men, not their women.They are not the same as us.

Better still, rural areas should be prioritised so that refugees have no choice but to become completely immersed in British Culture.
They've ruined the cities, and now we should ruin the last bastions of British culture? No thanks.

Thank you. It’s certainly the hatred upsets me most - I actually don’t think that even if a hotel housed a full set of criminals that we should try and attack/burn it down - I don’t think it’s great for our society - it isn’t part of our values and it saddens me - there are other ways.

It is particularly horrible for traumatised people - it must have been hard to work there. One counter protest at a hotel I attended that should have been the day they played footie with other local teams - obviously they were locked down. This doesn’t help with integration though and nor does hearing folk screaming ‘paedo’ ‘go home’ either tbf. I counter this to let them know some folk are ok here. But there are many better ways to protest.

I actually don’t like Labour’s immigration rhetoric or policies - but I’m ok to agree to differ on that - what I’m not sure about is that these policies are addressing people’s concerns, directly, and reducing immigration massively - what else is required?

Mahmood’s policies are and will do the opposite of what you’re after. They will pretty much stop women and children applying.

The hatred of Afghan women by the men that are supposed to protect them?… oh wait

I could never be more upset about ‘hatred’ as a concept than I am the rape, torture and paedophilia going on in Afghanistan. You can hold two thoughts at once.

I’m sorry - what had this to do with how we protest outside hotels? How we handle immigration?

You are super focussed on Afghanistan - it’s becoming a bit of a concern tbh. This stuff happens all over the world though Afghanistan is under nearly the worst regime in the world. You must spend your life very, very upset and I recommend you step off the news and sm to avoid hearing anything distressing to you.

And until and unless you have personally walked in those shoes of Afghan people I’d hold off these extreme judgments.

Nobody's saying anything of the sort. Of course, we know sexual crimes are commonly committed by indigenous men, but per head of population, that pales in comparison to that which is committed by foreign men, particularly of a certain culture.

There have been cases of women and girls being raped, after being dragged off the street, during the day. It could be that they don't realise that our Police will react.

Why not? It worked for Ukrainians. Just let it be known that we won't be accepting any asylum claims from men at all. Men cause almost all of the problems people are fleeing from anyway. We keep your women and kids safe and you brave men go home and fix your country.

This could happen but you’d need an Aus style system with humanitarian visas.

What is being compared in those statistics ?

Afghan migrants are overwhelmingly young males. So their “per-capita” is among a population of young males.

The British “per-capita” is measured against the whole British population - Grandmas included.

It would be appropriate if The Centre for Migration Control (which is in fact just one guy with a remit to faux-scientifically blame migrants for anything and everything, paid for by right-wing lobbyists) used the same young male demographic as the background population for their UK figures.

But they didn’t. Why ?

No, don’t prioritise rural areas. They are the last bastions of an age where life wasn’t drained of colour, freedom and possibility. People who live there appreciate, revere and respect the culture.

I used to wonder how Soviet Russians could swallow such utter horseshit about things being good in their uniform grey groupthink drab dead lives.

But I’ve watched the country I love go that way for decades. Importing millions from the incompatible cultures some of us were thrilled to escape, has been a total disaster. No integration and two-tier everything has simultaneously emboldened those who have a dystopian world view.

I weep for my adopted country. I will vote for Rupert Lowe. The most unexpected revolutionary figure. No beret or guillotine; a ruddy face and a Barbour and the only patriot on the horizon.

Ironic really.

Given that rural areas suffer from young people moving away from them in droves to seek exactly that colour and freedom you espouse in urban areas.

Imagine our army on the beaches. Imagine that every man arriving on a small boat, gets loaded into another boat, and taken back to France and left on the beach there, and then small boat is confiscated and destroyed. How long would it take for men to stop paying £10k for passage across the channel?

Operation Sovereign Borders in Australia did exactly this, and the problem was solved almost overnight.

Why aren't we doing this?

Not every country is party to the refugee convention. We have to be strict and harsh to them unfortunately.

Ironic really. I’m espousing colour and freedom in the country, not the towns.

Of course kids want lights and fun. But our cities are no go crime ridden shitholes not the exciting place you’d go for a career or to find a partner.

Our rural towns and high streets are so decimated there are no longer options for the horses that want to bring up young families in safety and in a familiar culture.

Hear hear! We have enough home grown rapists, we don't need more. Even one more is one too many.

Taking women refugees in similar numbers would not pose the same risk and generally speaking they also need refuge more than the men.