To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

[Jane379]

I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

Where does this "90%" stat come from? When you say sexually abused do you mean actual assault or a one off comment (which is still totally wrong)

And yes foreign men are well over represented per capita wise. There's no way on earth Somalia is as safe for a woman than the west. We all know we'd rather be in the west.

Where would you feel safer as a woman... Kabul or Krakow?

I love asking people this question, because they can't answer it as deep down they know what the truth is.

@Samysungy?

Jesus Fuck..

Now come on! You are minimising the appalling abuse of women in Afghanistan by saying they are 'copying our culture' What a stupid thing to say. I am a woman in the UK. I have a job, an education, am allowed to speak in public, I was playing with dolls at 9, rather than being forced into marriage to a 40 year old.

Again, you are reading things in that I never said. Where in my post there did I say the capita figures are correct?

You quoted a guy who said he thinks its likely asylum seekers commit more crimes but that a possible reason is due to the age of asylum seekers but that we can't know because we don't have the data.

We don't have the data is the very clear takeaway from all this. But you seem determined to take away that the figures show asylum seekers commit sex offences at the same rate as British citizens in the same age range. You are inventing that because it suits your pre-existing politics. The simple fact is we don't know as we don't have the data. As Ben said.

We really need to start capturing the data. There are reasonable grounds to hypothesise that migrants from some cultures are more likely to commit sex offences. We need to collect the data to establish if that is true or not.

In UK law women are equal,

so you can shove your tradition up your arse.

and I’ve lived in that culture. I’m not going back.

May I ask what country?

You may but I won’t respond I’m afraid.

But anyone here pretending it’s not a huge cultural disconnect and a couple of months of being ‘integrated’ with suggestions of ‘and dont rape western women please’ might have an effect, is living in another universe.

The naivety of some posters who have no experience of other cultures is terrifying.

Nope. I never said the rates are the same. I said we don’t know and cannot know.

That challenges the OP’s assumption that “so many migrants have committed sexual assaults”.

Can I ask what you think of the UK now, compared to when you first moved here?

Absolutely agree

Having lived in a country where woman are not equal I truly value being treated as an equal. Of course there is misogyny here in the UK, misogynistic men but in law we are equal, we can take control of our lives the law and society allows us to do this, in many countries it does not. Peoples culture/values and expectations do not suddenly change because they have a better life many people want to stay in the comfort zone of what is normal to them

There are definitely countries in the world were crimes against women is more prevalent.

I see OP hasn't come back ...

Oh come on now! What caused the downfall of the Shah's regime was that it was doing all the things the current regime is now also doing - it was a horrific dictatorship. So there was a revolution and sadly, people ended up going from the frying pan into the fire. Nothing to do with 'leftist women', you are making that up.

@HRTQueen I work with men and it's still a very myslgenitic culture ...and thats with training and laws etc .

We can't imagine how far behind these other countries are.
.we so see it however in 2nd /3 generation immigrants and women still on the back footmand and that's with exposure to UK

Of course. I still love this country very much but there is an intolerance on the left now that frightens me.

i have seen the education system go from one that valued intelligence, encouraged independent and radical thinking and knew how to foster civilised debate to indoctrination.

Now all views seem homogeneous and prescribed and predictable and cult-like. I love having my mind changed; now we don’t want to listen at all, just shout. It’s sad.

Socially, people have more things but fewer people seem to read books or want to mix with those who are different. By that I mean sit down and eat with someone of another faith or political persuasion and genuinely enjoy the differences.

Unfettered immigration has not been kind to Britain. It’s created ghettoes and people who are afraid of them and people determined to defend cultures they simply don’t understand.

And the telly and radio are pretty uniformly shit now. But that might be because I’m quite old and can’t be arsed with bare bums and the like.

I could go on😂; is that the kind of thing you were asking?

The link posted earlier in this thread
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf
shows that ethic minorities are 18% of the UK population but 27% of the prison population. Foreign nationals (52% of them from other European countries) were 12% of prisoners.

The teenaged rapists who were recently let off without jail after raping two girls were from a white ethnic minority group.

This whataboutery is truly frustrating!! ONE EXTRA RAPIST IS TOO MANY!!!

So that shows that white people are more likely to get away without conviction or receive more lenient sentences. A two-tier system indeed.

Are you sure about that. A quick google comes back with studies on the left support.

The answer is anywhere without men. But then you'd call us misandrists.
Men are the problem, the world over.

Ok so why rely on an asylum system that is male centric?

Plus not choosing is a bit of an out. Most would find it easy to choose for their dc even if they won’t post it on here.

I don't think there is an inherent difference in men the world over. Men here know we have money to catch them using DNA, surveillance and other means. In poorer countries I am sure they do what they like. Men are the problem though wherever you are.