To wonder why so many male migrants have committed sexual assaults:even if they are evil people, wouldn't staying in the UK be an incentive to abide by the law?

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I KNOW that plenty of the men who come are not evil and don't want to commit sexual assault. But clearly a number who have come are, and there's strong evidence that male migrants are disproportionately lileky to do so.

This almost surely at least partly caused by misogynistic culture in various areas meaning back home they perceived uncovered women as permissible to assault. But surely they know it's different here? That they will likely be caught? They are at least more likely to be punished here for assault.

Or are they convinced our police system will let them off?

Or they're not aware our norms are different?

Or just don't care about the consequences?

I wonder also if criminals are in a sense selected for since they may have little to tie them to their home countries, or even be escaping punishment there.

I think Rupert Lowe has the right idea.

Stay here if you respect our culture, traditions, preference not to be raped or rig our voting system.

Otherwise we have no obligation to feel afraid on our own streets.

And I’m not the only who thinks like this by an astonishing degree. Ten years ago I would have concerns about feeling this way.

Now I don’t care. I’ve had enough of imported violence and rape and murder.

Again. We should deal with our own. And she was imprisoned.

No need to bring in foreign criminals as well.

@Weeallthewayhome it's all very well saying stay here if you respect our laws/ ethics and customs but who is going to tell them what they are and make sure that they understand what they are especially around women esp as it's often interwoven with their religion and is all that's been taught ??

They had to give them anti rape lessons in Norway

You say that like it’s all bad - it’s good Norway works on integration. We should do more of that here.

This is fascinating. You are reading something that is not there. Ben does not agree with you. He is stating the data is not there. And speculating on what he thinks is likely to be there and why.
Its noteworthy that the speculatively explanation he offers is one that fits with his political opinions, so yes there is arguably some emotion in his reply. Another possible explanation for higher rates of rapes by asylum seekers is because of the culture they come from. And there will be other possible explanations, and possibly a combination of explanations ( youth plus culture, for example).

The fact is, we don't know because as Ben says, the data is not there.

Again. These shouldn't be needed in the first place. Why do you want these people here?

Well it is but its shocking that they should even think it's ok to shove their dicks where they are not wanted.

Everyone just ignores these cases when they happen. People just ignore the per capita data which clearly shows more danger than the local/native population.

Well we offered 20,000 Afghans safety if they supported us in the war - so there’s that reason for some.

Similarly, previous settlement schemes for Syrians. Also ongoing , if very limited, safe routes from different places.

I would like to live in a country that offers asylum - we don’t help with wars, nor with cutting foreign aid either - but even if we didn’t then many refugees are already here and some will continue to arrive and some from different cultures will be here/come here on visas to help prop up our country.

So actually whether you want ‘them here’ or not there will always be refugees from other countries, visa holders filling the gaps, and I think teaching and supporting integration can only be a good thing.

It is possibly actually less shocking from ‘their culture’ than the guys who continue to do this from ‘our culture’ - if you are following the line of argument on here.

The us offered an Afghan asylum for helping them and then he shot 2 guardsmen.

No need to import extras in ffs

The US took more than the U.K. - so this is absolutely dreadful but a small percentage - don’t forget the absolute trauma everyone took away from Afghanistan either - some of this was knowable and support/integration could have helped.

Source?

But you seem very confident that the per-capita figures are correct.

And my position is they are not because they don’t compare the same demographic cohorts.

Which is exactly what the guy said.

Tragic as that case is, it was not cold blooded murder. Murder is premeditated.

I do think that both Cookson and the owner should have been given longer sentences, but I think she was convicted of gross negligence so sentencing guidelines are followed.

Per capita stats have already been given. Some of our friends in the EU clearly track this and the over representation is clearly shown

And the Danish data, polish data and German data?

For the same reason that many British males commit sexual assaults.

They are copying our culture. We have a culture of controlling and abusing women and girls.

Our culture is one of misogyny so you could say they listened when the white man said "When in Rome...."

Absolutely what are your plans for removing visas for all men?

Do people think the west and the third world is exactly the same for VAWG? Would you rather be a woman in the west or on Sudan and Somalia?

0.3 is not an over representation.

What we have is a bias in the system that works for the white rapist...

Nope but we do not play oppression olympics and minimise what women and girls in the west experience. When 90% of girls in our schools are sexually abused by boys then we have a major issue here. To say it is not a problem as 99% girls in Sudan experience so it is worse....really just says it is not a problem that our girls are sexually abused day in day out in school.

All have the same root cause....misogyny!

Lol