AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Nope, the victim told police he'd been stabbed. That bit of information wasn't wrong - it was correct, yet police just assumed he was lying and it was the ethnic guy who was telling the truth. That's biased and simply not acceptable.

A mistake where someone uses bad judgement is redeemable. A mistake where an innocent young man loses his life is a tragedy beyond measure . I feel sorry for the policemen involved as my mind would be tortured.

But they dont there are up to 20 thousand preventable deaths caused by drs every year in the uk. 20k drs in the uk aren't being fired every year and going to jail for manslaughter

Exactly what was said about those wanting brexit, those wanting Trump as a leader, and those wanting Reform to run the UK. Yet they keep winning votes and all you do is insult them from a smug position of moral superiority. You, and your like, are part of the problem because you think being morally right and judgemental is all you have to do.
Why not cut the insults and try and use your superior intellectual capacity to understand why Britain has moved from one of the most tolerant societies on the planet to these kind of events in less than a generation. The vast majority of people who support this kind of extreme activity or even parties like Reform wouldn't have dreamed that they would be supporting them 10 or 20 years ago. They have been labelled and ignored, which history tells us is exactly how extreme ideology can gain traction.

You're doing the labelling, which is just what the extremist want.

It's weird that they have taken a case of police incompetence, likely driven by the perpetrator being Sikh, specifically and making it a general "attack immigrants/ non-whites" party. They are pathetic.

@HopelessPessimist This is the knee-jerk response that happens whenever you have a government that is too lazy to secure borders, and prioritises nonsense like "hate speech" over real crime.

Stupid policies breed extremists.

If we had a common-sense country with common-sense laws, then the extremism you are currently seeing would still be confined to a tiny minority, the way it was a few decades ago.

Apparently the unbelievably callous male police officer in the video hasn't even had the decency to resign. I doubt he has much of a conscience.

But they didn't assume when the police woman was checking for stab wounds. The ethnic bloke said he was lying and she said but we still need to check and they did look. Did you even watch the video

Have you watched the video? Why are you so keen to defend these police officers? Your whataboutery is a fucking joke.

Exactly. Farage basically called for violence today with his 'cold hard rage' speech, and it's going to happen as his idots heard him.

But if this instance actually leads to stamping out racial bias in how police engage with the public (which black Britons have been calling for for decades) that would be one good thing to come out of this tragedy.

I won't hold my breath.

Henry was called a liar, the police chose to believe the murderer over a young boy who had been stabbed multiple times.

His father, Mark, said: "Henry told officers that he could not breathe nine times. He told them that he had been stabbed four times. Henry was pulled across the gravel, his hands forced behind his back and he was placed in handcuffs."

Footage released by the force, with permission from Nowak's family, shows him pleading "I've been stabbed" and an officer replying "I don't think you have mate".

What do borders have to do with anything? There are no immigrants involved in this story.

As a black woman married to a white man you should feel worried.

Honestly the police are so scared of racist words they can not do the job they are paid to do

Being called racist as a police officer or not dealing with a race related issue is the worse thing for most officers

But it is about race. A white, 18 year old boy was left dying on the ground, disbelieved due to his race. His dying pleas that he couldn't breathe, dismissed

Henry Nowak's family deserves full justice

I was replying to the poster who claimed everything said was wrong - it wasn't - what the victim said was right!

To me that was different, in that and the other US protests the victims had actually been murdered by a police officer. I'm not saying the police in Henry's case shouldn't be prosecuted, but that there crime was extreme negligence perhaps manslaughter. Also, the US cases happened in US and didn't directly affect my country. This is unsettling because it is being tied into a larger movement around Christianity and old fashioned ideas about women and I find that unsettling.

And here we go with another one.

Cool it. Let facts come out.

This was not the same as George Floyd and, thank goodness, our police are not America’s, nor are we here Americans.

Unless you make it so.

You are being silly. One of the police officers has already resigned, which is tantamount to an admission of wrong doing.

I would expect a police officer to have the common sense and wit to be able to identify whether a person lying in front of them has been stabbed.

Im not a police officer but I would imagine a good 50% of people getting arrested say they can't breath.

Have you watched the video?

The sudden embracing of Christian slogans by right wing protesters seems ludicrously inauthentic.
Hopefully the abuse of Christianity as a cloak for nationalism and racism (chanting the Lords Prayer for example) will make it easier for people to see that Islamist violence is similarly an abuse of religion that has nothing to do with the actual religious practices of millions of peaceful Muslims.

It’s like Southport again
1 in 5 of them have been arrested for Dv since

just the sort of people to want protecting your young people

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/26/one-in-five-people-arrested-over-2024-riots-have-since-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

Did you read OP's post?

Well I'm pretty worried about my mixed race daughter and grandchildren.