AIBU to feel deeply unsettled by the Southampton protest scenes?

[HopelessPessimist]

Southampton protest against police, huge crowd, Tommy Robinson whipping everyone into a frenzy and saying "this IS about race"

Other speakers declaring that England is a Christian country. The Lords Prayer chanted by every speaker. The leader of UKIP saying he will deport all migrants and make government Christian. The leaders of the protest saying they are being pushed by the police cordon, while the camera angle shows the police haven't moved. The leaders of the protest mocking the female police officer who are taking over a shift from another police officer in the cordon "They're replacing all the men with women!"

This is awful. It feels like the start of civil war. Maybe human beings just aren't supposed to go decades without a fight.

Agree - why are Sikh boys wandering around with these weapons - surely one rule for thee and one for me!

One resigned when she realised what actually happened because she knows they royally fucked up.

No they didn't they checked him and called an ambulance

He must've been so scared when he realised that policeman didn't believe and wasn't going to help him. And the fact that some of the last words he ever heard were his rights being read for a crime he didn't commit 💔.

Why are you ignoring the information Henry Nowak gave the police? You are doing the same as they did in discounting what he was saying. Why?

Oh for heaven’s sake, you really are scraping that unsavoury barrel now.

Well no it’s not your point as you criticised Left counter protests. So you think the Right should be allowed to protest but not the Left.

Absolutely. He's rubbing his hands with glee.

I would say she resigned because she felt like absolute shit afterwards they where all found innocent of any wrong doing.

'A whole thread of blaming the police instead of the actual murderer'

Yes. Instead of the murderer, and instead of the 2 tier policing system these employees have been indoctrinated into.

The individual police on duty should not be used as scapegoats for a very obviously failing 2 tier organisation.

Ik it’s unbearable.

Plus the ‘he hasn’t been stabbed’ and ‘I know but..’

All of it. Just so awful.

Not this rubbish again why don't people read properly? The one fifth DV is for people ARRESTED not just protesting. The vast number of people protesting Southport were protesting peacefully (I know as I watched it quite closely). It is not surprising that people arrested for violence have since been arrested for other violent acts - I expect it's the same for those arrested at so-called "left-wing" protests. I understand exactly why people are protesting -the first job of government is keeping people safe and this govt (and the last to a lesser degree) are failing massively partly because of this DEI rubbish which also led to the Manchester Arena bomber not being stopped as a security guard was scared of being called racist if he stopped a brown man with a rucksack and Rudabukana and Valdo Calcone also not being stopped and this is a further example as the police believed the brown man over the white man and didn't even handcuff him! People are rightly angry.

I agree. He would have seen the police turn up, after being surrounded by the murderer and his family while he lay on the floor in pain and struggling to breathe, and thought he would finally be helped. And instead.....

Not at all.

Disparaging the family of a murder victim? Nice.

No matter how many times they hear it they still have a duty to look for injury
especially when you have a slim framed young boy who can’t even sit up and is completely pale and unmoving. He was zero threat to anyone and should have been examined

that’s what it so disgusting here. It should have been obvious that he wasn’t capable of knocking a turban off! He was on the ground and still.

So what’s the issue with counter protests.

Incompetence? Oh my word. Cruelty and inhumane treatment more like.

Ignoring what he said he's been stabbed they said where he didn't answer they lifted his shirt checked his back assumed he was talking about his face. Their was no large puddle of blood which anyone would expect from a stabbing then they called an ambulance.

Yes, I can see how parents of young white people say that - after the evidence of the rape/grooming gangs, for example.

The problem is, there is still (anti-black/brown) racism, and the police can still be pretty (anti-black/brown) racist, as much as the rest of Britain can be. Doesn't mean we all are racist - but there's still a bit of it about, as I'm sure black MNers can attest to.

It's almost like these high-profile cases where the police try to be non-racist are an over correction of the basic racist assumptions of the police and the rest of UK society.

It is just too heartbreaking for words. Poor boy, his poor bloody parents and wider family.

Maybe some of the protesters are just using this for an excuse for violence and disorder, maybe a lot of them, but fuck me, if something like this doesn’t stir deep rage within the population, what would?

@youalright have you seen the photograph of Henry's hand?
It's blue. That's the colour you go when there is no oxygen reaching your extremities. I can tell you it would have been freezing cold to touch too
If his hand looked like that, his lips would have been deep blue and cyanosed, as would likely the tip of his nose
That mottling blue is what happens very close to death
Anybody with even the most basic first aid training and experience of seeing deceased people, would recognise this instantly
I'm sure people do say they can't breathe, but it was startlingly obvious Henry couldn't
There's no excuse

What on earth does this have to do with “DEI” (which is not solely about ethnicity)?

Or - they meant it.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage are not welcome on my doorstep, regardless of the reason.

Southport, now this. Stop using the horrendous deaths of people you have absolutely nothing to do with, to make shitty points and divisive protests.

Vile.

They looked for stab wounds and couldn't see any there wasn't a puddle of blood. They called an ambulance for him. It all happened quickly and every piece of information they had been given was wrong

They looked for fuck all. "No you haven't mate" when he told them he'd been stabbed. By the time one of them bothered their arse to look at the dying, handcuffed boy, his pupils were fixed.