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To not let DH go to this woman’s house?

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Fellohesh · Today 15:39

A couple of months ago, we went out with some friends who all met up at our house before leaving together to go to town. Before they arrived, DH put his jacket on but I didn’t think it matched the outfit and I also just didn’t think it was very nice in general. I told him so but he said he likes it so he’s wearing it.

When everyone arrived, one of the women said “what’s going on with your outfit?” to DH, and he asked why she didn’t like it. She said something about the jacket and DH disappeared upstairs and came down wearing a new one and said “is that better?”. I felt hurt at the time that he didn’t value my opinion but cared about what she thought of him. The next day I asked if he fancied her, to which he replied “she’s attractive” I said if we weren’t together would he ask her out and he said maybe (the convo was longer of course but I’m trying to keep this short and give the gist).

He came home from work yesterday saying this same woman is training to be a hairdresser and has offered to cut his hair for free while she practices. He has thick wavy hair and gets a scissor cut so it’s not just a simple trim with the clippers. However, she doesn’t have a salon or anything as she isn’t qualified so it would be at her house. AIBU to say no to this?

OP posts:
Boreded · Today 17:04

Fellohesh · Today 15:47

He has known her for a short while but not very well. She worked behind the bar of one of the pubs he goes to sometimes, but she was only there for a few months. She is the sister of his friends wife so that’s why she came along that day, as her sister invited her. It was the first time I met her.

She messaged him on instagram saying she wondered if he would mind her practicing on him as the only male hair cuts she has done have been with clippers and she would like the experience. But I don’t like it and have a weird feeling

You have a feeling because there is something to be concerned about.

you need to ask him if he really wants to risk your relationship for the potential affair he is heading towards. If he is a good man he will realise and back away swiftly

Iwannaeatapasty · Today 17:04

Inmyuggs · Today 17:02

Perfectly ok to offer to cut someones hair while in training to practise if he has a type of hair she likes..god help or or needs to practise on.
Perhaps realosing he is a human and we interact with one anither and strike up friendships including the opposite gender.
Never use the term he is allowed...he is his own person not allowing time, opnion...i appreicate attractive people be it male or female...gosh so insecure are some of you.

Oh give over.

Anyone can see this for what it is.

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 17:06

Iwannaeatapasty · Today 17:03

This exactly.

When my ex husband left me for a work colleague I was called mad by a lot of people for “letting” him spend time with her on work trips and not putting my foot down.

What would that have achieved? “Oh gosh, my wife said no! I best not enter into an affair.”

I saw it coming a mile off (little things like OP, I would give him advice; he would laugh at me. She would say the same thing and he would act on it immediately.

so I prepared to leave him, and did. He had one foot out the door himself anyway.

Exactly. When you get to the point where the trust is gone from a marriage trying to police the behaviour of the spouse achieves nothing except to make him or her more dishonest and evasive than they were before.

The marriage is already dead in the water. Trying to control someone won’t revive it!

Fellohesh · Today 17:07

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Today 16:55

I personally wouldn’t let him go or I’d go with him. Can you record their interaction if he did go? Why can’t she come to your house (with you there)? You don’t want to be the woman posting here because you think your DH is having an affair. Is the woman single?

I was going to suggest her coming to ours but I didn’t want to being it up again tbh. She is single yeah

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MyMilchick · Today 17:09

Fellohesh · Today 17:07

I was going to suggest her coming to ours but I didn’t want to being it up again tbh. She is single yeah

Don't suggest that, why would you want to encourage them spending time together? I'm sure she can find another mans hair to cut

Fellohesh · Today 17:10

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 16:58

You don’t “let” or “not let” another grown adult do anything.

It enrages me when people talk about “letting” their spouse do something as if he were a wayward child you can ground at will. Like this awful phrase “nip this in the bud” which is regularly wheeled out on threads where a man is being shady. It’s not possible for one adult to stop another adult from being unfaithful.

Its a world where the wife is mum and the husband is like a naughty child constantly chasing after women and avoiding the back of her hand like something from the Benny Hill Show. Marriage through guilt, duty and coercion. It doesn’t work.

If you are with someone who is trying to get as far as he can in cheating you can’t and shouldn’t try to curb or stop his behaviour: its a waste of time and energy. You should be leaving him with your dignity intact.

I agree with you

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MrTiddlesTheCat · Today 17:13

SaturdayFive · Today 15:59

Very naive. He's not willing to turn her down himself, he'll just say "OP wouldn't let me." He knows full well it's not ok.

This. I once read a very well written post on MN that explained this behaviour so well. It's all about shifting responsibility onto the partner. 'But you agree to it!'

I believe the suggested response to this type of question was 'think about what a good/decent husband would do, and do that'.

Fellohesh · Today 17:15

MrTiddlesTheCat · Today 17:13

This. I once read a very well written post on MN that explained this behaviour so well. It's all about shifting responsibility onto the partner. 'But you agree to it!'

I believe the suggested response to this type of question was 'think about what a good/decent husband would do, and do that'.

That’s such a good answer and I wish I would’ve said that

OP posts:
Boreded · Today 17:19

MrTiddlesTheCat · Today 17:13

This. I once read a very well written post on MN that explained this behaviour so well. It's all about shifting responsibility onto the partner. 'But you agree to it!'

I believe the suggested response to this type of question was 'think about what a good/decent husband would do, and do that'.

I’ve said something similar to my husband before - not because he was doing anything, just in a general conversation about people…’if you wouldn’t want your wife to find out, then don’t do it’

simple really. Don’t do something if you know it is wrong because even if you try to dress it up as ok it won’t be

StFrideswide · Today 17:21

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CieloElmers · Today 17:23

What makes you think she might also find him attractive?

Popdropper · Today 17:25

The fact that he seemed disappointed when you said you wouldn't be ok with it would be worrying me OP and I would be concerned about her messaging further on Instagram too. Your DH is right on the edge of disrespecting you and your marriage and I would be pointing that out in no uncertain terms and throwing a hefty bucket of cold water over any ideas he might have about sneaking this woman into his life under your radar.

I would be saying 'I noticed you were disappointed when I said I wouldn't be ok with her cutting your hair, you do realise that the instant I sense your interest shifting elsewhere I will be off like a shot don't you?' That way no one can say he didn't know what he was risking and if you get the slightest sniff of anything else happening you will know it's time to walk away because he's fundamentally disloyal.

TrufflePigs · Today 17:26

The next day I asked if he fancied her

Good lord!!!!!

waterrat · Today 17:26

I cannot imagine ANY circumstances in which my husband would say he would go out with another woman if he wasn't with me. Did you badger that out of him or did he acctually say it ???? It's just wildly inappropriate and disrespectful.

godmum56 · Today 17:27

ThejoyofNC · Today 15:44

YABU for use of the term "not let him". He's a grown man and that's controlling language.

YANBU to not want him to go and to have a discussion about it.

This. I mean how will you stop him?

TheseWordsAreMine · Today 17:28

Divorce him and take up dogging.

SylvanMoon · Today 17:39

Fellohesh · Today 16:43

It is not rude to tell your husband his jacket doesn’t suit what he’s wearing! I’ll be honest…. I have told him to take something off before as it just looks so bad. It was smart suit trousers with cowboy boots 😕😕😕 he usually dresses very cool in my opinion, a little “quirky” (hate that word but I guess it’s the right one to use), and usually looks good. But now and then he just pairs things together that do not look right. I don’t agree that telling him “that’s not a good pairing, it looks daft” is rude in the slightest

I agree @Fellohesh. I sometimes joke with my DH whether his mother dressed him that morning or did he choose to pair those things all by himself? And I would expect him to tell me if something I was intending to wear looked weird (and he does). It's not controlling behaviour: it's part of being in a loving partnership where you care about how the other will be received/perceived in a social situation.

CaesarAugusta · Today 17:39

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · Today 15:57

He hasn't exactly done anything wrong here has he?

He changed his jacket presumably because two people had now taken the piss out of it. It's not that he doesn't value your opinion but does hers, it's that having had two people tell him it looks daft in short order he'll have thought "I'm going to get this all night"

And then he answered you honestly when you asked him some stupid questions. He's not said he fancies her or wants to go out with her, he's said that she's an attractive woman who he might go out with if you didn't exist.

And then he's taken up an offer of a free haircut.

Unless there's something missing from your post OP, your jealousy seems to be the problem here, rather than anything to do with your husband

I second all of that.

If you're really bothered, suggest she does the cut at your house.

Motherbear44 · Today 17:44

MirrorMirror1247 · Today 15:44

"What a great idea! I'll come along too and me and her can have a good chat while she's doing your hair!"

See how he reacts to that.

This

ThereIsThunderInOurHearts · Today 17:46

Fellohesh · Today 17:15

That’s such a good answer and I wish I would’ve said that

You can still say it to him along the lines of...

"I've been thinking about how Jenny directly contacted you instead of maybe going via your mate [her sister's husband]. It seems to me like she's angling for some private time with you in an intimate setting. All I ask is that you approach her advances like a decent and loyal husband would and realise what you will lose if you let her into our marriage. I can't and won't try to control what you do but I am in control of my response to it."

Wauwinet · Today 17:48

Fellohesh · Today 16:37

Maybe I’m the odd one then because I hardly ever find someone attractive 🤣

You’re not odd. That poster is a man. He just often conveniently forgets to mention that fact until he posts something very male and has a bunch of people scratching their heads and asking him wtf he’s on about.

Anyway, I agree with the general consensus that your husband is a twat and that I wouldn’t have agreed to him going to her house either. Not with his comments about her being attractive and her being single. Simply not appropriate.

BeEagerTurtle · Today 17:48

Short of physical restraint how will you stop him ?

a discussion to air your opinion would probably be a better option

MrSchubertWhiskers · Today 17:49

Yanbu
He is playing with fire and he knows it.

There's a flirtation developing here, he'll deny it to your face but it's still time to tell him he needs to put distance between himself and this woman.

That means no more contact on social media, or by phone, and no casual chats over the bar. It means remaining civil but keeping distant at any social events he may find she's also at and it means being totally transparent with you.

Tink3rbell30 · Today 17:50

Lol no, this is a tale as old time. Let me guess, she's younger, single and pretty. Bonus points for currently "going through a rough time" or recently single. Invite her to yours to "practice cutting hair" or say to DH you will come along to hers. Watch the plan suddenly disappear.

Deerinthglen · Today 17:58

I definitely would not be happy about this. How often does he go to the pub that she works in? Why don't you go with him?

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