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To not let DH go to this woman’s house?

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Fellohesh · Today 15:39

A couple of months ago, we went out with some friends who all met up at our house before leaving together to go to town. Before they arrived, DH put his jacket on but I didn’t think it matched the outfit and I also just didn’t think it was very nice in general. I told him so but he said he likes it so he’s wearing it.

When everyone arrived, one of the women said “what’s going on with your outfit?” to DH, and he asked why she didn’t like it. She said something about the jacket and DH disappeared upstairs and came down wearing a new one and said “is that better?”. I felt hurt at the time that he didn’t value my opinion but cared about what she thought of him. The next day I asked if he fancied her, to which he replied “she’s attractive” I said if we weren’t together would he ask her out and he said maybe (the convo was longer of course but I’m trying to keep this short and give the gist).

He came home from work yesterday saying this same woman is training to be a hairdresser and has offered to cut his hair for free while she practices. He has thick wavy hair and gets a scissor cut so it’s not just a simple trim with the clippers. However, she doesn’t have a salon or anything as she isn’t qualified so it would be at her house. AIBU to say no to this?

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TheBlueKoala · Today 16:46

@Fellohesh She sounds really weird tbh. I wouldn't personally invite someone's husband or even a single guy(that I didn't know very well) to come over and have a haircut unless I was desperate for sex.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · Today 16:46

Fellohesh · Today 16:37

Maybe I’m the odd one then because I hardly ever find someone attractive 🤣

You're definately not alone, I don't think I've ever had so many people quote a post of mine so quickly taking an issue with it!

It may just be a question of semantics? I find lots of people attractive, at least in some way. Maybe it's looks, maybe personality, maybe a sense of humour.

I'll admit I'm not picky, at least not initially. So the questions you asked your husband. "Do you think she's attractive", and "Would you ask her out on a date if you were single", would probably be a yes from me for the vast majority of people in my age bracket. Would that attraction develop into fancying them after that first date? Probably not in most cases, but I'm not going to find out if I don't ask in the first place.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 16:48

Fellohesh · Today 16:43

It is not rude to tell your husband his jacket doesn’t suit what he’s wearing! I’ll be honest…. I have told him to take something off before as it just looks so bad. It was smart suit trousers with cowboy boots 😕😕😕 he usually dresses very cool in my opinion, a little “quirky” (hate that word but I guess it’s the right one to use), and usually looks good. But now and then he just pairs things together that do not look right. I don’t agree that telling him “that’s not a good pairing, it looks daft” is rude in the slightest

Fair enough, I disagree. If my husband told me that a new lipstick didn't suit me or I shouldn't wear heels with that outfit, I wouldn't go change as I'm an adult who makes her own choices. But it would be deflating and quite mean and take the shine off the evening.

Non-sarky question, do you accept it back? If he said look, no offence, those shorts are not flattering or you shouldn't be wearing trainers with that - would you say okay and obediently change?

Fellohesh · Today 16:49

Thank you, I agree with you!

@Frugalgal this was meant for you lol

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DinoDoughnut81 · Today 16:50

To me it sounds like they quite fancy each other, she's DM'd him on whatever pretext to go round to hers.
As others have said, don't be cool. If she wants to practice haircuts for real she can come round to yours or you can go over with him and get to know her as well.
Doubt she wants that though.

Boomer55 · Today 16:51

Freeme31 · Today 16:07

Please don’t try to be one of the “cool” wife's, your looking at your marriage here and he’s just looking at his ego which she is clearly stroking

Yes, but I’ve never let a man tell me where I can or cannot go to. So, I wouldn’t dictate to a man what’s he’s allowed to do. 🤷‍♀️

Maray1967 · Today 16:51

Fellohesh · Today 16:04

But when he changed, he came back down and directly asked her “is that better?” He didn’t ask me.. he didn’t care what I thought, he only cared what she thought. And everyone saw the interaction. They saw her ask him what he was wearing, him IMMEDIATELY rushing upstairs to change and then coming back to ask her opinion. That’s weird and uncomfortable for me. Which is why I asked him what the deal with that was and whether he fancied her.

Yes. If my DH had done that there would have been hell to pay. He ignored you, and listened to her. There is no other way to interpret what happened. If it was a case of another person having criticised it making him reflect he should still have spoken to you not her when he came down. I would accept DH doing that with MIL, but not anyone else.

IdaGlossop · Today 16:52

Fellohesh · Today 16:43

It is not rude to tell your husband his jacket doesn’t suit what he’s wearing! I’ll be honest…. I have told him to take something off before as it just looks so bad. It was smart suit trousers with cowboy boots 😕😕😕 he usually dresses very cool in my opinion, a little “quirky” (hate that word but I guess it’s the right one to use), and usually looks good. But now and then he just pairs things together that do not look right. I don’t agree that telling him “that’s not a good pairing, it looks daft” is rude in the slightest

Revealing that you say 'Told him to take something off'. So not a suggestion, but an order.

MyMilchick · Today 16:52

Boomer55 · Today 16:51

Yes, but I’ve never let a man tell me where I can or cannot go to. So, I wouldn’t dictate to a man what’s he’s allowed to do. 🤷‍♀️

If you read the OPs other posts she says what he asked her was Would she be OK with him going and she said she wouldn't be OK with it, that's not really allowing or forbidding him, he asked her a question and she answered him truthfully

Iwannaeatapasty · Today 16:53

The only thing that having gone out with some idiotic men in life has taught me is that if you make something forbidden they will want it even more.

At the end of the day, if he fancies this women and she likes him (she asked to cut his hair, I’m sure she wouldn’t be so keen on 65 year old Bob from the pub coming over to have a cut), then he will cheat given half the chance anyway.

You can’t tell and adult what to do or let them do something, and he’ll probably see any discussion about her as being controlling - and then in his head, you are the dickhead not him, and it will make her seem even more attractive.

He obviously has a thing for her. There’s nothing you can do about that fact.

All you can do is control your own feelings. If you aren’t comfortable, you tell him that.

If he cares about you he would fully understand, see that it’s upsetting you and keep away from her to save you any upset.

If he doesn’t? If he stomps his feet and says it’s just a cut, she’s just a friend? Well that would tell you all you need to know.

Moveoverdarlin · Today 16:54

I think she sounds quite brazen. If I walked in to a married couple’s house, I would not dream of questioning what the man was wearing in front of his wife. I would be mortified if he changed on my account. I would also not invite a married bloke round to ‘practice on’, I bet she hasn’t asked her grandad or the old bloke next door.

I get people flirt and have affairs but I feel she is being very proactive in her advances, especially since she’s been in your home and is more than aware of your existence.

I would tell my DH it’s a strong fucking no.

Miranda65 · Today 16:55

OP, you don't "let" an adult do something. You might not be keen, but he absolutely doesn't need your permission.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Today 16:55

I personally wouldn’t let him go or I’d go with him. Can you record their interaction if he did go? Why can’t she come to your house (with you there)? You don’t want to be the woman posting here because you think your DH is having an affair. Is the woman single?

Maray1967 · Today 16:56

IdaGlossop · Today 16:52

Revealing that you say 'Told him to take something off'. So not a suggestion, but an order.

Occasionally you need to, in my experience. DH at DS’s graduation was a case in point. I saved him from looking out of place. He huffed and sighed and changed and complained - and then said nothing when we got there and he saw all the dads in the car park dressed like he now was, not like he’d thought was ok.

Bollocks to any thoughts of individual choice. I’m not having him look a scruff at our son’s graduation or our niece’s wedding.

WallaceinAnderland · Today 16:56

I think it's quite telling that he even asked OP if she would be ok with it. He must have known it sounded dodgy as hell to start with.

Would he ask her if she would be ok with Bob cutting his hair? I doubt it.

SaturdayFive · Today 16:56

Frugalgal · Today 16:45

OK, so saying 'not let him' aside, given people think it's controlling, and you can't actually stop him, you are absolutely not being unreasonable.

Imagine (sorry), he goes over to the privacy of her house and he's sitting there with her boobs at eye level as she runs her fingers through his hair and stands really close to him, touching him. Unless she bore a striking resemblance to their own dear nan, most men would find that an erotic experience and would spend the entire time thinking about shagging her and imagining her naked. Now add to the mix that he admits to fancying her and she clearly fancies him or she wouldn't be inviting him over to administer her amateur hairdressing attempts to him.

You may as well be handing him on a plate to her. If he doesn't return home having shagged her I am a monkeys uncle. At the very least he would return home having spent the entire time thinking about shagging her.

Your problem isn't her really, of course, because if all was well in your relationship he wouldn't be transparently wanting to take her up on her obvious come on.

You need to sit him down and say he needs to decide if he's going to work on your relationship to the point where he wouldn't dream of risking it by doing this, or tell you whether it's over and he wants to plough a different furrow. So to speak.

Whatever happens, don't be a wet blanket and let this farce play out in front of you to it's inevitable painful conclusion.

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Agree

Fellohesh · Today 16:57

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 16:48

Fair enough, I disagree. If my husband told me that a new lipstick didn't suit me or I shouldn't wear heels with that outfit, I wouldn't go change as I'm an adult who makes her own choices. But it would be deflating and quite mean and take the shine off the evening.

Non-sarky question, do you accept it back? If he said look, no offence, those shorts are not flattering or you shouldn't be wearing trainers with that - would you say okay and obediently change?

Yes I absolutely accept it back, I would want someone to tell me if something about my outfit looks off or doesn’t go. I would appreciate it.

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Thepeopleversuswork · Today 16:58

You don’t “let” or “not let” another grown adult do anything.

It enrages me when people talk about “letting” their spouse do something as if he were a wayward child you can ground at will. Like this awful phrase “nip this in the bud” which is regularly wheeled out on threads where a man is being shady. It’s not possible for one adult to stop another adult from being unfaithful.

Its a world where the wife is mum and the husband is like a naughty child constantly chasing after women and avoiding the back of her hand like something from the Benny Hill Show. Marriage through guilt, duty and coercion. It doesn’t work.

If you are with someone who is trying to get as far as he can in cheating you can’t and shouldn’t try to curb or stop his behaviour: its a waste of time and energy. You should be leaving him with your dignity intact.

Birminghambabe03 · Today 16:58

Fellohesh · Today 15:47

He has known her for a short while but not very well. She worked behind the bar of one of the pubs he goes to sometimes, but she was only there for a few months. She is the sister of his friends wife so that’s why she came along that day, as her sister invited her. It was the first time I met her.

She messaged him on instagram saying she wondered if he would mind her practicing on him as the only male hair cuts she has done have been with clippers and she would like the experience. But I don’t like it and have a weird feeling

It’s weird she 100% is in to him, I’m calling it now

MyLimeGuide · Today 17:01

randomchap · Today 16:02

So essentially you've just told your husband that you don't trust him

No! She has said she feels uncomfortable with it probably because of the jacket situation.

Notonthestairs · Today 17:01

He’s made his actions your problem to resolve.

Why is it your job to decide this?

Why can’t he work out the right thing to do for himself?

Jellox · Today 17:02

YABU

You sound paranoid and controlling.

You cannot try and police what he wears - then get upset for him not listening to you.

And you cannot police who he sees.

You’re also questioning him on whether he finds this woman attractive or not.

You say you trust him and that he’ll never cheat - so what’s the problem?

Honestly, OP it’s not very often I feel sorry for men on here but you seem incredibly difficult and I do feel for DP having to live with you - I say that in the kindest way I can as I’m not trying to have a go.

Inmyuggs · Today 17:02

Perfectly ok to offer to cut someones hair while in training to practise if he has a type of hair she likes..god help or or needs to practise on.
Perhaps realosing he is a human and we interact with one anither and strike up friendships including the opposite gender.
Never use the term he is allowed...he is his own person not allowing time, opnion...i appreicate attractive people be it male or female...gosh so insecure are some of you.

Iwannaeatapasty · Today 17:03

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 16:58

You don’t “let” or “not let” another grown adult do anything.

It enrages me when people talk about “letting” their spouse do something as if he were a wayward child you can ground at will. Like this awful phrase “nip this in the bud” which is regularly wheeled out on threads where a man is being shady. It’s not possible for one adult to stop another adult from being unfaithful.

Its a world where the wife is mum and the husband is like a naughty child constantly chasing after women and avoiding the back of her hand like something from the Benny Hill Show. Marriage through guilt, duty and coercion. It doesn’t work.

If you are with someone who is trying to get as far as he can in cheating you can’t and shouldn’t try to curb or stop his behaviour: its a waste of time and energy. You should be leaving him with your dignity intact.

This exactly.

When my ex husband left me for a work colleague I was called mad by a lot of people for “letting” him spend time with her on work trips and not putting my foot down.

What would that have achieved? “Oh gosh, my wife said no! I best not enter into an affair.”

I saw it coming a mile off (little things like OP, I would give him advice; he would laugh at me. She would say the same thing and he would act on it immediately.

so I prepared to leave him, and did. He had one foot out the door himself anyway.

Frugalgal · Today 17:03

Inmyuggs · Today 17:02

Perfectly ok to offer to cut someones hair while in training to practise if he has a type of hair she likes..god help or or needs to practise on.
Perhaps realosing he is a human and we interact with one anither and strike up friendships including the opposite gender.
Never use the term he is allowed...he is his own person not allowing time, opnion...i appreicate attractive people be it male or female...gosh so insecure are some of you.

Oh please! 🙄