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To not let DH go to this woman’s house?

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Fellohesh · Today 15:39

A couple of months ago, we went out with some friends who all met up at our house before leaving together to go to town. Before they arrived, DH put his jacket on but I didn’t think it matched the outfit and I also just didn’t think it was very nice in general. I told him so but he said he likes it so he’s wearing it.

When everyone arrived, one of the women said “what’s going on with your outfit?” to DH, and he asked why she didn’t like it. She said something about the jacket and DH disappeared upstairs and came down wearing a new one and said “is that better?”. I felt hurt at the time that he didn’t value my opinion but cared about what she thought of him. The next day I asked if he fancied her, to which he replied “she’s attractive” I said if we weren’t together would he ask her out and he said maybe (the convo was longer of course but I’m trying to keep this short and give the gist).

He came home from work yesterday saying this same woman is training to be a hairdresser and has offered to cut his hair for free while she practices. He has thick wavy hair and gets a scissor cut so it’s not just a simple trim with the clippers. However, she doesn’t have a salon or anything as she isn’t qualified so it would be at her house. AIBU to say no to this?

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MyLimeGuide · Today 17:58

Also you could say you want a trim too?

StealthMama · Today 17:59

Omhaf · Today 15:48

You don't get to give your DH permission for anything. He is an actual adult and can make his own decisions.

It also sounds from your summary that your conversation with him about her was ... potentially sub-optimal.

However, you can say "you going to this woman's house makes me feel X, and makes me think Y about how you see our relationship and that really worries me." The conversation you have about it will tell you everything you need to know about your relationship.

Or, depending on how that conversation goes and/or how things are generally, you could say "careful mate: this is dangerous territory and you may want to consider how this will impact on our marriage" (but only say that if it is actually a hard line for you and you would be willing to live up to that.)

This is my camp too…

’You’re telling me you want to go to the home of a woman you admitted you find attractive, and you want me to feel ok about it. I don’t, but these are your decisions and actions based on what you value most’

If he says ‘you’re over reacting it’s just a haircut’ I’d say, which you’ve managed elsewhere your entire life and you don’t owe this woman you find attractive any favours. Your wife has said she’s not comfortable with it but you still want to go- is that the situation here? Is that the kind of husband you aim to be?’

twatish behaviour on both their parts.

ThisJadeBear · Today 18:00

For anyone who watches Rivals I am getting James Vereker/Sarah Stratton vibes.

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:02

Mumlaplomb · Today 15:54

Op if he has asked you I think that’s a good thing and shows he understands boundaries. If you said no and he is ok with that I can’t see the problem.

Exactly. But bet we get page and page of froth and "it's never a bloke called kevin"

Gwenna · Today 18:02

Fellohesh · Today 15:39

A couple of months ago, we went out with some friends who all met up at our house before leaving together to go to town. Before they arrived, DH put his jacket on but I didn’t think it matched the outfit and I also just didn’t think it was very nice in general. I told him so but he said he likes it so he’s wearing it.

When everyone arrived, one of the women said “what’s going on with your outfit?” to DH, and he asked why she didn’t like it. She said something about the jacket and DH disappeared upstairs and came down wearing a new one and said “is that better?”. I felt hurt at the time that he didn’t value my opinion but cared about what she thought of him. The next day I asked if he fancied her, to which he replied “she’s attractive” I said if we weren’t together would he ask her out and he said maybe (the convo was longer of course but I’m trying to keep this short and give the gist).

He came home from work yesterday saying this same woman is training to be a hairdresser and has offered to cut his hair for free while she practices. He has thick wavy hair and gets a scissor cut so it’s not just a simple trim with the clippers. However, she doesn’t have a salon or anything as she isn’t qualified so it would be at her house. AIBU to say no to this?

With the jacket I’d have said possibly YABU because maybe he was just paying attention to two people saying the same thing, but the rest of it…nope! Sounds like a convenient excuse on her part. YANBU trust your instinct OP 💖

dollydog5 · Today 18:04

Thing is op, you can say no to this but if there’s intent on both sides and he isn’t a trustworthy husband then there will always be other opportunities. Trying to prevent a cheater from cheating is pointless. You can delay it but you can’t stop it indefinitely.

Gwenna · Today 18:04

MyMilchick · Today 15:44

Yeah weird that she'd make a comment like that to him, seems overly familiar

Great point!

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:05

Freeme31 · Today 16:07

Please don’t try to be one of the “cool” wife's, your looking at your marriage here and he’s just looking at his ego which she is clearly stroking

Once again I ask people to stop using "cool" as in insult when iy just means people don't have the same opinions as you

Gwenna · Today 18:06

Fellohesh · Today 15:47

He has known her for a short while but not very well. She worked behind the bar of one of the pubs he goes to sometimes, but she was only there for a few months. She is the sister of his friends wife so that’s why she came along that day, as her sister invited her. It was the first time I met her.

She messaged him on instagram saying she wondered if he would mind her practicing on him as the only male hair cuts she has done have been with clippers and she would like the experience. But I don’t like it and have a weird feeling

Trust your instinct - I don’t think you’re wrong. Not about her anyway.

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:09

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:05

Once again I ask people to stop using "cool" as in insult when iy just means people don't have the same opinions as you

I think the expression 'cool wife' refers to women who make out they are happy to have their husbands flirt away with other women because they are so confident in their "solid" relationship.

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:09

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · Today 16:32

Christ, I think I'd struggle to get through life! I'd probably answer "Yes" to "Do you think they're attractive" for a good 80% of people within 15 years of my age. And I'm bisexual so can't even stick to my own sex to be safe!

I'd be very lonely if I wasn't allowed to talk to or spend time with anyone attractive.

This. I am always reminded about the ire that mike pence got when he said he would never meet with a woman without his wife...turns out he was a mumsnetter

thebustonowhere · Today 18:10

No. Tell her to come to your house whilst you’re there. That’s what’s normal.

Notsosweetcaroline · Today 18:11

I never really understand this level of control and jealousy in a marriage and always assume these are the ones likely to end.

to be honest, if my husband said I don’t like your jacket I’d be like yeah alright who cares, if someone else said it in our group, I’d probably go oh ok and consider changing. I’d be utterly bemused if my husband then said do you fancy him and would you ask him out. It would be so insecure, jealous and needy I’d proper get the ick

I assume the issue here is you think she’s attractive, so you’re jealous in the base case.

stopping him getting a hair cut just shines a big spotlight on your jealousy. I’d have no issues, but if I did. I’d say yeah, sure, but ask her to come here and we can have lunch or something.

the bottom line is if you trust him then there is no reason for him to say no. Unless it’s simply you’re so jealous of her and her appearance, and he’s just made it worse by confirming he also thinks she’s attractive, you can’t stomach him being near her,

Notsosweetcaroline · Today 18:13

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:09

I think the expression 'cool wife' refers to women who make out they are happy to have their husbands flirt away with other women because they are so confident in their "solid" relationship.

What flirting?

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:14

Notsosweetcaroline · Today 18:11

I never really understand this level of control and jealousy in a marriage and always assume these are the ones likely to end.

to be honest, if my husband said I don’t like your jacket I’d be like yeah alright who cares, if someone else said it in our group, I’d probably go oh ok and consider changing. I’d be utterly bemused if my husband then said do you fancy him and would you ask him out. It would be so insecure, jealous and needy I’d proper get the ick

I assume the issue here is you think she’s attractive, so you’re jealous in the base case.

stopping him getting a hair cut just shines a big spotlight on your jealousy. I’d have no issues, but if I did. I’d say yeah, sure, but ask her to come here and we can have lunch or something.

the bottom line is if you trust him then there is no reason for him to say no. Unless it’s simply you’re so jealous of her and her appearance, and he’s just made it worse by confirming he also thinks she’s attractive, you can’t stomach him being near her,

But humans DO make mistakes and surely sometimes you may need to point out to a partner they are being inconsiderate?

vanessashanessa99 · Today 18:15

"Don't be wearing that hideous jacket when you go though, she hated it last time remember"

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:15

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Today 16:55

I personally wouldn’t let him go or I’d go with him. Can you record their interaction if he did go? Why can’t she come to your house (with you there)? You don’t want to be the woman posting here because you think your DH is having an affair. Is the woman single?

Jesus christ. At the stage you are bugging the situation just fucking break up

wayfairer · Today 18:17

MirrorMirror1247 · Today 15:44

"What a great idea! I'll come along too and me and her can have a good chat while she's doing your hair!"

See how he reacts to that.

This! Maybe get your hair done too!

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · Today 18:18

Fellohesh · Today 16:57

Yes I absolutely accept it back, I would want someone to tell me if something about my outfit looks off or doesn’t go. I would appreciate it.

Well fair enough!

I have to say, I find it bad manners to comment after someone has decided to wear something. (Bar obvious mistakes like it's a black tie dress code and they didn't realise.)

Any man telling me I looked stupid and to go get changed wouldn't know what had hit him... but I guess we are all different!

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:19

ThereIsThunderInOurHearts · Today 17:46

You can still say it to him along the lines of...

"I've been thinking about how Jenny directly contacted you instead of maybe going via your mate [her sister's husband]. It seems to me like she's angling for some private time with you in an intimate setting. All I ask is that you approach her advances like a decent and loyal husband would and realise what you will lose if you let her into our marriage. I can't and won't try to control what you do but I am in control of my response to it."

Do people really talk like this?

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:20

MyLimeGuide · Today 18:09

I think the expression 'cool wife' refers to women who make out they are happy to have their husbands flirt away with other women because they are so confident in their "solid" relationship.

So what if they are confident?

WallaceinAnderland · Today 18:22

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:19

Do people really talk like this?

No! 😂

IdaGlossop · Today 18:22

VividPinkTraybake · Today 18:19

Do people really talk like this?

Not in my world. In OP's place, I'd be using much more direct and vulgar language 😃

Mumtobabyhavoc · Today 18:22

An invested partner does not put themselves in potentially/compromising situations.
The DH is definitely acting suss and if he hasn't cheated is testing how far he can get.

OP should not have asked the questions she did (would you ask her out?, etc).

Be direct: I feel like your behaviour is showing interest in that woman and I'm not comfortable with it or you spending time with her. What do we need to talk about?

I would keep pushing to get the cards on the table. If the behaviour remains, increases, distance between us, whatever, I wouldn't just carry on hoping for the best, or nag for changes or discussions about it. I would just say, Not talking to me, flirtatious behaviour, rebuffing my concerns, spending time with her despite my concerns all point to cheating or considering it. If you don't want the marriage then it is time to separate.
And I would follow through.

nam3c4ang3 · Today 18:23

Fellohesh · Today 16:09

Look, I know my husband. I know how he acts around women, I have seen him interact with countless women before. This interaction was off. His fashion sense can be questionable. He gets the piss taken out of him all the time when he goes out with the guys from work but he doesn’t care because that’s just his style and he’s confident. This is the only time he has immediately gone to change. I asked him the questions because I wanted to know why her opinion mattered so much.

edited to say “questionable” is the wrong word. “Different” might be better

Edited

So if you know your husband - why on earth are you coming on here asking a bunch of random strangers if you are unreasonable? Presumably you think she fancies him and now you know he fancies her so you don’t want him to go - fine. Why is that unreasonable? If you know your husband - then you know the answer, we don’t hence some of the posts saying YABU.

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