Anyone else a bit sick of every single weight loss discussion immediately turning into “Have you tried Mounjaro?”

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Before anyone says it, no, I don’t qualify for it, and even if I did, I personally wouldn’t take it. I completely accept that these medications have been genuinely life changing and incredibly helpful for a lot of people, and I’m not denying that at all.

But sometimes it feels like the idea of losing weight the old fashioned way, changing habits, eating differently, exercising, being consistent, is almost treated as outdated now. As if nobody wants to even attempt it anymore without medication being suggested within five seconds.

Surely not every conversation about weight loss has to involve injections?

How can internet randoms guide or assist anyone based on individual capability?

If someone's serious about losing weight, they'll seek real life help, not help from people who've never met them and will have 100s of differing opinions anyway.

I get that, and part of me is intrigued to try a very low starting dose and see, but if it does cause sulphur burps and nausea or diarrhoea it's going to be a few days until that fades. Some say that Wegovy has less of such side effects than Mounjaro, but others say the opposite - and it's all anecdotal/subjective. With that and the cost, I just...havent explored further.

Sorry OP, we're derailing your thread! As you were...but yes it does come up a lot, you are right. I keep in my head "It's just a tool, use it if you want, or not if you don't want."

I have never heard of "food noise" until mumsnet.

I don't care if overweight people want to use and pay for the drugs, but it makes me angry when the NHS pays for them.

From a social POV, I think it is better to show your children and younger people that good health comes from being healthy.

Exactly. Just like no one should be saying to everyone they meet that they should try WLI.

Because they are as well as not instead of watching what you eat and adding some exercise to your lifestyle.

And if you don't qualify then just chill and stop judging those who choose medication to help their medical conditions.

WLIs don't make people lose weight. They help people control the triggers that lead to over eating, which causes them to be overweight. Losing weight on WLIs still requires a lot of self control and planning and denial. It's hard work.

To me it's no different to asking a smoker who is struggling if they tried a nicotine patch. There is no extra praise for smokers who give up without help, ultimately the goal is to give up and people use whatever tools they can. Same with weight loss

Conversely you could be in the 80 percent of people with no side effects.

no one will ask you to take them, and you need to be in the right head space, to want to do it, as you need to eat clean and healthy from the start or you will have side effects, but if you’re not wanting to even risk a sulphur burp or nausea the runs even for a few days you’re not there yet.

im just pointing out as you said you felt left behind as you’re too scared, that it’s a low dose everyone starts in, 80 percent of people have no side effects, and if you do t like it you don’t inject again.

so I’d maybe consider is it more you’re not in thr right headspace to lose weight, and using fear of side effects as an excuse for youself, because it’s ok to say I don’t want to do this yet.

Wow. Do you get angry when fat people get treatment for diabetes, heart attack, stroke and cancer? Do you get angry when skiers get treatment for broken bones, when smokers get treatment for cancer. Or is it just anger at fat people getting help to lose weight. Successfully.

and what makes you think they are not modelling healthy when on the meds?

Although I'm currently on MJ and it's been a game-changer for me, I agree with you. Some WLI converts get a bit overzealous. For those whom WLI work for, they can work brilliantly, but they aren't a solution for everyone and they shouldn't be painted as if they are.

Totally different! Neither of them involve injecting a chemical into your body which may have negative life long consequences.

Well this is a weird take. People on a glp1 do exactly what you describe to lose weight.

Well it does seems like stating the obvious. I’d take it but I’m a type 1 diabetic and it’s not approved for people with that condition.
But equally, there are always people who go on WLI threads and go ‘just eat less and exercise’. Gee never thought of that 🙄.

But what the OP is sick of, is people simply asking have you tried Mounjaro.

Which as a PP pointed out is no different to asking if they've tried low carbing or Slimming World etc.

I don’t think it is though painted like that, everyone knows it doesn’t work for a percentage of people. Thay doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be suggested for those struggling to lose weight, which is apparently what’s pissing the op off, as she appears to be under the impression fat people don’t know to try to dieting etc first.

This is the only answer you need, OP.

But they’re just making a suggestion, not forcibly injecting you! You can just say ‘thought about it, decided against it’

But sometimes it feels like the idea of losing weight the old fashioned way, changing habits, eating differently, exercising, being consistent, is almost treated as outdated now

There are people who struggle with the old fashioned way for decades and it just doesn't work. I don't blame anyone for trying a new solution - given that the vast majority are paying for it themselves.

I know but people always ask have you tried moving more and eating less? Same thing.

I'm with you OP. The old-fashioned way is far better for long-term health.

It's far easier (and much less rude) for people to say "Have you tried Mounjaro?" than it is for them to say "Have you tried eating less and exercising more?".😂

I dunno. I attempted it the old fashioned way for 35 years, which seems like a fair trial by anyone's standards. Only Mounjaro worked. Most people who do it aren't that young, and have been ground down by trying for a long time.

I'd never heard that specific phrase until Mumsnet, but I've experienced it all my life, childhood included. Many people do, and if that's how you are, I don't think you can be taught to be different.

You say you don’t qualify. I’m assuming that means you’ve a few pounds to lose, rather than obese.
WLI are life changing for those of us who have fought with their weight all their life. I feel in control at last. I’ve done the ‘eat less, walk more’, Weight Watchers, Keto, Slimming World, shakes. On WLI, I don’t think about food all.the.time. which keeps me in a calorie deficit. Not reached goal weight yet but I will hopefully manage to keep on top of it by a maintenance dose, don’t know what that looks like yet.
if you don’t want to use WLI, work away. Don’t criticize those who do.

Why are you having all these discussions if they irritate you so much? You don't need to talk to anyone about your weight loss goals, other than a healthcare professional.

So odd. The NHS only pay for weight loss injections for people with a high BMI AND four comorbidities. Or diabetes patients who'se blood sugar isnt controlled with metformin. You are angry they get help? You'd rather they stay obese and suffer? What a horrid opinion.
Just because you hadn't heard of something doesn't mean it didn't exist.
I really don't understand this way of thinking.

Don't be silly.

The two are very different questions.

Everyone will have tried eating less and moving more.

Not everyone will have tried MJ.