Anyone else a bit sick of every single weight loss discussion immediately turning into “Have you tried Mounjaro?”

[toonoisie]

Before anyone says it, no, I don’t qualify for it, and even if I did, I personally wouldn’t take it. I completely accept that these medications have been genuinely life changing and incredibly helpful for a lot of people, and I’m not denying that at all.

But sometimes it feels like the idea of losing weight the old fashioned way, changing habits, eating differently, exercising, being consistent, is almost treated as outdated now. As if nobody wants to even attempt it anymore without medication being suggested within five seconds.

Surely not every conversation about weight loss has to involve injections?

Can't say it bothers me if people raise it as a means of doing it. It is another tool in the box now so why wouldn't someone mention it?

It’s just a tool that they’re suggesting. You can just say ‘not for me’.
Maybe the ‘old fashioned’ way is outdated? It didn’t work for vast swathes of people after all.

I think some people think of it as cheating, like you somehow don't have to still do the work. But you absolutely do, you still have to eat less, it's just a tool to help you achieve it.

Food noise, as they call it, it a real thing and not everyone has it, so people who don't just can't understand why you can't just "eat less and move more".

I've tried MJ and it absolutely worked. But it also made me feel awful and I got to the point I started dreading taking it. So I'm trying other ways, which are much harder, but on balance is better overall for me.

But if it helps people, I would say let them crack on. The "old fashioned" way is very hard for a lot of people, not because the diets don't work, but because it's a much deeper issue for some people.

To be honest I used to think the same as you. But the thing is - 99% of us fatties aren’t stupid and OF COURSE we know that changing habits, exercising, healthy food are how you lose weight. But for various physical and psychological reasons there are a million hurdles to ACTUALLY DOING IT.

You know that WLI don’t just magically make weight disappear don’t you?

For me, WLI finally allow me to do all the things you say.

Yes it’s really annoying

Well the question won't be going anywhere, so you may as well get used to it.

No-ones saying that person shouldn't try losing weight the old fashioned way, changing habits, eating differently, exercising, being consistent etc.

They're just asking if they've tried Mounjaro 🤷‍♂️

YANBU. I've thought this too.

I’m on mounjaro and I’ve done all the “old fashioned” things you list: changed habits, been consistent, exercised (though I did that before). Mounjaro does not just melt fat away! You still have to burn off more than you consume, it just makes doing so less
miserable. It’s an aid, and why wouldn’t people suggest an aid?

In my experience every single obese person has tried to lose weight on their own many many times, and failed, hence why it is suggested.

I don’t know anyone nor have I heard of anyone who got obese, thought fuck it, won’t bother trying it without, lets go on th4 drugs. Not one.

Yes, I'm sick of that and 'move more, eat less' with no direction. Just a sentence that doesn't guide or assist based on individual capability etc.

It makes a bit of a change from eat less, move more.

Surely it’s no different to people saying ‘have you tried low carb?’ Or ‘have you tried slimming world’?

I find it mind boggling op you actually think fat people don’t try the “old fashioned way” and need people to suggest changing diet moving more. Utterly mind boggling.

fhey are fat. Not stupid.

Every single weight loss thread I've seen has a variety of suggestions from CICO, eat less/more more, low carb, increase steps, left weights...
WLI do often get suggested, because for some people they're a valid option and some posters have found them helpful.

I used to think that, but after losing 20lbs on my own and still being 2 stones overweight I gave WeGovy a try and it’s been life changing.

These jabs are another tool in the toolbox, they don’t make you magically lose weight. You still have to be in a calorie deficit each day, but it’s much easier to do when you’re not thinking about food all day, and helps you build better habits to maintain when you come off them.

I find it's best to just not discuss your weight with others or you're effectively inviting people to give you advice!

Some people have food noise but arent obese and wouldn’t qualify. They want tips to reduce the food noise and lose weight without the medication.

So if someone had been struggling with infertility for years, would you think it inappropriate to suggest they try IVF? Or would you just suggest they have more sex?

Should someone just put up with the brain fog and night sweats and hot flushes by taking magnesium or would it be inappropriate for people to suggest they take HRT.

Someone with high cholesterol shouldn't take statins as well as modifying their diet....someone with erectile dysfunction shouldn't try Viagra they should just try their best to 'get it up'

WLI are medicated support for weight loss for people who have been trying to lose weight "the old fashioned way"

I don’t have any skin in this game as I’ve never struggled with my weight but I think WLI are a wonderful invention and I’m glad they are improving so many people’s lives.

I don’t see how it’s any different to suggesting anti depressants if someone is struggling with their mood. In the same way, they are a tool to make it easier to ‘get better’

Funny, I'm obese and I feel GUILTY that I'm too afraid to try WLIs! I'm embarrassed that with already slow gastric emptying, gut dysmotility and emetophobia, I am not strong enough to ride out the (potential) side effects - the pay off of weight loss can't justify an endlessly miserable feedback loop which would distract me from work and affect my mental health.

But here I am, still fat whilst it feels like the rest of the world's fat people are joyously casting off fat suits as I get left behind.

Probably because it's clear on a population level that the advice of 'just eat less and move more' isn't working and hasn't been working for a long time. Most people who are struggling to lose weight know that they have to eat less and move more, that's not new information. Many have spent their entire lives trying to do that via a variety of methods and not succeeding, for a variety of reasons that can be very complex.

Science has essentially cured obesity for many people, so it seems strange not to suggest the cure for a medical condition someone has at this point. And a lot of people still aren't aware that you can get WLIs privately and it can be done easily.

Agree @hugasaurus

But it’s not a big commitment, it’s one pen, you start at a low dose, you try it, it doesn’t work, you stop. It really isn’t you start and are forced to stay on.

I have depression, and I take antidepressants. Should I just try and cheer up? Or is a medication which addresses and assists one medical condition acceptable, and another not so?

Yes you have understood perfectly what I am saying.