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To think there are people who play the system to get detained under the mental health act

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 17:03

Seen a lot of it on tik tom people
lyinf in hospital beds after purposefully getting themselves detained by the police smiling and laughing

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:41

PercyPigsAreOverRated · 21/05/2026 21:38

Can you really not see why one of these people can be sent home and one can't?

And yes it's shit. Yes there should be more help available for more people. But until there is they have to prioritise.

Doesn’t mean the person ain’t at risk? Sometimes professionals should read between the lines and say the person isn’t safe enough to go home.

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XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 21:41

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:40

Because when I’m in crsis and ask for extra support I’m often dented it or I even read on my items because I dared to ask for extra support that I was escalating to get extra support. Yet they don’t see it in these other people. Only thing I can think of is because I’m more upfront and say what I think rather than be sneaky and act like I don’t want or need help

What happens to other people has no bearing on you at all.
Totally different things.

Serencwtch · 21/05/2026 21:42

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:21

Realistically who do you think is more likely to be detained the person who tries to Maintian their safety and says they will be safe if sent home or the person who says they will do something if discharged

They wouldn't detain someone who is able to take responsibility for their own safety & will be safe at home. They have to consider the least restrictive option first & a section as a last resort.
Why on earth would they need to be detained if they are safe at home.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:42

WheretheFishesareFrightening · 21/05/2026 21:31

I think if you’re in a place in life where you actively seek out being sectioned for your mental health, then you’re deeply mentally unwell and probably do need the help anyway.

Yes they need a focus in life most of them are people sat at home all day refusing to do anything with their lives and again because I choose to mental health professionals use it against me

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:43

Serencwtch · 21/05/2026 21:42

They wouldn't detain someone who is able to take responsibility for their own safety & will be safe at home. They have to consider the least restrictive option first & a section as a last resort.
Why on earth would they need to be detained if they are safe at home.

Just because someone says they are safe doesn’t mean they are? Likewise someone that says they aren’t always more usnagw

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H0m3Stay737 · 21/05/2026 21:43

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:40

Because when I’m in crsis and ask for extra support I’m often dented it or I even read on my items because I dared to ask for extra support that I was escalating to get extra support. Yet they don’t see it in these other people. Only thing I can think of is because I’m more upfront and say what I think rather than be sneaky and act like I don’t want or need help

The way you’re so focused on others and jealous really makes it obvious that you don’t need to be there and have a bit of a problem.

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 21:43

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:42

Yes they need a focus in life most of them are people sat at home all day refusing to do anything with their lives and again because I choose to mental health professionals use it against me

No one gets sectioned because they are bored at home.
Again, stop comparing yourself with other people. It is not helping you.

PercyPigsAreOverRated · 21/05/2026 21:48

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:41

Doesn’t mean the person ain’t at risk? Sometimes professionals should read between the lines and say the person isn’t safe enough to go home.

Trust me, they know how to read between the lines. We often had patients tell us they were fine, the lied about their symptoms etc etc. We could always tell that they were wrong.

I asked my own therapist once if I was going insane. He said no because if I was wouldn't have the insight to ask him that.

steff13 · 21/05/2026 21:49

Are you the same poster who was upset about being denied Electroconvulsive Therapy a couple of days ago?

PurpleLovecats · 21/05/2026 21:50

In my experience it is much more common for people NOT to be sectioned who need to be, then sectioned unnecessarily, I say this as somebody who has been sectioned multiple times.

Tunnocksmallow · 21/05/2026 21:56

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Tunnocksmallow · 21/05/2026 21:56

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:39

I’m not trying to attack anyone with eupd.
in fact I’ve been attacked when posting about my struggles and acussed of having eupd told I don’t need certain things based off the views I had eupd…

From experience, once the words Borderline Personality Disorder or EUPD are attached to your medical records, the NHS kind of gives up on you, especially if you are a woman. Even if you had other diagnoses on your record too; it all gets shoved to the side.

The system is fucked! And the amount of stigma still attached to MH struggles makes it worse.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:58

H0m3Stay737 · 21/05/2026 21:43

The way you’re so focused on others and jealous really makes it obvious that you don’t need to be there and have a bit of a problem.

So you make an assumption about me that I don’t need to be there but when I do the same about others I’m jealous right…you don’t know anything about my risk level. As I’ve also started I’ve had people with eupd comments on my need to be in hospital tell me I’m attention seeking so tbh yes maybe my views are clouded by that.

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XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 22:07

Tunnocksmallow · 21/05/2026 21:56

From experience, once the words Borderline Personality Disorder or EUPD are attached to your medical records, the NHS kind of gives up on you, especially if you are a woman. Even if you had other diagnoses on your record too; it all gets shoved to the side.

The system is fucked! And the amount of stigma still attached to MH struggles makes it worse.

This has been my experience too.

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 22:08

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:58

So you make an assumption about me that I don’t need to be there but when I do the same about others I’m jealous right…you don’t know anything about my risk level. As I’ve also started I’ve had people with eupd comments on my need to be in hospital tell me I’m attention seeking so tbh yes maybe my views are clouded by that.

Concentrate on yourself.

Shrinkhole · 21/05/2026 22:34

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:55

Because I need help and don’t get it yet seem them getting it. It’s hard when we have the same diagnosis and I’m called things and told “I’m an eupd” etc by staff

You are constantly starting threads like this. Put the energy into your own recovery. It does not have any impact on you what someone else gets unless you let it by dwelling on it like you seem to. Access a DBT course. Or if you have done then go over it and put the skills into practice.

PurpleLovecats · 21/05/2026 22:36

Tunnocksmallow · 21/05/2026 21:56

From experience, once the words Borderline Personality Disorder or EUPD are attached to your medical records, the NHS kind of gives up on you, especially if you are a woman. Even if you had other diagnoses on your record too; it all gets shoved to the side.

The system is fucked! And the amount of stigma still attached to MH struggles makes it worse.

This is absolutely true.

I was discharged so “I didn’t get dependent on them”. I hear voices. Have hallucinations. When I’m really unwell I think everyone is out to harm me. I hide knives round the house. I write pages of ramblings in notebooks. I have made shrines, made a dummy I stabbed. I think my family are evil. I see bugs on my skin. I see birds flying round the room, orbs. Angels that tell me to hurt myself and others.

But last year they changed my diagnosis to PD and since then I’ve had no support. In desperation I took antipsychotics I had leftover and I’ve been well for a few months. I’ve run out now though. I’m already starting to hear the voices again. I know I can’t live through that again and have nowhere to turn.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 22:50

Shrinkhole · 21/05/2026 22:34

You are constantly starting threads like this. Put the energy into your own recovery. It does not have any impact on you what someone else gets unless you let it by dwelling on it like you seem to. Access a DBT course. Or if you have done then go over it and put the skills into practice.

I’m not I ask about my own risk and often get told people like me shouldn’t be in hospital but when it’s others it seems to change odd that.

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 22:51

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 22:08

Concentrate on yourself.

I am but why is an assumption allowed to be made about me? Yet I’m being told I’m jealous because of I notice the behaviour of others

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XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 22:53

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 22:51

I am but why is an assumption allowed to be made about me? Yet I’m being told I’m jealous because of I notice the behaviour of others

Ignore the behaviours of others. It is not doing you any good at all.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 22:53

Also not just me that thinks it these are posts of people with similar views.

To think there are people who play the system to get detained under the mental health act
To think there are people who play the system to get detained under the mental health act
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Shrinkhole · 21/05/2026 22:54

Direct yourself to learning to manage your own risk. Long term no one can do that but you. You will not prove any kind of point about yourself or your treatment by finding someone else who you feel is being treated differently. So what if they are? What’s the relevance to you?

PurpleLovecats · 21/05/2026 22:56

Do you want to be sectioned? And if so, why? You don’t actually get any real support in my experience, just medication then sent on your way.
Inpatient stays are pointless until the government realises and injects a substantial amount of money to enable therapies whilst detained.
Are you still under the CMHT?

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 22:58

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 22:53

Also not just me that thinks it these are posts of people with similar views.

Why are you looking at stuff like this?

One time, I was under the crisis team. I have a lot of friends with MH issues too, and you know what.. most of my appointments with the crisis team was moaning about the help and support my friends were getting and that I was not getting the same.
They actually pointed out that I was just constantly comparing myself to other people.

We are all different. The people you are comparing yourself to... they are different too. You just see what they put on Tik Tok or whatever. You do not see what is in their notes, or what they talk about with staff.

What helped me, was concentrating on myself.. the things that helped me. Be selfish. If you are an inpatient, this is the time you can be selfish and get away with it. Comparing yourself with other people is not going to help you. Let them go. Work on yourself.. otherwise you are going to be stuck in an awful trap that is really hard to get out of.

Shrinkhole · 21/05/2026 23:01

Also if someone is repeatedly being detained under S136 as a habitual behaviour then there are ways of managing that eg a flag on the police systems, a multiagency management plan or a public protection order that can eg ban someone from going to bridges. People can and have been prosecuted for wasting emergency services time. In short if a person is trying to ‘game the system’ it will be noticed and dealt with because staff were not born yesterday and are not so easily fooled. Leave them to do their jobs and get off Tik Tok.

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