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To think there are people who play the system to get detained under the mental health act

275 replies

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 17:03

Seen a lot of it on tik tom people
lyinf in hospital beds after purposefully getting themselves detained by the police smiling and laughing

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H0m3Stay737 · 21/05/2026 20:43

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:41

WHY DO YOU CARE?
Work on your own recovery. Ignore everyone else and their damn Tik Toks.

This! Op sounds unpleasant and weirdly obsessed with attacking suffering people.

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:44

H0m3Stay737 · 21/05/2026 20:43

This! Op sounds unpleasant and weirdly obsessed with attacking suffering people.

Yes.. And there have been other threads about people with EUPD not really being "ill" and similar. I wonder if OP started them too.

Gorja · 21/05/2026 20:44

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:37

Well most guidelines are that
people with eupd shouldn’t really be in hospital. especially people who will enagae in the same if not worse behaviours.

Those guidelines are very old and outdated and no longer used. Clinicians assess and treat a person, not a diagnosis. They make a decision based on that person, at that moment in time if a - they are suffering from a mental illness and b - if they are an immediate risk to themselves or others and c - whether treatment is available ( for a section 3). If the person meets the criteria they are detained regardless of diagnosis, if they don’t meet the criteria they are not detained, regardless of diagnosis.
look at the person not the label.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/05/2026 20:46

My friend was offered a specialist inpatient rehab placement for EUPD….she didn’t take it but it existed. She had been very unwell for a very long time…

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:47

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/05/2026 20:46

My friend was offered a specialist inpatient rehab placement for EUPD….she didn’t take it but it existed. She had been very unwell for a very long time…

Was that in York? The Retreat?

RestlessSnail · 21/05/2026 20:48

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:39

I’m not trying to attack anyone with eupd.
in fact I’ve been attacked when posting about my struggles and acussed of having eupd told I don’t need certain things based off the views I had eupd…

Regardless of what you're trying to do OP, the way you talk about people with EUPD comes across as objectifying and driven largely by stigma.

You show no understanding of the enormous amounts of distress people with EUPD experience or their very high risk of completed suicide.

In any case, many professionals dispute the utility of this diagnosis. My personal view is that most, if not all, people with this diagnosis actually have CPTSD, undiagnosed neurdivergence, or another undiagnosed condition e.g bipolar 2.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/05/2026 20:50

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:47

Was that in York? The Retreat?

No I think it was in the Midlands. I can’t ask her as she has since passed away.

TotalBaloney · 21/05/2026 20:50

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:39

I’m not trying to attack anyone with eupd.
in fact I’ve been attacked when posting about my struggles and acussed of having eupd told I don’t need certain things based off the views I had eupd…

The fact that you use the words ‘accused of having EUPD’ shows that you see EUPD as a shameful thing, rather than an illness.

emmetgirl · 21/05/2026 20:50

Tell me you know nothing about the Mental Health Act without telling me you know nothing about the Mental health Act.

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:51

RestlessSnail · 21/05/2026 20:48

Regardless of what you're trying to do OP, the way you talk about people with EUPD comes across as objectifying and driven largely by stigma.

You show no understanding of the enormous amounts of distress people with EUPD experience or their very high risk of completed suicide.

In any case, many professionals dispute the utility of this diagnosis. My personal view is that most, if not all, people with this diagnosis actually have CPTSD, undiagnosed neurdivergence, or another undiagnosed condition e.g bipolar 2.

Thank you. There is a huge stigma around EUPD. I have this as a diagnosis, and it is up on my patient record as a big flag... considered the same as an allergy. It says "PATIENT ALERT - PERSONALITY DISORDER".... it does not even say what PD it is.
I broke my foot and went to A&E.. the triage nurse saw my record and instantly accused me of faking it all. I had an X-ray, and hobbled out with a boot and crutches.

H0m3Stay737 · 21/05/2026 20:51

RestlessSnail · 21/05/2026 20:48

Regardless of what you're trying to do OP, the way you talk about people with EUPD comes across as objectifying and driven largely by stigma.

You show no understanding of the enormous amounts of distress people with EUPD experience or their very high risk of completed suicide.

In any case, many professionals dispute the utility of this diagnosis. My personal view is that most, if not all, people with this diagnosis actually have CPTSD, undiagnosed neurdivergence, or another undiagnosed condition e.g bipolar 2.

This! My autistic son has untreated CPTSD and frankly it’s disgusting. Disgusting he was given a false diagnosis and disgusting that there are sad people out there who like to attack such a vulnerable group

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:55

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:41

WHY DO YOU CARE?
Work on your own recovery. Ignore everyone else and their damn Tik Toks.

Because I need help and don’t get it yet seem them getting it. It’s hard when we have the same diagnosis and I’m called things and told “I’m an eupd” etc by staff

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:55

emmetgirl · 21/05/2026 20:50

Tell me you know nothing about the Mental Health Act without telling me you know nothing about the Mental health Act.

Been detained under it multiple times

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:56

emmetgirl · 21/05/2026 20:50

Tell me you know nothing about the Mental Health Act without telling me you know nothing about the Mental health Act.

You don’t know understand how they apply the mental health act in my area either.
once they decide they no longer want x person in hospital they never meet the certia no matter what the risk. Which is why I believe it’s set up

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XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:56

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:55

Because I need help and don’t get it yet seem them getting it. It’s hard when we have the same diagnosis and I’m called things and told “I’m an eupd” etc by staff

Concentrate on yourself. Comparing yourself does not help you at all.
And sorry to say it, but comparing yourself and getting mad is an EUPD thing.

RestlessSnail · 21/05/2026 20:56

@XenoBitch Jeez! That's terrible. Terrible that they would treat you differently based on a PD diagnosis and terrible that they don't even specify which PD! Almost as if they know the concept lacks reliability and validity. I hope they had a big slice of humble pie (wishful thinking maybe) and your foot healed okay.

TotalBaloney · 21/05/2026 20:57

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:55

Been detained under it multiple times

I wonder if other people think you’ve been playing the system?

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:58

Gorja · 21/05/2026 20:44

Those guidelines are very old and outdated and no longer used. Clinicians assess and treat a person, not a diagnosis. They make a decision based on that person, at that moment in time if a - they are suffering from a mental illness and b - if they are an immediate risk to themselves or others and c - whether treatment is available ( for a section 3). If the person meets the criteria they are detained regardless of diagnosis, if they don’t meet the criteria they are not detained, regardless of diagnosis.
look at the person not the label.

Yes and the criteria can be subjective.

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 21/05/2026 20:58

Is this thread really helpful to your current situation OP?! If yes, I can’t see how, you need to work on your self care and arguing with random strangers online isn’t good for your current mental state. I wish you well.

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:59

RestlessSnail · 21/05/2026 20:56

@XenoBitch Jeez! That's terrible. Terrible that they would treat you differently based on a PD diagnosis and terrible that they don't even specify which PD! Almost as if they know the concept lacks reliability and validity. I hope they had a big slice of humble pie (wishful thinking maybe) and your foot healed okay.

Yes, I was so mad. I just twisted my ankle on the bottom of the stairs... broke a bone in my foot.
I didn't see the triage nurse again. I doubt she was even told she was wrong.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:59

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:44

Yes.. And there have been other threads about people with EUPD not really being "ill" and similar. I wonder if OP started them too.

How is it attacking people stating a behaviour they do of posting videos?

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XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:59

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 20:59

How is it attacking people stating a behaviour they do of posting videos?

Because you are not a psychiatrist.

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:00

TotalBaloney · 21/05/2026 20:57

I wonder if other people think you’ve been playing the system?

Yep that’s been implied by others with eupd.
in fact I was even labelled as behavioural by one of them…despite the fact she had videos of her dancing on tik tok while an inpatient hypricitecal much

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luckylavender · 21/05/2026 21:01

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 17:03

Seen a lot of it on tik tom people
lyinf in hospital beds after purposefully getting themselves detained by the police smiling and laughing

What an ignorant post

Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 21:01

XenoBitch · 21/05/2026 20:59

Because you are not a psychiatrist.

Maybe if they know about it they wouldn’t be so quick to detain either? What they get in the assessment is probably a crying I can’t keep my safe the reality is a smiling person making jokes on rik tok

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