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To think there are people who play the system to get detained under the mental health act

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Whyohwhy80 · 21/05/2026 17:03

Seen a lot of it on tik tom people
lyinf in hospital beds after purposefully getting themselves detained by the police smiling and laughing

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Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 20:47

Dh was sectioned four years ago. It was a hugely dramatic experience for us all. Under section the unit is secure. Initially the patient is not allowed out at all and it is enormously stressful being away from family support. I have never come in contact with anyone who did this for fun and in frankness your suggestion that some people do shows a good deal of ignorance.

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 20:48

Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 20:47

Dh was sectioned four years ago. It was a hugely dramatic experience for us all. Under section the unit is secure. Initially the patient is not allowed out at all and it is enormously stressful being away from family support. I have never come in contact with anyone who did this for fun and in frankness your suggestion that some people do shows a good deal of ignorance.

Not really you don’t know who I know. I don’t think smiling and making jokes such as don’t worry be happy in the psych ward are is

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Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 20:49

Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 20:47

Dh was sectioned four years ago. It was a hugely dramatic experience for us all. Under section the unit is secure. Initially the patient is not allowed out at all and it is enormously stressful being away from family support. I have never come in contact with anyone who did this for fun and in frankness your suggestion that some people do shows a good deal of ignorance.

These people I’m talking about are out within days

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PercyPigsAreOverRated · 22/05/2026 20:51

Serencwtch · 22/05/2026 18:47

Not necessarily. The most common sections are s136 which is police power to remove someone they believe to be suffering from a mental disorder from a public place to a place of safety, section 2 which is for assessment (not treatment) & then section 5(4) and 5(2) which are holding powers by a nurse of doctor to allow for a MHA assessment. None of these are to force treatment.

Section 3 is for treatment.

Whilst this is all true, it's not what 'sectioned' means in common parlance. The general public have no knowledge of the MH act beyond "you can be sectioned and kept in hospital "

Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 21:00

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 20:48

Not really you don’t know who I know. I don’t think smiling and making jokes such as don’t worry be happy in the psych ward are is

I call troll. Your comments are massively offensive and I doubt you have ever had anyone close to you go through being sectioned. It is really hard and the bar is quite high. A number of highly skilled staff are involved.

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:02

Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 21:00

I call troll. Your comments are massively offensive and I doubt you have ever had anyone close to you go through being sectioned. It is really hard and the bar is quite high. A number of highly skilled staff are involved.

I’m not a troll. My comments are regarding behaviour I’ve seen. No where have I made comments to things I’ve not witnessed. If you choose not believe the posts I’ve seen that’s your choice

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Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:02

Cyclebabble · 22/05/2026 21:00

I call troll. Your comments are massively offensive and I doubt you have ever had anyone close to you go through being sectioned. It is really hard and the bar is quite high. A number of highly skilled staff are involved.

I’ve been sectioned multiple times as recent as less than a year ago so believe me I do know.

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Shrinkhole · 22/05/2026 21:18

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 14:44

Yes this is the point I’m making someone saying they will be sectioned and laughing about it isn’t someone who needs to be detained. Also had someone in my area be offered an informal admission and then say they would be safer sectioned so they detained them this isn’t what it’s for..

Then someone made a mistake/ misjudgement OR you are not aware of the full circumstances either way it’s got no bearing on your own care and treatment

XenoBitch · 22/05/2026 21:19

Shrinkhole · 22/05/2026 21:18

Then someone made a mistake/ misjudgement OR you are not aware of the full circumstances either way it’s got no bearing on your own care and treatment

This. I am not sure why OP continues to be so obsessed with other patients and defending her position in doing so.

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:22

XenoBitch · 22/05/2026 21:19

This. I am not sure why OP continues to be so obsessed with other patients and defending her position in doing so.

Yet you said you’ve done the same thing? It matters to me because I’ve been acussed of things by professionals yet these people don’t

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EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 22/05/2026 21:25

In the kindest possible way OP this thread isn’t doing you any good. Maybe step back? You are also offending people with direct experience of the system whether you mean to do this or not. Your approach is unhealthy. Maybe recalibrate?

XenoBitch · 22/05/2026 21:25

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:22

Yet you said you’ve done the same thing? It matters to me because I’ve been acussed of things by professionals yet these people don’t

Yes, I can see how wrong I was, and how it was not conductive to my own recovery. It just made me angry. I have a very strong sense of justice, and I felt wronged by it all. I am glad that the staff that picked it up called me out on it.
Concentrate on yourself. I think dwelling on other patients is doing you no good at all.
You are not privy to their notes or history.

PurpleLovecats · 22/05/2026 21:38

I don’t really understand why you are so interested in other people? Concentrate on yourself.
I have been sectioned and had voluntary admissions. Now I realise mental health teams and medical teams are a danger. I now listen to the voices I hear (that the last psych I had said I made up) and things are better for me as I know none of them can interfere anymore.
People should do everything they can to avoid Mh teams and being detained. They’re dangerous.

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:51

XenoBitch · 22/05/2026 21:25

Yes, I can see how wrong I was, and how it was not conductive to my own recovery. It just made me angry. I have a very strong sense of justice, and I felt wronged by it all. I am glad that the staff that picked it up called me out on it.
Concentrate on yourself. I think dwelling on other patients is doing you no good at all.
You are not privy to their notes or history.

Yes an I also feel injustice strongly as I have autism to. It’s hard to when I’ve been fro example falsely accused of being in a group chat trying to gain an admission yet they can’t see though people who actually do things like that. I felt the need to show my whole phone when I was in crisis which I shouldn’t have had to. Also I even if I did have a group chat I wouldn’t have been init by myself…

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XenoBitch · 22/05/2026 22:03

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:51

Yes an I also feel injustice strongly as I have autism to. It’s hard to when I’ve been fro example falsely accused of being in a group chat trying to gain an admission yet they can’t see though people who actually do things like that. I felt the need to show my whole phone when I was in crisis which I shouldn’t have had to. Also I even if I did have a group chat I wouldn’t have been init by myself…

I can understand that. There used to be an AMHP social worker that I always seemed to get assessed by, and she was a cow. She used to make up stuff about me... like said I made a hospital stay last longer than it should have been (that is not up to me, and my community psychiatrist and therapist agreed that hospital was appropriate). Another time, she said I was offered time in a new acute community unit, and I turned it down. At the time she assessed me, it was months from even being open and I had no idea it existed.

Sometimes, you just have to go along with things in hospital to keep the peace. I know it is hard when you feel hard done by. You just want to explain yourself but no one listens.
Are there any staff there that you like and trust? It can help to calmly talk things through with them.

x2boys · 22/05/2026 22:47

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 20:40

She had been begging for admission she wanted it there were no doubts. The Cmht said no as they know it doesn’t work the psych liaison team also said no as same as the Cmht they know. She then got herself detained on a section 5’2 in a general in order to get a mental health act assessment which lead to the admission. Hence me thinking mutiple people do it on purpose

But a section 5/2 is just a doctors ( usually a junior Doctors) holding power it can last up tp 72 hours to get onto to an assesment ( section 2) or treatment( section 3) she would need to be seen by two doctors and an Amph .

Toetouchingtitties · Yesterday 00:55

For the people saying Section 2 is just for assessment, it isn't. You can also be treated under a Section 2.

And.. to the previous poster who said EUPD, CPTSD, Schizo etc were all the same thing on a spectrum, that is also incorrect. While many of the symptoms overlap, many don't. The treatment modalities, medications etc. can also be very different, depending on how you are presenting. Trauma underpins a lot of these diagnoses, but not all.

Serencwtch · Yesterday 07:56

Whyohwhy80 · 22/05/2026 21:22

Yet you said you’ve done the same thing? It matters to me because I’ve been acussed of things by professionals yet these people don’t

KC (Tiger onesie) has faced police action for what she's been doing. There has been consequences & court. She is on a criminal behaviour order (CBO).

She also does have significant vulnerability & pretty horrific past experiences

She shouldn't be posting all this on tiktok - I think part of it is a form of self harm - posting knowing that she will receive hate & abuse & bullying.

Just don't get involved

Serencwtch · Yesterday 07:59

Toetouchingtitties · Yesterday 00:55

For the people saying Section 2 is just for assessment, it isn't. You can also be treated under a Section 2.

And.. to the previous poster who said EUPD, CPTSD, Schizo etc were all the same thing on a spectrum, that is also incorrect. While many of the symptoms overlap, many don't. The treatment modalities, medications etc. can also be very different, depending on how you are presenting. Trauma underpins a lot of these diagnoses, but not all.

You cannot be treated against your consent on a section 2.
They can give you treatment eg medication if you consent to it, but if you refuse then they could only give emergency medication until they assess and detain for a section 3.

Shrinkhole · Yesterday 08:54

Wrong. You can be medicated against your will on S2. Happens all the time.

Whyohwhy80 · Yesterday 15:04

Serencwtch · Yesterday 07:56

KC (Tiger onesie) has faced police action for what she's been doing. There has been consequences & court. She is on a criminal behaviour order (CBO).

She also does have significant vulnerability & pretty horrific past experiences

She shouldn't be posting all this on tiktok - I think part of it is a form of self harm - posting knowing that she will receive hate & abuse & bullying.

Just don't get involved

I wasn’t actually thinking of her I was talking about people in my own area that I know personally.

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Whyohwhy80 · Yesterday 15:05

Serencwtch · Yesterday 07:59

You cannot be treated against your consent on a section 2.
They can give you treatment eg medication if you consent to it, but if you refuse then they could only give emergency medication until they assess and detain for a section 3.

I’ve been injected on a section 2

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Serencwtch · Yesterday 16:09

Whyohwhy80 · Yesterday 15:04

I wasn’t actually thinking of her I was talking about people in my own area that I know personally.

In your OP you said it was people on tik tok & now it's people you know personally.

I think this is probably more about your behaviour & someone has pulled you up on it.

Repeatedly being sectioned doesn't validate you or your distress. Being sectioned is not a status to show how sick you are. No one can help unless you can keep yourself safe & engage with things like DBT.

Whyohwhy80 · Yesterday 16:20

Serencwtch · Yesterday 16:09

In your OP you said it was people on tik tok & now it's people you know personally.

I think this is probably more about your behaviour & someone has pulled you up on it.

Repeatedly being sectioned doesn't validate you or your distress. Being sectioned is not a status to show how sick you are. No one can help unless you can keep yourself safe & engage with things like DBT.

Yes I know them but they also have tik tok accounts isn’t impossible? No it’s not my behaviour because I’m discharged always and always say I’m safe to go so no definitely not me.

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Whyohwhy80 · Yesterday 16:20

Serencwtch · Yesterday 16:09

In your OP you said it was people on tik tok & now it's people you know personally.

I think this is probably more about your behaviour & someone has pulled you up on it.

Repeatedly being sectioned doesn't validate you or your distress. Being sectioned is not a status to show how sick you are. No one can help unless you can keep yourself safe & engage with things like DBT.

I’ve asked for dbt months ago haven’t heard anything not even if I’m on waiting lists so it’s jto
thay simple tbh

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