Is Andy Burnham reasonable to say only a small minority of women object to men being in their toilets? YABU he's right, YANBU he's wrong *titled tweaked by MNHQ at OP's request*

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15830845/Andy-Burnham-men-identify-women-use-female-toilets.html

'I don't think that's a majority view. I think it's a minority view and quite a small minority view, actually. But it is a view so you can't completely ignore it. Possibly they might be women who have experienced male violence at some point in their life. I don't know, that's one way of looking at it.'

If the PP wants data the stats on the number of trans identifying men in prison who are sex offenders will be instructive.

I'll dig it out, although tbh at this stage I'm tired of people not engaging their brains and considering why men are so intent on accessing the spaces and services women and girls need for privacy, dignity, and safety.

please come at me

this isn’t the thunderdome 😳

Will a large female single sex provision in the USA where multiple female people were harmed by a male who should have been excluded from the space work?

”In another disturbing incident, the lawsuit alleges Langford has even become physically aroused.
“Mr. Smith has, while watching members enter the sorority house, had an erection visible through his leggings,” the suit says. “Other times, he has had a pillow in his lap.”

https://nypost.com/2023/05/16/university-of-wyoming-sorority-sisters-say-they-live-in-fear-of-trans-member/

Apparently, according to a PP, no male people with transgender identity would “‘abuse’ a woman in a single sex space”.

OH WHAT A DAY

Ah he wasn’t a REAL tranny. ..

also, I am very sorry that happened. I feel
more and more reasons to apologise for men every day.

It's honestly the height of DARVO when women say they need single sex spaces and are accused of being the deviants ("obsessed with genitals" or whatever it was, it's usually that). Like objecting to being punched and being accused of having a fist fetish. Who do these people think they're fooling? This question isn't even rhetorical. I would honestly like to know.

It's over. It was always nonsensical and dishonest, and it's also harmful, sexist, exploitative and downright fucking stupid. Find another cause. One that doesn't shit on women and vulnerable children would be a good start.

I am trying again with the links removed and putting just the names in the post. Transcrimeuk dot com has the details.

These are male people with transgender identities, abusing women in single sex provisions. These are on top of those mentioned by others.

Ivan Blidar

This one was found with multiple instances of abuse of women in single sex provisions

Jo White

And another

Kurtis Mawson

And these involved incidents in women’s toilets

Steven Ballantyne

Charlene Mallon

Joel Hardman

This these ones assaulted women in the women’s toilets

Ian Bullock

Mark Lazarus

These were just what I found quickly for the Uk

Reduxx below has an extensive database across the globe

https://reduxx.info

Where are these polls? A quick google search doesn’t come up with anything to suggest otherwise.

not naive we just don’t live our lives in fear, the only violence I have ever seen in bathrooms is women on women.

I also know that I can’t speak on behalf of everyone which is something you don’t seem to realise about yourself.

Don't be daft. You aren't responsible for the bad ones. Most men manage to be decent.

Yougov poll regularly on this subject

https://yougov.com/en-gb/trackers/support-for-separate-toilets-for-men-and-women-and-gender-neutral-toilets-in-public-spaces

His a man and would not understand. Men like to think they can tell us what to think, but I don't know any woman that's happy for a penis attached to anyone other than a young child to be in a woman's toilet or changing room. That's not me being trans phobic, that's me prioritising female safety over there wants as it leaves it open to abuse by the perverts in this world.

As if by magic! 😂

His a man and would not understand. Men like to think they can tell us what to think, but I don't know any woman that's happy for a penis attached to anyone other than a young child to be in a woman's toilet or changing room. That's not me being trans phobic, that's me prioritising female safety over there wants as it leaves it open to abuse by the perverts in this world.

I speak for myself, not on behalf of other women.

But I understand I do not consent on behalf of other women. Something you should learn.

I habe a friend who was brutally raped. Having men in her intimate spaces would trigger her hugely. Are you going to tell her she has no rights to single sex spaces?

SEX MATTERS / JL PARTNERS SINGLE SEX SPACES POLL MARCH 2026
Sex Matters commissioned a poll of 1,500 UK adults with the results released in March 2026.
The overall results were:

For each of the following, do you prefer them to be single sex or mixed sex?
Changing rooms in gyms and leisure centres
Single sex 84% (Male 79%, Female 88%)
Mixed sex 10% (Male 13%, Female 6%)
Unsure 7% (Male 7%, Female 6%)

Changing rooms and showers at work
Single sex 86% (Male 83%, Female 89%)
Mixed sex 8% (Male 10%, Female 6%)
Unsure 6% (Male 7%, Female 6%)

Public toilets, for example in parks
Single sex 81% (Male 77%, Female 85%)
Mixed sex 13% (Male 17%, Female 9%)
Unsure 6% (Male 6%, Female 6%)

Workplace toilets
Single sex 78% (Male 74%, Female 82%)
Mixed sex 14% (Male 19%, Female 8%)
Unsure 8% (Male 7%, Female 8%)

Toilets in a pub or entertainment venue
Single sex 81% (Male 75%, Female 86%)
Mixed sex 13% (Male 17%, Female 8%)
Unsure 7% (Male 8%, Female 6%)

A transgender person is someone who says they are the other sex, that is, a person born male who identifies as a woman, or a person born female who identifies as a man. How do you think transgender people should be accommodated in toilets…

At work
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 21% (Male 18%, Female 24%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 33% (Male 27%, Female 38%

In gyms and leisure centres
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% (Male 15%, Female 23%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 34% (Male 29%, Female 38%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 36% (Male 46%, Female 26%)
Unsure 12% (Male 10%, Female 13%)

At university
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% (Male 16%, Female 23%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% (Male 27%, Female 38%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% (Male 49%, Female 26%)
Unsure 12% (Male 10%, Female 14%)

In a bar or entertainment venue
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% (Male 17%, Female 23%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% (Male 25%, Female 37%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% (Male 49%, Female 26%)
Unsure 12% (Male 10%, Female 14%)

In public toilets, for example in parks
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% (Male 15%, Female 23%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 32% (Male 27%, Female 37%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 37% (Male 48%, Female 27%)
Unsure 12% (Male 10%, Female 13%)

In hospital
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 20% (Male 15%, Female 24%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 30% (Male 25%, Female 35%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% (Male 47%, Female 25%)
Unsure 11% (Male 9%, Female 12%)

How do you think transgender people should be accommodated in changing rooms and showers…
At work
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 19% (Male 15%, Female 23%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 35% (Male 29%, Female 40%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% (Male 47%, Female 23%)
Unsure 11% (Male 9%, Female 12%)

In gyms and leisure centres
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 18% (Male 15%, Female 21%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 36% (Male 29%, Female 42%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 35% (Male 46%, Female 24%)
Unsure 11% (Male 10%, Female 13%)

At university
They should be allowed to use whichever facilities they prefer 18% (Male 14%, Female 21%)
They should not use facilities for the opposite sex but there should be an alternative 35% (Male 29%, Female 40%)
They should use the facilities of their sex at birth 36% (Male 47%, Female 26%)
Unsure 12% (Male 11%, Female 12%)

Here is the link to the data:
https://sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Omni-Sex-Matters-polling-March-2026.pdf

A link to the article:
https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/new-poll-shows-most-people-prefer-single-sex-toilets-and-changing-rooms/

SCOTTISH POLLING ON TRANS BATHROOM RULES - DEC 2026

https://x.com/JournalismSEEN/status/2007720165249622410?s=20
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25732632.scotland-poll-finds-huge-generation-split-trans-bathroom-rules/
http://archive.today/gadZW

Scotland poll finds huge generation split on trans bathroom rules
4 January 2026

"In a survey of 1000 Scots, a majority of 55% said trans people should only be allowed to use facilities which align with their biological sex. One-fifth (20%) said people should be able to use the facilities that align with their chosen gender, while 25% said they did not know.

With the don't knows removed, 73% opposed trans people using facilities of their choice, while 27% backed it. However, voters appear split on the issue along generational lines.

Subsamples from the poll show that in all the age groups above 55, support for trans people being allowed to use the facilities that align with their gender is around 7-8%.

For those aged 65-74 and 75 and above, around three-quarters (74% and 73% respectively) believe trans people should have to use facilities that align with their birth sex. This drops to 64% for those aged 55-64, and consistently drops further across every age group.

For the youngest age group polled, people aged 18-29, a plurality support trans people being able to use facilities of their choice (42% against 32% who say they should have to use facilities which align with their birth sex).
The poll also found women are more likely than men to think trans people should use facilities that match the gender they identify as, at 23% compared to 16%."

Meanwhile, those who voted for Reform UK or the Conservatives at the last General Election are more likely to believe trans people should use facilities in line with their biological sex – at 83% and 74% respectively – compared with the SNP (45%) and the Greens (18%). "

and

"Find Out Now surveyed 1000 adults in Scotland between December 11 and 19, 2025."

There are graphs in the links.

YOUGOV UK TRACKER COMPARISONS

The following is the data from UK trackers from 2018 - 2024 tracking public opinion as part of their series of 'Where does the British public stand on transgender rights'. 2018 results included where they are available.

Here are some of the results that relate to the needs for female people to have single sex provisions:

In the following questions a transgender woman is someone who was biologically male at birth, but now identifies as a woman. A transgender man is someone who was biologically female at birth, but now identifies as a man.

Do you think transgender women should or should not be allowed to…
Take part in women's sporting events?2018 in italics, 2022 in [brackets vs 2024

Should be allowed 27 [16] 12% 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 15%
Should not be allowed 48 [61] 74% 2018 - 2024 this is increase by 26%
Don't know 25 [22] 14%. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 11%
Use women's changing rooms? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 42 [34] 25%. 2018 - 2024* this is decrease by 17%
Should not be allowed 33 [43] 58%. 2018 - 2024 this is increase by 25%
Don't know 25 [23] 17%. 2018 - 2024 *this is decrease by 8%

Use women's toilets? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 46 [38] 33%. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 13%
Should not be allowed 30 [41] 51%. 2018 - 2024* *this is increase by 20%
Don't know 23 [21] 16%. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 7%

Use women's refuges? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 47 [39] 29%. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 18%
Should not be allowed 27 [36] 55%. 2018 - 2024 this is increase by 28%
Don't know 26 [25] 16%. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease by 10%

No surgery question was asked in 2018

And the specific non surgical question from 2020:

Do you think a transgender woman who has not had gender reassignment surgery should or should not be allowed to...
Use women's changing rooms? 2020 in italics, 2022 in [brackets] vs 2024
Should be allowed 26 [25] 19%. 2020 - 2024 this is decrease by 7%
Should not be allowed 46 [48] 63%. 2020 - 2024* *this is increase by 17%
Don't know 28 [27] 18%. 2020 - 2024 this is decrease by 10%

Use women's toilets?
Should be allowed 31 [29] 23%. 2020 - 2024* *this is decrease by 8%
Should not be allowed 41 [46] 60%. 2020 - 2024 this is increase by 19%
Don't know 27 [25] 18%. 2020 - 2024 this is decrease by 9%

And finally:

This question was also not asked in 2018
Do you believe that allowing transgender women to use spaces reserved for women, such as women's toilets or changing rooms, does or does not present a genuine risk of harm to women? 2020 in italics, 2022 in [brackets] vs 2024
Does not present a genuine risk of harm 39 [32] 25%. 2020 - 2024 this is decrease by 14%
Does present a genuine risk of harm 32 [39] 55%. 2020 - 2024 this is increase by 23%
Don't know 29 [29] 20%. 2020 - 2024 this is decrease by 9%

d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Transgender_data_2018.pdf

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Transgender_data_2020.pdf

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Internal_TransgenderIssues_220720_final_extraXbreak_FINAL.pdf

https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/documents/YouGov_-_Transgender_study_2024.pdf

There was also a Sex Matters poll done within days of the YouGov tracker. These are the results of it compared to in the past too. Just pulling them together, the Sex Matters (2533 adults polled) results were often more supportive than the YouGov results (2078 adults polled).

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/SexMatters_Gender_241219_ZMwbM2T.pdf

In the following questions a transgender woman is someone who was biologically male at birth, but now identifies as a woman. A transgender man is someone who was biologically female at birth, but now identifies as a man.

Do you think transgender women should or should not be allowed to…
Take part in women's sporting events?2018 in italics, 2022 in [brackets vs 2024 SM (YG 2024)
Should be allowed 27 [16] 11%SM 2018 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 16% (YG 12%)
Should not be allowed 48 [61] 74%SM 2018 - 2024 SM this is increase by 26% (YG 74%)
Don't know 25 [22] 15%SM. 2018 - 2024 this is SM decrease by 10% (YG 14%)

Use women's changing rooms? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 42 [34] 27%SM. 2018 - 2024SM this is decrease by 15% (YG 25%)*
Should not be allowed 33 [43] 56%SM. 2018 - 2024SM this is increase by 23% (YG 58%)
Don't know 25 [23] 17%SM. 2018 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 8% (YG 17%)*

Use women's toilets? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 46 [38] 33%SM. 2018 - 2024 SMthis is decrease by 13% (YG 29%)
Should not be allowed 30 [41] 51%SM. 2018 - 2024SM this is increase by 20% (YG 55%)
Don't know 23 [21] 16%SM. 2018 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 7% (YG 16%)

Use women's refuges? 2022 in brackets vs 2024
Should be allowed 47 [39] 31%SM. 2018 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 16% (YG 29%)
Should not be allowed 27 [36] 47%SM. 2018 - 2024 SM this is increase by 20% (YG 52%)
Don't know 26 [25] 22%SM. 2018 - 2024 this is decrease SM by 4% (YG 20%)

And the specific non surgical question from 2020:

Do you think a transgender woman who has not had gender reassignment surgery should or should not be allowed to...
Use women's changing rooms? 2020 in italics, 2022 in [brackets] vs 2024SM (YG 2024)
Should be allowed 26 [25] 20%SM. 2020 - 2024SM this is decrease by 6% (YG 19%)
Should not be allowed 46 [48] 62%SM. 2020 - 2024 SM this is increase by 16% (YG 63%)
Don't know 28 [27] 18%SM. 2020 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 10% (YG 18%)

Use women's toilets?
Should be allowed 31 [29] 26%SM. 2020 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 5% (YG 23%)
Should not be allowed 41 [46] 58%SM. 2020 - 2024 SM this is increase by 17% (YG 60%)
Don't know 27 [25] 16%SM. 2020 - 2024 SM this is decrease by 11% (YG 18%)

Yes you did. You said anyone with a different point of view than yours was “small minded”.

A reminder that safeguarding is only expected to minimise the chance of harm by predators. No safeguarding measure for publicly accessible provisions will ever provide 100% protection. That is not achievable.

Also, safeguarding principles are not only those that minimise the risk of physical harm, but they also are there for many other areas of protection. Including privacy and dignity within groups of people categorised by sex class.

It is also not just about physical risk to safety. There are many types of harms that female people need female single sex provisions to be safeguarded against:

Harms include:
-Rape and sexual assault.
-Violence.
-Sexual abuse that is not rape or sexual assault.
-Sexual abuse that also includes solo sexual acts or using the experience in future sexual acts.
-Any other abuse that may include verbal abuse, intimidation in any way etc, this includes inappropriate questions and comments.
-A male person's presence where female people need privacy and dignity.
-A male person's presence where female people need to feel safe from any male person's presence (over the age of about 8 years old).
-Female people self-excluding knowing that there may be a male person accessing that provision.
-Female people not having the freedom to discuss the issues that cause them distress, concern, or that they need to talk about because a male person is present.
-Female children (and female adults) learning to have no or too low personal boundaries because they have been taught that male people are female people and that they should ignore and overcome feelings of discomfort.

Narrowing the discussion to sex and violence offences does not remove these other harms from consideration for female single sex spaces and vice versa. They are all important.

I wouldn’t trust anything published in the National Helle. Absolute joke of a ‘paper’. The comments on their Facebook page covering the guidance publishing didn’t disappoint. For the bingo card - teams of trans men who we won’t be able to tell are actually female up close and personal coming to now scare us (where have they been up until now?!), genital policing at toilet doors, cis every other paragraph, an ‘I’ve got a gender neutral bathroom’ was chucked in for the win!

Plenty of sanity but it’s clear there still are ‘kind and inclusive’ (not to actual women though) ideology loons out there.

the only violence I have ever seen in bathrooms is women on women

Goodness, I wonder why there are only women in women only spaces. 🫠 Incidentally, was there a foam party or tampon dominoes going on with all the hair pulling? You know what it's like in there!

I also feel bound to tell you that it's not a moral imperative on women to discard their rights and safeguards to soothe men under the guise of "not living in fear". Some women do live in fear, have good reason and berating them for it and demanding they increase their risk for a man's self image isn't the moral flex you think it is. We also don't have to "live in fear" to assert our rights. I can be totally fearless and still have a right to change, shower and toilet away from men. In fact - and I'm about to blow your mind here - I can have a space away from men just because I want to. I don't need fear or threat as a reason, although if I do, God knows there's plenty of justification.

The moral compass on this ideology is drunk.

Thank you Helle!