To not offer to clean up my DD's wee

[milliec]

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Yes, me too, Aitch.

You mean we may have wasted all this righteous indignation?

Well see that means that I am right Desiderata, why sack someone without hearing the otherside - it may all be in the mind of a crazy woman!!!

Of course you're right, darling ...

All sackings have the right of appeal flashman, you must know that?

So striking someone is out - even if it may have been self defence? [jumps into flashmans shoes for a moment]

Get out! They stink!

Well of course if it was self defense - I would have both of them in and hear both sides rather than someone just say I was hit - ok I'll just fire the other one then.

And desiderara is prob right on that score - my trainers are grim.

Ewwww you're not wrong! I feel dirty.

I don't think you should have asked to use their loo,this is really irritating for small business owners.

However the shop assistant's reaction was completley unacceptable

in what earthly way is it a problem, bonio?

would you be ok about someone coming to your door ten times a day and asking if their kid can use your loo?

That's what happens in my mum's shop ( small grocers) She is brilliant and always says yes because she is a sweetie and a softy but you would not believe the mess people make and allow their kids to make. they regularly pee all over her floor , leave taps running, stuff whole rolls of paper down the loo.

Would you be happy for this to happen in your house?

Oh, be quiet, bonio.

The vast majority of parents wouldn't allow their children to make a mess in a toilet without cleaning it up.

It's more likely the adults making the mess.

ten times a day someone asks?
and what proportion of those people have a destructive and ungrateful bent?

has no bearing on me, i'm v tidy and not a vandal, so i'd still ask on dd's behalf. i'd be no trouble to a small grocer and would certainly make a point of buying something from them as a thank you whether i needed it or not.

.. and before you get rattled, I'm a cleaner, and I've cleaned more shitty bogs than you've had hot dinners.

All from adults.

Buy potatoes, have a piddle.
Fair exchange, no robbery.

Well, that's only if the situation arose though aitch, because ordinarily, you'd just pee in a nappy wouldnt you?

But Aitch that's not the point.

I have no doubt you would be a respectful user of the loo, as would me and my incredibly well trained children. But a shop owner could not tell that from looking at you.

Many are not. I don't know what proportion (about a third perhaps?)are messy.

You did not answer whether you would be happy for a steady stream of strangers to ask to use your home loo.

What is the difference between your home loo and the one in my mum's shop?

ONLY ON A MOTORWAY VERGE, VVV. you make it sound like a bad thing.

Mines cleaner, bonio

your mum invites people to come into her shop between the hours of 9-6 or whatever, it's an open house. in fact, she wants me in there, her real house with the no doubt sparkling bathrooms is reliant on my buying stuff from her.

i hadn't addresssed your question because it was so obviously ill-founded.

Calm down Desiderata.
No need to be rude.

so it's the adults that make a mess?

How does that make any difference to the situation or letting strangers use YOUR loo that happens to be in your shop?

Why should a small shop owner let people use thier loo as if it were a public loo?

You clearly have no experience of the reality of this so perhaps you should be the one to be quiet

No it's not an open house.
It's a shop