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AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 12:49

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Met call up armoured cars as London braces for a day of protests

In a package of measures billed as the toughest ever, 4,000 officers will be deployed to deal with the Tommy Robinson-led Unite the Kingdom rally and a pro-Palestine gathering to mark Nakba Day.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

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Womanofcustard · 14/05/2026 18:14

Terror attacks in the UK on nnocent Jewish people. Exactly why do pro pal need to march past Jewish areas?

For the same reason the Ulster Loyalists try to march through Catholic areas in N Ireland. To intimidate.

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:29

Womanofcustard · 14/05/2026 18:14

Terror attacks in the UK on nnocent Jewish people. Exactly why do pro pal need to march past Jewish areas?

For the same reason the Ulster Loyalists try to march through Catholic areas in N Ireland. To intimidate.

What is a pro pal

LandLaser · 14/05/2026 18:37

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:08

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-869219

“The filings also map out a phased rollout: three to six influencers onboarded at a time, each expected to post roughly 25 to 30 pieces of content per month across Instagram, TikTok, and other platforms. Later phases anticipated further expansion, including “matching with Israeli content partners” and developing partnerships with US-based marketing agencies.”

So what do you think about the claim from the youtube channel you posted that Israeli citizens are worse than Nazis?

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:39

LandLaser · 14/05/2026 18:37

So what do you think about the claim from the youtube channel you posted that Israeli citizens are worse than Nazis?

I didn’t post that. Go back and watch the video.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 18:42

itchychinn · 14/05/2026 18:10

Pro Palestine marches are about trying to stop a Genocide . Tommy Robinson marches are to spread hate. They are not the same.

Globalise the Intifada - is that about stopping deaths or encouraging more fighting?

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 18:43

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:29

What is a pro pal

Yawn - the same thing it was last time you asked on a different thread.

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:46

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 18:43

Yawn - the same thing it was last time you asked on a different thread.

“Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself.”

Albus Dumbledore.

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 18:49

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:46

“Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself.”

Albus Dumbledore.

Bless - most people quote from successful characters from history, you quote from Harry Potter.

nomas · 14/05/2026 18:52

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 18:49

Bless - most people quote from successful characters from history, you quote from Harry Potter.

It’s the best selling book series in history, I’m
not embarrassed quoting from it . Smile

MsJinks · 14/05/2026 18:58

I will comment that the Palestine March was set in commemoration or Nakba 78.

Tommy then thought it a great idea to set a Unite the kingdom March on the same day.

As Tommy is out then SUTR and other groups are counter protesting that.

Imo Tommy really shouldn’t have picked this date.

HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 19:32

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 17:01

Are you implying there are influencers on MN?

The type that post via annonymous usernames and don't show their faces, or their bodies? Hmm ...

Laughable isn't it.

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 19:37

SunnyAfternoonToday · 14/05/2026 17:28

Many Jews? I doubt that. No Jewish person I know has ever joined a pro Palestinian march but Jews are not a homogeneous group and are free to protest whoever they like. The costs of the pro Palestinian marches in London are met by taxpayers. The organisers (mainly the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign) do not pay anything towards the policing of them. Since 7 October 2023 and up to three months ago Bob Blackman MP reported to the House of Commons that the sum had reached £86 million!

Re football costs - the clubs pay for policing within the grounds (during the matches) and immediate adjacent private grounds, but not surrounding streets or transport hubs. This cost to the UK taxpayer quoted in the House of Commons three months ago July 2025) was actually higher than you quote, at £70 million p.a.

Wow! So not only does it not help the people of Gaza, it costs us the taxpayer.

"Since 7 October 2023 and up to three months ago Bob Blackman MP reported to the House of Commons that the sum had reached £86 million!"

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Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 20:08

HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 19:32

Laughable isn't it.

It is.

Cheeks4970 · 14/05/2026 20:12

I've been on every anti-genocide March. I am marching against the slaughter of other mothers' children and families.

@SunnyAfternoonToday there is a whole Jewish bloc on every March. Are you going to try to say that they are not real Jews because they are anti-genocide and don't suit your narrative? Stephan Kapos, a child survivor of the Holocaust, speaks at some of the Marches.

None of the Marches go past synagogues or Jewish areas. Some of the Marches wanted to start from the BBC building (because of their terrible biased reporting) and I think there is a synagogue in a street nearby so the media tried to twist it to say it was a deliberate provocation, which was totally incorrect.

@HeyHoHenryHippy incredible to see such inflammatory statements from you comparing these Marches to Tommy Robinson - I wonder who you are behind your name?

Ilikesundays · 14/05/2026 20:25

BigYellowBus · 14/05/2026 12:52

Wanting the Israeli army to stop killing children doesn't make you antisemitic. It's a view share by many Jews

There’s a war going on in Gaza between Israel and the terrorist organisation, Hamas. The Israeli army does not aim to kill children. Hamas quite deliberately puts women and children in the firing line, using them as “human shields” and when some of them are injured or killed they use it as propaganda to vilify Israel. A very large proportion of those killed in Gaza are Hamas terrorists. Have a thought for the innocent women and children raped, tortured, kidnapped and murdered by Hamas and their supporters on and after october7 2023.

nomas · 14/05/2026 20:47

Ilikesundays · 14/05/2026 20:25

There’s a war going on in Gaza between Israel and the terrorist organisation, Hamas. The Israeli army does not aim to kill children. Hamas quite deliberately puts women and children in the firing line, using them as “human shields” and when some of them are injured or killed they use it as propaganda to vilify Israel. A very large proportion of those killed in Gaza are Hamas terrorists. Have a thought for the innocent women and children raped, tortured, kidnapped and murdered by Hamas and their supporters on and after october7 2023.

That’s not true. IDF soldiers have admitted that they do kill civilians arbitrarily. The majority that have been killed in Gaza are civilians, not Hamas.

news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

NotAnotherScarf · 14/05/2026 21:09

mumofoneAloneandwell · 14/05/2026 15:05

I mean - the people marching for Palestine are doing so to stop innocent people being killed by the Israeli government? The conditions there are heartbreaking for anyone to see, and have been for a long time.

Tommy Robinsons lot are wanting to stop multiculturalism in the UK

Yabu, they arent remotely the same.

I have to correct you. Robinson is in favour of multiculturalism. He's against what he views as an Islamisation of the UK and the way that, as he sees it, Muslims get away with things.

JHound · 14/05/2026 21:34

YABU.

JHound · 14/05/2026 21:35

NotAnotherScarf · 14/05/2026 21:09

I have to correct you. Robinson is in favour of multiculturalism. He's against what he views as an Islamisation of the UK and the way that, as he sees it, Muslims get away with things.

He really is not.

Sartre · 14/05/2026 22:01

But they’re not protesting against Jews, they’re protesting against Zionism. People need to stop conflating Judaism and Zionism, it’s dangerous and precisely the reason antisemitism is on the rise. Jews are not all zionists. Zionist’s are responsible for the genocide in Gaza, not Jews as a whole. I say this as a half Jew. This rhetoric needs to end. Flying a Palestinian flag and calling out genocide doesn’t equal antisemitism, plenty of Jews attend those marches.

Sartre · 14/05/2026 22:02

NotAnotherScarf · 14/05/2026 21:09

I have to correct you. Robinson is in favour of multiculturalism. He's against what he views as an Islamisation of the UK and the way that, as he sees it, Muslims get away with things.

Teehee. Those pesky Muslims getting away with “things”.

nomas · 14/05/2026 22:16

NotAnotherScarf · 14/05/2026 21:09

I have to correct you. Robinson is in favour of multiculturalism. He's against what he views as an Islamisation of the UK and the way that, as he sees it, Muslims get away with things.

Stephen Yaxley is a grifter, he’s the one who has got away with his grift, because his supporters turn a blind eye to his crimes over two decades. His convictions include assault, financial fraud, documentation offences, and multiple counts of contempt of court.

2005 – Assault (Actual Bodily Harm): Jailed for 12 months for assaulting an off-duty police officer who intervened in a domestic dispute.
2011 – Public Order Offence: Received a 12-month community rehabilitation order for leading a 100-strong football brawl in Luton in 2010.
2011 – Assault: Convicted of headbutting a member of the English Defence League (EDL).
2013 – False Passport Use: Jailed for 10 months for trying to enter the United States using another person's passport (his friend's), having previously been refused entry.
2014 – Mortgage Fraud: Sentenced to 18 months in prison for conspiracy to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from Halifax and Abbey banks.
2017–2019 – Contempt of Court: Jailed in 2019 for 9 months for violating reporting restrictions by filming individuals involved in a criminal trial (grooming gang case) at Leeds Crown Court, which threatened to cause a retrial.
2021 – Stalking: Given a 5-year stalking protection order after harassing a journalist and her partner.
2021–2025 – Libel and Injunction Breaches: Lost a defamation case brought by a Syrian refugee in 2021, ordered to pay £100,000 in damages. He was jailed again in October 2024 for 18 months for breaching this injunction by repeating false allegations, released in May 2025.
2024/2025 – As of May 2025, he faces charges of harassment causing fear of violence against two men, with a trial set for 2026. In August 2025, he was arrested for a separate alleged assault at a train station.
Financial: : Declared bankruptcy in March 2021,

He now begs for money from his supporters whilst living in Spain.

Clavinova · 14/05/2026 22:18

Cheeks4970 · 14/05/2026 20:12

I've been on every anti-genocide March. I am marching against the slaughter of other mothers' children and families.

@SunnyAfternoonToday there is a whole Jewish bloc on every March. Are you going to try to say that they are not real Jews because they are anti-genocide and don't suit your narrative? Stephan Kapos, a child survivor of the Holocaust, speaks at some of the Marches.

None of the Marches go past synagogues or Jewish areas. Some of the Marches wanted to start from the BBC building (because of their terrible biased reporting) and I think there is a synagogue in a street nearby so the media tried to twist it to say it was a deliberate provocation, which was totally incorrect.

@HeyHoHenryHippy incredible to see such inflammatory statements from you comparing these Marches to Tommy Robinson - I wonder who you are behind your name?

Stephan Kapos, a child survivor of the Holocaust, speaks at some of the Marches

Stephen Kapos claimed that there was 'nothing he recognised as antisemitism within the Labour Party' under Jeremy Corbyn. He also told Middle East Eye that he 'always felt Hungarian rather than Jewish' but rediscovered/reconnected with his Jewish heritage to [counter accusations against Corbyn and co]. One of the men standing next to Kapos on the march regularly says "Israel has no right to exist", 'Israel is an agent of the West' and looks forward to 'the downfall of the West' [that's us by the way].

Leorag · 14/05/2026 22:25

Ilikesundays · 14/05/2026 20:25

There’s a war going on in Gaza between Israel and the terrorist organisation, Hamas. The Israeli army does not aim to kill children. Hamas quite deliberately puts women and children in the firing line, using them as “human shields” and when some of them are injured or killed they use it as propaganda to vilify Israel. A very large proportion of those killed in Gaza are Hamas terrorists. Have a thought for the innocent women and children raped, tortured, kidnapped and murdered by Hamas and their supporters on and after october7 2023.

And the Palestinian women in Gaza right now being made to exchange sex for food for their children with Hamas terrorists.

Protest for freedom of Gaza from Hamas.

noblegiraffe · 14/05/2026 22:25

Sartre · 14/05/2026 22:01

But they’re not protesting against Jews, they’re protesting against Zionism. People need to stop conflating Judaism and Zionism, it’s dangerous and precisely the reason antisemitism is on the rise. Jews are not all zionists. Zionist’s are responsible for the genocide in Gaza, not Jews as a whole. I say this as a half Jew. This rhetoric needs to end. Flying a Palestinian flag and calling out genocide doesn’t equal antisemitism, plenty of Jews attend those marches.

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What do you think 'Zionist' means?

Because it doesn't mean 'supports Israel's actions in Gaza'.

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