AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

[HeyHoHenryHippy]

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Because the Israeli government is a government and therefore is somewhat susceptible to diplomatic pressure whilst Hamas are a bunch of terrorists who dont much care what the British government say? I mean, Im pretty sure Europe doesnt supply arms or share intelligence with Hamas but do correct me if Im mistaken.

Oh not just instagram and facebook I suspect…..

DS was a reporter the last time these groups 'met' in London. He's white. His colleague was female black British. They moved between the two groups interviewing people. Obviously all anecdotes, but TR he said was an excellent public speaker. Laurence and the others on that side not so much but he was really surprised by TR. He and black colleague were both treated fine by that 'side'. That crowd shouted abuse such as Starmer is a wanker, and other football type chants. They pretty much did what the police asked.
The pro Palestine group although much fewer in number were really badly behaved. Knocked his female colleague to the ground. Chanted stuff that was downright illegal, called for particular buildings to be set alight etc. In the end they were largely kettled by the police and were absolutely furious about it.
Obviously it was all highly charged and a big waste of public money, but I know which group treated them and the police the best.

I have been in London when there was a Tommy Robinson march and a Pro Palestine one.

The Palestine one was overwhelming. Literally 1000's of people banging, shouting and tbh there were few police visible but in the side streets there were tons of police in vans.

Its the cost of all of this. Pro Palestine has been taken over our country. I saw two Green recently appointed councillors unfurling the Palestine flag when they won. What on earth!!

I bet you would

They are the 'governance' of Gaza though. They run things, they put out all the figures and statements for their part of Palestine. They were elected by Gazans to run Gaza, although they haven't had any elections in recent years they were elected by a majority of older Gazans.

Some campaigned about Gaza. Strange to campaigned about issues that cannot be sorted at local level or at mayorial level.

I only linked the influencer video, no idea what videos you’re referring to.

The difference is everyone on a Tommy Robinson march is fuelled by prejudice and hatred

On a supporting Gaze it is not everyone, but its too many

@Dweetfidilove I don't know what that pic is meant to mean, but I do not feel good about it.

Trevor Phillips on the last UTK march was interesting

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5eatVNqOpis&pp=ygUedHJldm9yIHBoaWxsaXBzIHRvbW15IHJvYmluc29u&ra=m

I feel like mainstream media didn't want to cover it last time so I was interested to hear what he said.

@HRTQueen "the difference is everyone on a Tommy Robinson march is fuelled by prejudice and hatred"

everyone? And who do you think they hate?

😂conspiracy is rife. You'll be sugesting that MN posters are paid next.

Are we not allowed to have an opinion about the marches in the UK when we live in the UK about the costs, the choas and the fear they cause. I've walked by one and the shouting and banging some are really intimidating and I'm not Jewish, they literally scream at people as they pass.

Why not cut the hate filled chants and carry out a peaceful static protest or one away from Jewish areas.

The marches don't appear to get that UK Jewish people aren't the Israeli government. It's bizarre how they appear to think banging on here will help.

Yeah whatever. The ME have been fighting forever. They both have a point of view.

Yeah, they’re never marching under banners calling for peace and co-existence are they?

I think the static marches are actually a good idea. We'd have to call him something else though. And maybe only for recurrent ones. I left London three years ago and it was out of hand long before then, the things that go on.

Another video from the same channel. It's just interesting where you get your information.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/may/13/met-warns-hate-speech-unite-the-kingdom-palestine-marches

The police are looking for hate filled people from both marches. They say they will hold the organisers of each of the marches responsible for the behaviour of their marchers.

Just cut the hate speech whether PP or TR, both need to look at the behaviour of some of their marchers.

Iran does, and I suspect other countries e.g. Turkey do. Admittedly they aren't in Europe but there is no doubt that Hamas is bankrolled and helped in numerous ways to continue their terrorism.

The way Gaza is run and managed is a direct result of Israeli government policy. Unsurprisingly democracy (which allows voters to change their minds every few years) does not florish there. Gaza is not a country, it's a large open-air prison and killing ground.

some will hate all immigrants, some will hate Muslims, Jews, black people, brown people, some will hate those brown people who do not fully assimilate whoever has annoyed them on that particular day

I'm sure they have many other reasons too

What is the big deal about controlling hate speech on either protest?

What's the big deal about having static protests instead of walking past synagogues and Jewish areas.

If it's just about protest and not hatred they why not do that?

As I aid, I don't watch ANYTHING on Youtube (even though DP is constantly forwarding me stuff!) so no, I won't be watching this.

I have been at a Stop The Hate protest (about 100 of us) when a Pro Palestinian march was taking place in central London. The police kettled us in (for our safety!!!) The marchers have never been kettled in.

And that's your proof - one American influencer on Youtube. I give up.

Thank you @HeyHoHenryHippy