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AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 12:49

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Met call up armoured cars as London braces for a day of protests

In a package of measures billed as the toughest ever, 4,000 officers will be deployed to deal with the Tommy Robinson-led Unite the Kingdom rally and a pro-Palestine gathering to mark Nakba Day.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

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MsJinks · 16/05/2026 05:59

Cheeks4970 · 15/05/2026 18:05

@PurpleThistle7 no you're wrong, 100s of Jewish people join these Marches. I will take a photo tomorrow and prove it to you. Have you been on any of the Marches or you're just another person who thinks they know what happens on these Marches?

If you don’t go, you can’t know and won’t know - or listen even I’ve found, don’t worry about this Cheeks.

However, I’m just getting ready to go with SUTR as part of the counter protest to Tommeh - he shouldn’t have chosen this day for sure - but solidarity sister.

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 06:50

It’s time the pro-Palestine marches were made static.
The was is over, they lost.
There was no genocide, and there is currently a ceasefire.

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 07:33

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 06:50

It’s time the pro-Palestine marches were made static.
The was is over, they lost.
There was no genocide, and there is currently a ceasefire.

A ceasefire?? The war is over???! Palestinians are being killed every single day in Gaza stop talking bollocks! More and more organisations are calling what has happened there a genocide. You sound pretty ignorant of the situation.

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 07:36

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 07:33

A ceasefire?? The war is over???! Palestinians are being killed every single day in Gaza stop talking bollocks! More and more organisations are calling what has happened there a genocide. You sound pretty ignorant of the situation.

You are welcome to your opinion.
How have the marches changed ANYTHING for people in Gaza?
They have done sweet FA
Now they are simply antisemitism.

And, there is no genocide.

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 07:59

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 07:36

You are welcome to your opinion.
How have the marches changed ANYTHING for people in Gaza?
They have done sweet FA
Now they are simply antisemitism.

And, there is no genocide.

There are two UNited Nations reports on the genocide which you should look up. Written by people who are far more qualified than you or I to decide what constitutes a genocide.

“Anatomy of a genocide” 2024
”Gaza genocide: A collective crime” 2025

Have you ever been called to examine the evidence for a potential genocide? I suspect not.

The matches are to raise awareness of the ongoing situation, and to attempt to pressure our Government to take action. Perhaps you are too young to remember the anti apartheid marches?

Boomer55 · 16/05/2026 08:03

HeyHoHenryHippy · 14/05/2026 12:49

Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Both should be banned. I’m tired of the aggro and costs involved with these pointless protests, where 2 sides can just yell at, and threaten, each other. 🤬

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 08:24

The United Nations are hardly unbiased now are they? UNWRA famously colluded with Hamas.

There is no genocide, no matter how hard the narrative is pushed.

There IS a ceasefire in effect. It’s a shame Hamas are not respecting it.

No one is changing opinions on Gaza.

The marches need to stop.

Cheeks4970 · 16/05/2026 08:29

Wearenotborg · 15/05/2026 22:15

But how do you know the people marching are Jewish? Will they be wearing any symbols or big signs?

They hold a huge banner saying "The Jewish Bloc for Palestine". They hold signs saying things like "Jews against Genocide".

They wear their kippah and carry signs identifying themselves and their opposition to the genocide and are an important part of the Marches.

That might blow your mind. If you look online, you will see many photos of this.

Twiglets1 · 16/05/2026 08:54

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 07:59

There are two UNited Nations reports on the genocide which you should look up. Written by people who are far more qualified than you or I to decide what constitutes a genocide.

“Anatomy of a genocide” 2024
”Gaza genocide: A collective crime” 2025

Have you ever been called to examine the evidence for a potential genocide? I suspect not.

The matches are to raise awareness of the ongoing situation, and to attempt to pressure our Government to take action. Perhaps you are too young to remember the anti apartheid marches?

But as you know, the UN as an organisation have said that they are not qualified to say whether it’s genocide or not as this can only be determined by an international court.

The court case filed by South Africa is ongoing and unlikely to reach a decision for several years due to the complexity of the case.

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 09:09

Cheeks4970 · 16/05/2026 08:29

They hold a huge banner saying "The Jewish Bloc for Palestine". They hold signs saying things like "Jews against Genocide".

They wear their kippah and carry signs identifying themselves and their opposition to the genocide and are an important part of the Marches.

That might blow your mind. If you look online, you will see many photos of this.

I suspect a lot of people think the Jewish people on the Palestine support marches just aren’t “Jewish enough” or “truly Jewish” or some such bollocks 🙄 because the idea of Jewish people recognising that Israel has behaved atrociously is incomprehensible to some.

SpryTaupeTurtle · 16/05/2026 09:16

BigYellowBus · 14/05/2026 12:52

Wanting the Israeli army to stop killing children doesn't make you antisemitic. It's a view share by many Jews

This. With bells on

noblegiraffe · 16/05/2026 09:16

There's a huge difference between thinking that Israel has behaved atrociously, and calling for its destruction which seems to be a feature of the marches.

SpryTaupeTurtle · 16/05/2026 09:18

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/05/2026 06:50

It’s time the pro-Palestine marches were made static.
The was is over, they lost.
There was no genocide, and there is currently a ceasefire.

There was no genocide. How can you actually type that.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:22

Cheeks4970 · 15/05/2026 18:29

Israel claims Zaher is a member of Hamas just like they do most Palestinians, even babies.

Now you are the one spouting rubbish.

BeAlertDog · 16/05/2026 09:24

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 09:09

I suspect a lot of people think the Jewish people on the Palestine support marches just aren’t “Jewish enough” or “truly Jewish” or some such bollocks 🙄 because the idea of Jewish people recognising that Israel has behaved atrociously is incomprehensible to some.

Any comment to make about the man saying he will behead every Jew?

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:25

Cheeks4970 · 15/05/2026 19:17

There was no protest on 7 Oct?

The protest that was taking place was against the proscription of Palestine Action.

Why has there been no mention of the Muslim man who was stabbed on the same day?

There was a protest on 8 October 2023 supporting Hamas' actions.

inamarina · 16/05/2026 09:27

SpryTaupeTurtle · 16/05/2026 09:16

This. With bells on

If only the world was that black and white. What about Hamas? They’re still refusing to disarm.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:27

CoolPombear · 15/05/2026 20:17

Facial recognition technology to be used at the Unite rally. Any sign of it being employed at the Pro pal marches?

Apparently not. But as so many of them cover their faces ...

BeAlertDog · 16/05/2026 09:30

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:27

Apparently not. But as so many of them cover their faces ...

The man saying he will behead every Jew had his face well and truly on show. I'm sure if the police wanted to they could locate him. Hmm

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:30

mumumental · 15/05/2026 23:46

”It doesn't matter what Israel does, but people can be found to justify the crimes or to swear blind that they are not taking place anyway.” Michael Rosen.

He should be saying that about Hamas.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:31

SpryTaupeTurtle · 16/05/2026 09:18

There was no genocide. How can you actually type that.

Because it's true.

BeAlertDog · 16/05/2026 09:33

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:31

Because it's true.

I never know why the ICJ is held up as conclusive evidence of a genocide when the jury is still out.

SunnyAfternoonToday · 16/05/2026 09:34

BeAlertDog · 16/05/2026 09:30

The man saying he will behead every Jew had his face well and truly on show. I'm sure if the police wanted to they could locate him. Hmm

Yes it's interesting that he hasn't yet been arrested. Two tier policing again?

BeAlertDog · 16/05/2026 09:36

MsJinks · 16/05/2026 05:59

If you don’t go, you can’t know and won’t know - or listen even I’ve found, don’t worry about this Cheeks.

However, I’m just getting ready to go with SUTR as part of the counter protest to Tommeh - he shouldn’t have chosen this day for sure - but solidarity sister.

Why shouldn't he choose this day? His protests are always countered.

PurpleThistle7 · 16/05/2026 09:41

MissyB1 · 16/05/2026 09:09

I suspect a lot of people think the Jewish people on the Palestine support marches just aren’t “Jewish enough” or “truly Jewish” or some such bollocks 🙄 because the idea of Jewish people recognising that Israel has behaved atrociously is incomprehensible to some.

I think they’re Jewish. That doesn’t mean they represent me. Telling me I should feel something because another Jewish person feels that is a bizarre take. Just like I said above, I don’t stand with the actions of all white people or all women or all people living in Edinburgh either. I only represent myself. I have no doubt there are Jewish people on the marches. They are welcome to do what their conscience tells them to do.

I don’t have to agree with them because we are the same religion. Any more than any Muslim person needs to agree with the Taliban. You’re making a very strange argument here.

I think the white people in the KKK are wrong. I think the Scottish people marching in far right protests are wrong. And I think the Jewish people marching in the Palestinian marches are wrong. I don’t have to agree with any of that to justify my opinion or my existence.

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