AIBU to compare pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests? Both involve hatred antisemitism or racism and both end up in trouble. Two cheeks of the same ass as I've heard on here before!

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Pro-Palestine and Tommy Robinson-led protests this Saturday with yet again thousands of officers having to spend the day controling these protests. Surely there is a better way. Static protest or once a month for Gaza? I think Tommy's lot isn't weekly like the Gaza lot.

Antisemitism is a major problem and general racism also up. Armoured vehicles are needed now with the first time in 15 years to use them. Terror incidents have risen yet what have either of these 'protests' achieved apart from further divisions!

Stick them in separate areas and tell them to stand with their various placards and keep them there. They ave their virtue signalling and hate fuelled moments but stop annoying the rest of us and keep the costs down - it's costing millions of pounds.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15816041/Met-Police-call-armoured-cars-London-braces-day-pro-Palestine-Tommy-Robinson-led-protests.html

Revealed: the Hamas chief who lives in a London council house

Well, I’m more inclined to believe an official statement than a random anonymous poster on MN, sure.

You've not addressed anything I've said, have you?

What do you think about rushing to organise a protest on October 7th? Protesting the evening of the Manchester synagogue murder? Deliberately taking up policing resources that the police specifically said they needed to keep Jews safe?

It's just basic fact. If you want to support fundamentalist terrorism, be open and clear about it - as clearly it is correct and justified in your view. Why try to argue the sky is green? You're not fighting a righteous battle against an oppressor, you're defending a violent terrorist regime - that's the reality, and it's not new, it's what we have dealt with for generations, so the least you can do is own it.

Why can't you accept that I don't like seeing people slaughtered and I want to go out and protest against it?

I'm horrified and sickened by what I have seen and I've been following what's going on in Palestine for a very long time.

How many people do you think they should kill before you would think it's enough?

Do you know, it's perfectly possible to go out and call for peace without calling for death and destruction?

This 💯, they don't care about the impact on others. They don't care if people avoid the areas they march through, in fear of what they might face. They don't care what their placards say. They don't care to call out Hamas to free Palestine from terrorists. They don't care it costs millions to police. None of that matters to the marchers. That's whether TR or PP marches.

There was no protest on 7 Oct?

The protest that was taking place was against the proscription of Palestine Action.

Why has there been no mention of the Muslim man who was stabbed on the same day?

Do you also protest against Hamas who slaughtered thousands, and after the ceasefire was declared, they also started slaughtering their own citizens, indeed, anyone they thought might be against them. Protest that too? Sadly, thousands are slaughtered in conflicts, protest them?

God you haven't even read what I've posted. They rushed to get in their application for a protest while the October 7th massacre was ongoing.

Do you think the protests against the proscription of Palestine Action aren't a subset of the Palestine marches? Completely different people?

And I didn't mention the Muslim man who was stabbed because I wasn't talking about the stabbing, but the murder of a Jewish man outside a synagogue in Manchester. Do you not even remember that one? But 'what about the Muslim' seems to be the absolute go-to knee-jerk response, so it's interesting to note that.

Exactly.

That's rich!

Can you imagine the horror in the UK and it would obviously be justified.
If youngsters went to for example,Leeds,reading,Cream fields festivals.
And didn't come home alive.

Facial recognition technology to be used at the Unite rally. Any sign of it being employed at the Pro pal marches?

It should be eeky peekys.

Of course I have seen the marches. They marched round and round my workplace for months. It’s horrific. Masked up hate filled screaming people chanting hopes for my destruction.

Jewish people can go to whatever they want but it doesn’t make ‘me’ feel any safer. It doesn’t make my daughter feel safer at school when she’s surrounded by children chanting free Palestine in her face. It doesn’t make my son feel safer when he’s told by a classmate he hopes someone nukes Israel so they can get rid of the Jews and it doesn’t make me feel better when I’m comforting my kids crying on the couch after yet another frightening day in the world of Jewish childhood in the UK in 2026.

The two marches tomorrow both fill me with fear and dread and worry for the future.

No need to address individual points when one can simply shout ‘genocide' to stifle any discussion.
Doesn’t even matter that when Palestine Solidarity campaigners rushed to organise a march on October 7th the ones committing actual genocidal acts were Hamas.

Difficult when so many cover their faces to avoid being seen.

"Pro-Palestinian marchers often cover their faces to protect their identities from opposing groups, avoid being doxxed online, and guard against unwanted repercussions from their employers.In the UK, the Metropolitan Police frequently deploy temporary Section 60AA powers during these demonstrations. These legal measures explicitly grant officers the authority to demand the removal of masks and face coverings if they believe there is a risk of violence or disorder. Protesters who fail to comply with these police orders face potential arrest and criminal charges."

You keep saying that but how would a protest against Hamas even work? They're terrorists funded by Iran. I dont think the British government holds any sway either with them or their sponsors so what would such a protest achieve? How would they even know?

The British government holds no sway with Israel either, so what's your point?

Im not sure that's entirely true. We are strategic allies, we suppy them with arms, wesare intelligence, there is at least some sort of diplomatic relationship there.

But how do you know the people marching are Jewish? Will they be wearing any symbols or big signs?

I find it interesting that Spain is massively on the side of Palestine, stopped arms sales to Israel, has condemned the genocide etc and yet they still see large and sometimes violent pro-Palestinian protests on their streets. Level of actual government support for Israel seems rather irrelevant to the number of people on the streets.

I often feel that a lot of the anti-government rhetoric around Palestine is borrowed from the US who are obviously far more supportive and have far more sway over Israel than other countries.

”It doesn't matter what Israel does, but people can be found to justify the crimes or to swear blind that they are not taking place anyway.” Michael Rosen.