Giving Reform voters what they voted for

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Taking the “giving people want they vote for” principle to its logical next step, if Labour or the Greens form the next government, should they:

• Pass legislation to confirm the Human Rights Act no longer applies to Reform voters and/or anyone living in Reform constituencies.
• Withdraw the right of Reform voters and/or anyone living in a Reform constituency to use the NHS unless they have private health insurance to cover the cost or can pay privately.

Just putting this out there.

AIBU?

Tbh I don't think it would be a bad idea to give their voters a taste of their own medicine. I've seen demographic breakdowns of Reform voters and it's terrifying. The people most likely to be fucked over by Reform and their policies, other than immigrants, are the people most likely to vote for them - absolute fools who I no longer feel any compassion for. Part of me hopes they get screwed by Reform. My only concern, is that they won't be bright enough to see that they brought it upon themselves, and turn even further to the right.

Labour perform terribly in the local elections so Labour MPs kick him out. They aren't going to change the bus slogan for every council ward it visits.

This isn't meant to be preachy, I'm genuinely curious. It could cost so much money if you needed private healthcare in an emergency (say for example a car crash/medical helicopter/emergency resus). You're potentially talking £100,000s. Meanwhile, relying on private healthcare is already pretty much already not feasible if you've got many chronic conditions and need regular treatments (e.g. MRIs) as it won't cover preexisting conditions. I'm not disputing there's failings in the NHS, but could people really afford it?

They are not going to vote Starmer out in any local election. Your comment underlines my concerns

Also, if you opt out of the NHS what next? Do non-drivers get to opt out of paying for road maintenance? Do the childfree not pay for schools or for child benefit? If your house hasn't burnt down do you not pay for the fire service? I think it's a slippery slope, personally.

It’s absolutely horrific. If you look up Cody dahler on IG he details many more similar comments from reform candidates. It’s absolutely shocking and they seem to get away with it. Meanwhile the media are running a smear campaign on ZP I would be surprised if they claim next that he didn’t put a lid back on a pen or something !!

WTAF!!!!!

A Reform supporter was arrested at an organised Reform rally for repeatedly doing the Nazi salute next to a Reform UK flag a few days ago too.

Reform are truly shockingly and openly racist.

I agree with her and I’m not on any medication and never go to the doctors. We need a European model

I’d rather keep the NHS but overhaul it cos if we do like America we’re screwed cos many won’t be able to afford it or go bankrupt

as for reform they can get in the bin along with restore.

Dan Thomas Reform leader in Wales has said something similar. If Plaid voters aren't bothered about immigration, they can have the immigrants! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74deww41lyo

Yes this sounds good OP. How can we get this?

I have it through work. Pre existing conditions are covered.

Do you think pre-existing conditions aren’t covered in Europe? Do you think those in Europe can’t get cancer care? Because the UK cancer care is at the rock bottom of league tables compared with the rest of Europe and their partly insurance backed systems.

Yes because allowing the candidates in your party to spout antisemitic rhetoric is comparable to forgetting to put a lid back on a pen isn’t it?

Maybe in your world it is but in mine one is a lot more toxic than the other!

I think the voters you are referring to are those that came over in the 1960s /70s from India, Pakistan and the Caribbean and worked hard to get a life here. These are the sort of people who - rightly or wrongly - vote reform as they think the new immigrants haven’t the same work ethic and that no more people can be supported.

How do you think it works in say Germany, a country with an insurance backed system? Are there people not being treated there? No. Their healthcare system is a hell of a lot better than the abomination we have here.

ZP is not antisemitic. He is anti the actions of the Israeli government

Not on the slightest bit bigoted.

I don't agree with stooping to Reform's level.

Though if I had to, I would start with no foreign travel for those in Reform voting areas.

Jesus, I'm slow to catch on!

Ridiculous

In the current climate its doubtful the Greens OR Labour will win the next election. The Greens want open borders so let them deal with illegals in their constituencies.
Also the party is rife with anti semitism which OP has conveniently forgotten to mention

Absolutely correct. They are very indignant about the newest immigrants, I find it very sad that they are labelled as stupid racists and their views don't get the respect they deserve.

He is anti the actions of the Israeli government which is fair enough.

What isn't fair enough is for him to tolerate racists in his party which is doing by allowing some to make antisemitic comments without getting suspended.

So you'd like to die slowly with an untreated broken ankle, burst appendix, heart attack?

A 2025 YouGov survey found:

• 69% of ethnic minority respondents viewed Reform as a racist party