Is it correct that the golders green attacker had earlier attacked a Muslim man?

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If so is it mental health and not anti semitism? That would be much better for the Jewish community, I think, not to have had an anti semitic attack. However I'm not sure of the facts. But if true it should be advertised to enhance feeling of safety in the community.

I recognise you from your thread about your workplace in Manchester not recognising the GG attack. What do those who know know?

I second this.

Me too. Really well put @MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack 👏

So you make an unnecessary comment to point out my - in your very humble opinion - unnecessary comment.

Great. That’s a nice game played slowly all day 🤔🙄🤔

Well said.

What explains the attack k on the Muslim person then? Clearly that is not anti semitic

If a man stabbed his heterosexual flatmate, left the scene, travelled to a gay bar ignoring everyone else he encountered on the way, and proceeded to stab gay men in the bar, would you think it incorrect to say he'd sought out gay men and committed a homophobic hate crime, because he'd also stabbed his straight flatmate?

Do you reckon the victims and gay community would feel 'better' about being targeted because a straight person got stabbed first?

I do wonder whether people who attended the rallies and rather than simply protesting the actions of the Israeli government joined in with the anti semitic chants that are about eradicating Jewish people are having an attack of conscience about the febrile atmosphere they contributed to. Denial is a strong motivator. I'm appalled at some of the things that were normalised, inciting hatred against this community. It is completely unacceptable and I hope that the police are supported to step in to stop it and arrest the participants.

I think I would feel that it was also a mental health issue, if someone attacked their straight partner, then some homosexual people. Homophobia would not feel like a sufficient explanation

It's sounding less of an innocent question every time you post 🤔

So a known antisemite and religious extremist, after stabbing his friend, randomly travels a considerable distance to a place well-known for its Jewish community and the people he then coincidentally stabs "because of his mental health" just happen by total random chance to be visibility Jewish, the subject of his fixed hatred and a tiny proportion of the population of London. His anti-Jewish hatred played no role.

Hell of a coincidence, OP.

Come on @Mumsnet. This thread is so offensive. False naivety doesn’t excuse it.

Really well said, Ida.

@MNHQ please review this thread. The OP is being extremely offensive, despite the many patient and thoughtful comments and explanations from others on the thread.

Seconded. To 'extremely offensive', I would add 'deliberately obtuse'. She appears not to have considered that there are Jewish Mumsnetters, some of whom may have read and/or contributed to this thread.

I am very offended at this request. My thread is perfectly polite and reasonable.

I am not falsely naive. I am being very straightforward and clear about the questions I am asking.

MNHQ don't care, goady threads like this one get clicks. The previous binfire of a thread on this topic filled up despite OP not coming back after posting a few inflammatory comments.

I think you should read this: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-k-rabbi-learned-golders-162051828.html. Maybe then you’ll see why your comments are so upsetting for posters here - particularly Jewish posters.

Why can’t you understand, then, that the attacker was mentally ill and antisemitic?

This is by far quite the most offensive post to the Jewish community I have ever read on this site.

The fact that the person who wrote this can't understand why is testamentary to the problem the UK is facing right now.

This person is bending over backwards to excuse a Muslim man attempting to murder two Jews - for being Jewish.

Words fail me.

The guy left a psychiatric unit a few months prior. If it turns out (as I suspect) that he’s a paranoid schizophrenic can we still classify this a a targeted antisemitic act or the actions of a sick man?

I have not in any way sought to excuse this attack. I just asked if a person who attacked both Muslim and Jewish people might have a mental illness as the predominant explanation for his violent behavior.

We can and should classify it as both.

Αnd I am politely asking if you're a child whose parents aren't supervising their internet use, a rabid antisemite, intellectually impaired, or deliberately trolling a minority community for kicks. Or all of these things.

Politely.

We have explained on this thread - and the previous thread it was suggested you read - that the attacker was antisemitic and also mentally ill. Is that clear now? Finally?