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oopsBSoD · 30/04/2026 13:17

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:06

And that statement is based on what evidence?

Multiple of their candidates have made comments defending or supporting terrorism, including their deputy leader.

worriedmumofgirls · 30/04/2026 13:17

The police didn’t go far enough.

These creatures need removing from our shores. Nobody should be frightened to walk down the street without being attacked.

After prison he must stripped of his citizenship and be sent back to his birthplace.

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 13:17

LittleJustice · 30/04/2026 12:31

I did watch that video and thought what on earth are they kicking him like that for.

So I don't know whether he's evil or not but they shouldn't have kicked him no matter what he did. Once they had overpowered him.

The bloke wouldn't let go of the knife, they had to hand cuff him but couldn't because he was holding the knife. Do you really think a man who has stabbed 2 people already, people totally unknown to him, wouldn't try to stab the police officers trying to restrain and arrest him?Sorry not sorry, I think he was lucky he only got kicked.

OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 13:17

stargirl27 · 30/04/2026 13:12

Sorry, but could you point me to the person who has justified/excused the perpetrator's act? People have raised concerns about the officers' treatment of the suspect. I haven't seen anyone excusing violence against Jews.

Don't apologise.
No, not on this thread, I was making a general point about the rise in antisemitism and the mealy mouthed excuses for it.

AtIusvue · 30/04/2026 13:18

People need to come from behind their sofas and get a grip. This isn’t was a kicking to the head looks like.Thats something you do not want to see. Something you also don’t want to see, is someone being stabbed.

A kick to the head in order to have the terrorist release the weapon he used to stab multiple people and the weapon that was an immediate threat to life a limb of the officers, is proportionate.

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:18

Poaal · 30/04/2026 13:15

They had already tasered him you can hear “taser” and see it in the footage being deployed. Yet he still did not drop the weapon or follow police commands

How do you drop a weapon when your muscles are spasming and you are not in in control of them? What do you think a taser is?

PlumPuddingandGravy · 30/04/2026 13:18

Lifeomars · 30/04/2026 13:14

Taser him, if they had tasers of course. Kick him on other parts of the body and not the head, restrain him as they have no doubt been trained to do. I would prefer him not to be seriously injured so that he is fit to stand trial asap.

I don’t want to break this to you but if they’d have been armed police officers, he’d have been shot dead. The notion that the police’s role in that kind of situation is to have one eye on the trial is laughable; their number one priority is public safety, by disarming a violent offender.

guiops · 30/04/2026 13:18

Pearly5 · 30/04/2026 13:16

YANBU he’s evil. Laughable for anyone watching that and thinking they would react any differently when they are unarmed and a monster is trying to stab them. Those officers were nothing but brave.
Already knew Zac was evil though. His own family members said they were probably leave the country if he was ever PM, what does that tell you.

he’s an unelectable laughing stock. Anyone who supports the Greens after this needs an intervention.

MummyWillow1 · 30/04/2026 13:19

You are an idiot for regurgitating anything published by The S^n and thinking anyone would take you seriously.

You are also an idiot for not realising that any police brutality is dangerous for all, recent events in the USA should show you that. When the police start taking justice into their own hands it never ends well.

That doesn’t mean anyone is condoning the actions of the perpetrator.

However, your responses indicate you have actually only posted as rage bait.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 13:19

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:18

How do you drop a weapon when your muscles are spasming and you are not in in control of them? What do you think a taser is?

By being kicked in the head.
HTH.

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 13:19

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:16

You are so far removed from your original post. Too biased in who had done what and is from what group to be able to effectively discuss policing practices.

As someone said early on in this thread, treating anyone in this manner normalises it in a way that is dangerous for everyone.

Treating who in what way? Someone with a knife who is stabbing random people on the street?

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:19

oopsBSoD · 30/04/2026 13:17

Multiple of their candidates have made comments defending or supporting terrorism, including their deputy leader.

I believe you have misunderstood the evidence I was asking for

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 13:19

MummyWillow1 · 30/04/2026 13:19

You are an idiot for regurgitating anything published by The S^n and thinking anyone would take you seriously.

You are also an idiot for not realising that any police brutality is dangerous for all, recent events in the USA should show you that. When the police start taking justice into their own hands it never ends well.

That doesn’t mean anyone is condoning the actions of the perpetrator.

However, your responses indicate you have actually only posted as rage bait.

Police brutality 😂

no

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 13:19

PlumPuddingandGravy · 30/04/2026 13:08

Racist?!!

I think I’ve heard it all now. We really are fucked.

Out of interest, at what point during this incident should the police have diagnosed he had mental health issues, in order to properly assess whether a kick to the head was appropriate?

Well you dont kick anyone youre arresting in the head? Or you dont kick anyone in the head full stop.

He was on the ground. I think its clear the motivation of the police officers there, but i will not detract attention from the real victims who are the brave Jewish men just going about their lives. May they have swift recoveries and know that British people, black/white/Asian condemn this mans actions.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 13:20

MummyWillow1 · 30/04/2026 13:19

You are an idiot for regurgitating anything published by The S^n and thinking anyone would take you seriously.

You are also an idiot for not realising that any police brutality is dangerous for all, recent events in the USA should show you that. When the police start taking justice into their own hands it never ends well.

That doesn’t mean anyone is condoning the actions of the perpetrator.

However, your responses indicate you have actually only posted as rage bait.

It was a newspaper report that directly linked ZP's social media account.

It wouldn't have mattered if it was in The Guardian.

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Upstartled · 30/04/2026 13:20

They are trained to use reasonable force relative to the threat in the situation. They asked him to drop the knife, they tasered him, asked him to give up the knife again as they held him to the ground, which he would not give up, kicked him twice and got the knife.

It's a good job, well done. Any other country this cunt would be shot dead.

PlumPuddingandGravy · 30/04/2026 13:20

glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:18

How do you drop a weapon when your muscles are spasming and you are not in in control of them? What do you think a taser is?

Muscles don’t always contract in the way you’re describing and in any event, what do you suggest? They go over and undertake a considered assessment of whether he’s not dropping it because of the taser? Complete clueless.

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 13:21

mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/04/2026 13:19

Well you dont kick anyone youre arresting in the head? Or you dont kick anyone in the head full stop.

He was on the ground. I think its clear the motivation of the police officers there, but i will not detract attention from the real victims who are the brave Jewish men just going about their lives. May they have swift recoveries and know that British people, black/white/Asian condemn this mans actions.

No you are wrong.

The gentle and purposeful kicking of this terrorist's dumb head was done so he'd release the knife.

All in all, job well done.

OnePeachCrow · 30/04/2026 13:21

Blimms · 30/04/2026 12:33

It’s bad because normalising kicking a suspect in the head is dangerous for us all.

Unlike someone running around stabbing people?

JudgeJ · 30/04/2026 13:22

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 12:32

The poor little terrorist lamb

80 years ago some MNers would have been claiming that lovely Adolf H was just misunderstood! Excuse finding is an Olympic sport. Personally if someone has randomly stabbed people on the street then I couldn't give a damn what happens to them.

dnadiscoveryquery · 30/04/2026 13:22

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 13:07

Research, talking to people, but I will never convince you.

Op you keep refusing to give answers by saying things like, you wouldn’t listen or you wouldn’t believe me. Starting to think you’re just being goady. Why not use complete sentences and verbalise thoughts properly is you’re going to start a thread.

Let me guess what your answer will now be……🤔

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 13:22

OnePeachCrow · 30/04/2026 13:21

Unlike someone running around stabbing people?

Don't rise to it, probably the person who blamed prison officers for the death of Ian Huntley.

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glitterpaperchain · 30/04/2026 13:22

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 13:19

Treating who in what way? Someone with a knife who is stabbing random people on the street?

I suggest you RTFT. I find you often insert yourself in my conversations with others and ask disingenuous questions, strange

DrinkPupKitDrink · 30/04/2026 13:22

OnePeachCrow · 30/04/2026 13:21

Unlike someone running around stabbing people?

No that's jut someone with 'mental health' going round expressing himself and living his best life. T's his human right.

MummyWillow1 · 30/04/2026 13:23

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 12:59

There's a lot of ignorance from people who don't/ won't acknowledge that the murderous terrorist would not let go of the knife and the unarmed policeman only kicked him until he gave up the knife.

Colour me cynical....but surely all these people are capable of reading beyond a headline?

People don’t want to click a link to The S^n. So, yes, people will be assuming things here.

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