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AIBU to say the Green Party has an antisemitism problem?

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Aislyn · 27/04/2026 15:55

I said this in a conversation and got an interesting reaction.

I’m basing it on repeated examples of Green Party candidates and members sharing conspiracy theories about zionists, downplaying antisemitism, or even justifying attacks on Israeli civilians. That goes way beyond normal criticism of Israel.

I’m not saying every supporter is antisemitic, but there does seem to be a pattern with some of their people, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call that out. Notably, many of the people who have come out with these views are still party members.

A friend said I was smearing the party and that this is just pro-Palestinian views being misrepresented.

Am I being unreasonable to call it an antisemitism problem?

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Eskarina1 · Yesterday 09:04

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 27/04/2026 16:35

Don’t forget their Islamist arm.

The sad thing is, we need a party for the environment but the Green Party clearly have far bigger fish to fry. As PP mentioned on the other thread - ZP wouldn’t survive very long in Palestine - he would be beaten or thrown from a tall building. But he will fight their corner against Israel. Something’s gone very wrong in his reasoning.

This is why it's not being called out overtly, because on average it takes 3 concerned about anti semitism posts for "Islamists" to be mentioned.

I immediately stop listening to anyone who makes up global religion based conspiracies that are out to get the world.

Stop using faux concern about Jewish people to justify your Islamaphobia.

Muesleigh · Yesterday 10:04

Eskarina1 · Yesterday 09:04

This is why it's not being called out overtly, because on average it takes 3 concerned about anti semitism posts for "Islamists" to be mentioned.

I immediately stop listening to anyone who makes up global religion based conspiracies that are out to get the world.

Stop using faux concern about Jewish people to justify your Islamaphobia.

Are you saying Islamism is not a thing? Or that's it's not present in the Green party? Unclear.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 10:09

mugglewump · Yesterday 08:54

YABU. Pro-Palestine does not mean anti-semitic. Condemnation of Netenyahu's government does not mean anti-zionist.

Genuine question, what does ‘pro-Palestine’ mean to you?

This seems to mean quite a range of things to different people.

Aislyn · Yesterday 10:23

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Yesterday 09:03

The sad fact is, there has always been an undercurrent of antisemitism in the U.K., but until recently - especially since WW2 and Hitler’s ‘final solution’, - it has not been the ‘done’ thing to express it.
Now, because of Gaza, it has - and I hate to put it like this - become ‘fashionable’.

Sadly, I agree with you.

The Anti-Semitism is now coming from the left. These are people who ironically claim to be against racism (but this only applies to certain types of racism).

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ArtAngel · Yesterday 10:35

raisinglittlepeople12 · 27/04/2026 18:27

It’s madness that being anti genocide is construed as anti semitism.

Being against the Isreali government's policies or the IDF's actions is not anti-semitism.

But this is trotted out every time someone crosses the line into what is actually anti-semitism.

An opinion on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is not an excuse for incising hate against Jews.

The meme published by Saiqa Ali , Green candidate for Streatham St Leonards in Lambeth crosses that line. It is about JEWS. It includes a stereotypes cartoon of a Jewish person. 'We; as an 'we went through the holocaust' is not about the Israeli Gvt or the IDF - they did not exist during the holocaust - it is about Jewish people.

Green candidate apologises for sharing 'harmful' social media posts about Jewish people | The Standard

And as for the mealy mouthed non-apology.... 'for any offence caused'...which does not accept actually being offensive or that her actions were anti-semitic...disgraceful pathetic behaviour.

Green candidate apologises for 'harmful' social media posts about Jewish people

Saiqa Ali, who is a Lambeth Green Party candidate for Streatham St Leonard’s ward, apologised ‘for any offence or distress caused’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/green-party-lambeth-elections-instagram-jewish-b1279654.html

ForWittyTealOP · Yesterday 10:40

ArtAngel · Yesterday 10:35

Being against the Isreali government's policies or the IDF's actions is not anti-semitism.

But this is trotted out every time someone crosses the line into what is actually anti-semitism.

An opinion on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is not an excuse for incising hate against Jews.

The meme published by Saiqa Ali , Green candidate for Streatham St Leonards in Lambeth crosses that line. It is about JEWS. It includes a stereotypes cartoon of a Jewish person. 'We; as an 'we went through the holocaust' is not about the Israeli Gvt or the IDF - they did not exist during the holocaust - it is about Jewish people.

Green candidate apologises for sharing 'harmful' social media posts about Jewish people | The Standard

And as for the mealy mouthed non-apology.... 'for any offence caused'...which does not accept actually being offensive or that her actions were anti-semitic...disgraceful pathetic behaviour.

It's such doublethink. People make openly racist statements and then claim to reject racism "in all its forms". I don't understand why they bother. Own your vile beliefs!

FernandoSor · Yesterday 10:53

ForWittyTealOP · Yesterday 08:39

Who do you think was living in the region "first"?

Doesn't matter who was living in a country "first" - it matters who was living there when another country decided it was someone else's homeland.

FernandoSor · Yesterday 10:58

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 27/04/2026 21:46

How do you feel about Hamas wanting to eradicate Israel and all Jews? What should be done about them?

They're a terrorist organisation and should be treated as such. We've dealt with terrorist organisations in the UK - it didn't involve dropping white phosphorous on schoolchildren in West Belfast or sending armoured bulldozers into Tower Hamlets.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:14

Eskarina1 · Yesterday 09:04

This is why it's not being called out overtly, because on average it takes 3 concerned about anti semitism posts for "Islamists" to be mentioned.

I immediately stop listening to anyone who makes up global religion based conspiracies that are out to get the world.

Stop using faux concern about Jewish people to justify your Islamaphobia.

Stop using faux concern about Jewish people to justify your Islamaphobia.

I was actually referring to the fact that ZP is gay - he would not be safe in Palestine. It should be deemed as ‘Islamophobic’ to highlight their treatment of gay people.

I am emphatically not ‘anti Muslim’. I am anti the persecution of Jews, gay people, non believers of all persuasions etc. That does not make me Islamophobic and your comment is a perfect example of the spurious accusations used to shut down conversation on things that are happening.

Can you explain your thinking to reach your conclusions on this? To start, here are mine:

Hamas is the governing body in Gaza, elected in 2007.

Hamas are a proscribed Islamic terrorist organisation.

Hamas wish to destroy Israel and have been working with other Islamic groups to eradicate all Jews in the world (one aspect is the Ring of Fire).

The Green Party have deputy leader who has been supportive of Hamas on his social media.

The GP deputy leader is a very devout Muslim and has strong ‘pro-Palestine’/anti Israel views.

I am not aware of him proposing any peaceful solution to the Israel /Hamas situation.

He has been active in recruiting Green Party members who appear to be only interested in prioritising issues around Palestine and against Israel and as pointed out above some have have actually deliberately harmed the environment.

These new GP members campaign against Israel but have no proposal to deal with the Hamas terrorist government.

According to some disgruntled Muslim men, they misled Muslim voters on their LGBTQ policies by omitting them from the Urdu (and other foreign languages) campaign material.

There are allegations by an international independent monitor that there was coercive voting within the Muslim community to gain power for the Green Party.

Is it ‘Islamophobia’ to say that I don’t want Hamas to destroy Israel and all Jews?

What is the peaceful solution?

I immediately stop listening to anyone who makes up global religion based conspiracies that are out to get the world.

Can you specify what ‘conspiracies’ you mean? Are organisations like Hamas and the IRGC spreading conspiracy theories? That doesn’t sound like something they would do.

ForWittyTealOP · Yesterday 11:19

FernandoSor · Yesterday 10:53

Doesn't matter who was living in a country "first" - it matters who was living there when another country decided it was someone else's homeland.

I'm surprised you think it's so straightforward. If it really is as simple as you say, why hasn't it all been resolved by now?

Ignorance of history is not a solid basis for an opinion.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:21

FernandoSor · Yesterday 10:58

They're a terrorist organisation and should be treated as such. We've dealt with terrorist organisations in the UK - it didn't involve dropping white phosphorous on schoolchildren in West Belfast or sending armoured bulldozers into Tower Hamlets.

You didn’t really answer my questions though.

How do you propose we ‘treat ‘ the Hamas government of the Palestinian territory of Gaza?

Do you mean remove them?

What do you think about their attempts in conjunction with other countries to destroy Israel and eradicate all Jews?

Aislyn · Yesterday 12:21

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 11:21

You didn’t really answer my questions though.

How do you propose we ‘treat ‘ the Hamas government of the Palestinian territory of Gaza?

Do you mean remove them?

What do you think about their attempts in conjunction with other countries to destroy Israel and eradicate all Jews?

They can't answer because there is no possible reasonable answer that they can give.

People are so entrenched in their tribalism that they will bleat 'but Israel', without critically appraising the facts, or even doing any cursory research.

I challenge anyone to read the links posted in this thread and to explain why they think the Green Party is not racist towards Jews.

Those who have claimed it is legitimate criticism of Israel have clearly not done any reading, as this is not what is being referenced. People are quite rightly concerned about the deeply bigoted and racist views that mainstream within the Green party currently.

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Aislyn · Yesterday 12:56

The slur that the Islamists used to describe gay people was particularly telling and disturbing, in case anyone doubted that gays are not welcome in a society where they have power.

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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · Yesterday 13:26

A fascinating article - thank you for sharing. The IRL demonstration of the clash of cultures and what can happen in these situations, the needs and priorities of others get ignored.

It seems that Hamtramck is insulated from greater difficulties by the fact that it is part of the US and has many enshrined legal protections.

Iran is a more extreme example where those constitutional protections were removed. Many of the left wing supporters that helped the regime win power were executed.

From the article above:
Muslim residents packing city hall erupted in cheers after the council’s unanimous vote, and on Hamtramck’s social media pages, the taunting has been relentless: “F*gless City”, read one post, emphasized with emojis of a bicep flexing.
In a tense monologue before the vote, Councilmember Mohammed Hassan shouted his justification at LGBTQ+ supporters: “I’m working for the people, what the majority of the people like.”
While Hamtramck is still viewed as a bastion of multiculturalism, the difficulties of local governance and living among neighbors with different cultural values quickly set in following the 2015 election. Some leaders and residents are now bitter political enemies engaged in a series of often vicious battles over the city’s direction, and the Pride flag controversy represents a crescendo in tension.
There’s a sense of betrayal,” said the former Hamtramck mayor Karen Majewski, who is Polish American. “We supported you when you were threatened, and now our rights are threatened, and you’re the one doing the threatening.”
For about a century, Polish and Ukrainian Catholics dominated politics in Hamtramck, a city of 28,000 surrounded by Detroit. By 2013, largely Muslim Bangladeshi and Yemeni immigrants supplanted the white eastern Europeans, though the city remains home to significant populations of those groups, as well as African Americans, whites and Bosnian and Albanian Americans. According to the 2020 census some 30% to 38% of Hamtramck’s residents are of Yemeni descent, and 24% are of Asian descent, largely Bangladeshi.

After several years of diversity on the council, some see irony in an all-male, Muslim elected government that does not reflect the city’s makeup.
The resolution, which also prohibits the display of flags with ethnic, racist and political views, comes at a time when LGBTQ+ rights are under assault worldwide, and other US cities have passed similar bans with the vast majority driven by often white politically conservative Americans.

On one level, the discord that has flared between Muslim and non-Muslim populations in recent years has its root in a culture clash that is unique to a partly liberal small US city now under conservative Muslim leadership, residents say. Last year, the council approved an ordinance allowing backyard animal sacrifices, shocking some non-Muslim residents even though animal sacrifice is protected under the first amendment in the US as a form of religious expression.

When Michigan legalized marijuana, it gave municipalities a late 2020 deadline to enact a prohibition of dispensaries. Hamtramck council missed the deadline and a dispensary opened, drawing outrage from conservative Muslims who demanded city leadership shut it down. That ignited counterprotests from many liberal residents, and the council only relented when it became clear it had no legal recourse.

At other times, the issues are not unique to Hamtramck. In the realm of local politics, personal fights among neighbors, warring factions and dirty politics are a common part of the democratic process across the US.
“I don’t know that we’re really all that different from other cities in most ways,” Majewski said.
However, race and religion add more fraught layers to Hamtramck’s issues. Islamophobia exists here, and some Muslims say they saw bigotry in local voter fraud investigations, and in LGBTQ+ supporters not respecting their religion.
But Majewski said the majority is now disrespecting the minority. She noted that a white, Christian-majority city council in 2005 created an ordinance to allow the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast from the city’s mosques five times daily. It did so over objections of white city residents, and Majewski said she didn’t see the same reciprocity with roles reversed.

yebba2026 · Yesterday 13:31

JohnThomasOnAFloralBedspread · 27/04/2026 15:59

Why did you need to start yet another thread about this?

This with fucking bells on. Bloody hell.

Dodorogers · Yesterday 13:33

Aislyn · 27/04/2026 16:21

The shocking thing to me is that it isn't called out. They are still allowed to rub as a party despite the racism within. There is no enquiry, no calls for change. I can't see other forms of racism being so tolerated.

Would anyone who things I am being unreasonable like to explain why?

Polanski is Jewish? They are massively calling out Israel because of the genocide and the illegal war

Dodorogers · Yesterday 13:33

Aislyn · Yesterday 12:56

The slur that the Islamists used to describe gay people was particularly telling and disturbing, in case anyone doubted that gays are not welcome in a society where they have power.

You think a party led by a gay man is going to ban pride?

Dodorogers · Yesterday 13:39

Aislyn · Yesterday 12:21

They can't answer because there is no possible reasonable answer that they can give.

People are so entrenched in their tribalism that they will bleat 'but Israel', without critically appraising the facts, or even doing any cursory research.

I challenge anyone to read the links posted in this thread and to explain why they think the Green Party is not racist towards Jews.

Those who have claimed it is legitimate criticism of Israel have clearly not done any reading, as this is not what is being referenced. People are quite rightly concerned about the deeply bigoted and racist views that mainstream within the Green party currently.

www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/28/israels-direction-poses-existential-threat-to-judaism-uks-leading-progressive-rabbis-warn

EasternStandard · Yesterday 13:45

yebba2026 · Yesterday 13:31

This with fucking bells on. Bloody hell.

You can hide threads you don’t want to see. Others are happy to comment because it’s interesting to them.

ForWittyTealOP · Yesterday 13:48

What did you take from that article? It would be interesting to hear your perspective.

yebba2026 · Yesterday 14:20

EasternStandard · Yesterday 13:45

You can hide threads you don’t want to see. Others are happy to comment because it’s interesting to them.

You can also ignore my comments.

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EasternStandard · Yesterday 14:23

yebba2026 · Yesterday 14:20

You can also ignore my comments.

Yep it’s still easy to hide threads.

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It's offensive to talk about Zionists like that, just so you know. It makes your post sound racist.