Incident at school - come and give me your thoughts.

[Newnamez]

DD is 12 and in yr7 (first yr of secondary).
On the last day of term before Easter she came home and told us that during the first lesson that day 2 'older girls' (she thinks yr9) came to the class (which had a stand in teacher that day) and asked for her by name and said she was needed at the school office by the Head teacher. She went with them. The girls walked ahead of her whispering.
By chance a TA that DD likes and chats to came out of a room and saw the three of them and asked the girls where they were taking DD. The older girls said 'the office' and the TA said i'll take over and they ran away. The TA shared with DD that one of the girls is her (TAs) cousin and said she was a ''little shit'' !! TA took DD to the office and no one had sent for her. TA took DD back to class. That's the bare bones of it. That is literally all i know.

Now, i hear about this at 6 that evening from DD and get more horrified the more i think about it. I emailed a head of year level teacher that evening. I heard nothing all easter holiday which is fine, but i heard nothing from anyone last night either. (yesterday 1st day back)

Ive told DD not to leave class unless an adult has come for her from now on.

Im going to ring the school this morning to ask to speak to someone in person about this.

Am i wrong or is this quite worrying?! How did the girls know my DD s name and where she'd be? Where were they taking her? Why were they wandering round the school? How are they going to stop this happening again?

What would you do/say?

TIA

Try re reading the OP. The 2 older girls went into the class and asked for her by name, saying she needed to go to the office

EDIT criss posted with your next post

@Newnamez you are doing the right thing by following it up with the school; that would not sit well with me at all and it would make me worry what the other girls' intention with my DD was...

Well it just adds to the whole picture for me.

Pupils wandering about & taking others out of class.

Staff who refer to pupils as "little shits" to another pupil.

Sounds an awful place.

It not being the most important thing doesn't mean it's acceptable.

Yeah you're missing something. They asked for her by name. They knew her name. They asked the teacher. Read it again.

Not necessarily. At DC school every child used to spend a half day helping out the office and running messages atc

I don't see how it's busybodying to be concerned that your child was taken from class under false pretences by two other kids who lied to staff and could've done anything with the younger girl if the TA hadn't intervened. It may be a silly prank, but it still needs looking into. Not sure why you think it's a non-event to brush off.

As a teacher in a secondary (with way too many pupils wandering!) I think it was probably a stupid prank. They’ll have heard your DDs name somewhere and that’ll be why they went for her and not anyone else. Once they got to the office they’ll probably have run and left her to go in, with the office staff having no idea why she was there, hence embarrassment.

I’d absolutely follow up with the school to ensure they’re aware and the girls are dealt with, but I doubt there was the level of malevolence that other posters are suggesting.

I have had a message from her form tutor! Not the head of year/teaching lead.

I emailed DDs form teacher at the same time as starting this thread because I needed to inform her that DD has been given an inhaler by our GP over the holidays and she'll have it at school. While i was at it i gave a brief outline about what had happened to DD at the end of term and that i had emailed teaching lead and was awaiting a response. ( thought they might pass each other in the staff room and it might help promote a response)

So she said it's unacceptable (that that happened) and the ''girls have been spoken to''

keep an eye on the situation, ensure good communication between self and daughter, don't bother staff with this.

What are you on about?

this girl was lured away by two older girls, pretending she needed to go to the office.

what do you imagine their intentions were?

Don’t bother the very people who have a duty of care towards OPs daughter?! Okay then..

It isn’t. That poster is obviously one of those edgelords, with an empty life, who pop up on threads to spread their bullshit ‘wisdom’.

Now they need to revisit their safeguarding practices, keep Supply Teachers in the loop and tighten up toilet passes etc.

That’s not good enough!! They’ve clearly planned some sort of nefarious incident, and executed it too! If they’ve got the balls to take a child out of their classroom under the safety of an adult, then you can bet ‘being spoken to’ will be like water off a ducks back!

it may be a good idea to look at the school safeguarding policy and highlight areas that these girls has breached, put it in writing to the head of safeguarding as well as the Head and tutor/ ridiculous head of year
ive had issues with my child being bullied and they try to down play it, so use their polices and demand, professionally, that they actually do something

I absolutely would not accept this as a resolution. In fact, I would write back and say "Thank you for your response, I'm sure you agree that given the potential serious nature, a simple 'speaking to' isn't quite good enough. I look forward to hearing from Miss X and Miss Y as soon as possible so it can be dealt with properly."

That would not be enough for me, at all.

So it has been dealt with.
Honestly what do people want?! They have told the mum the girls have been spoken to. They won't be able to go into full details of the girls backgrounds or what the exact consequences are other than to say it's been dealt with.
This is why working in schools is tough.

One of my DCs was assaulted by some Y9s who'd been able to plan the ambush when let out of class by a supply teacher. As a result of this, that particular supply teacher is no longer used by the school. There is also now CCTV in the stairwell where the assault happened.

You are right to follow this up and I would expect the school to tighten up some of its practices around supply teachers and the fetching of students by others.

Don't bother staff??

say what?

it's no longer 1950 & silly japes.

The form tutor sounds a bit nervous to me like they know the school has stuffed up . But as others have said ., let her know that you are not dropping this and are waiting for others to do as you have requested.

You need urgent answers to this. Your DD sounds as though she's being targeted for bullying or a planned attack for some reason. It's potentially very serious and I'd be wanting to know exactly what has been done about punishing the girls already and what is going to be done to safeguard your DD in future.

Yes that’s quite nefarious. Makes you question what they were going to do to her. I’m glad the TA helped however I’d hope she’d have reported it as a safeguarding issue.

I am not one for going up to a school unless absolutely necessary but this sounds like it could have been serious and I would be doing the same as the OP. Don’t know why people are criticising this one.

There is no mention of school procedures being looked at, safeguarding of all pupils in school, how they ensure this doesn't happen again.

It very much hasn't been dealt with!